New israeli amendment allows Israel to deport most Palestinians in the West Bank

[Kuya]

The issue is that amendments made to a 1969 law are so ambiguous that they do not define exactly how groups living in the West Bank or Gaza are to be treated. In effect it allows the IDF to arrest or deport anyone not having official permits (in order to have these permits, they need permission from the Israeli government), however the vast majority of Palestinians do not have these permtis and have never been required to have these permits. The changes give the IDF freedom to interpret the law as they see fit and jail or deport whom they see fit. Link and some quotes:

A new Israeli military policy could result in the eviction of tens of thousands of Palestinians from the occupied West Bank, or face criminal charges, Israel's Haaretz newspaper says.

Amendments to the existing 1969 order on preventing infiltration could apply to Palestinians living in the West Bank without official ID cards issued by Israel, the daily said on Sunday.

The order's language came ambiguous and far from defining liabilities and rights of each group of residents in the West Bank.

Haaretz said: "The order's language is both general and ambiguous, stipulating that the term infiltrator will also be applied to Palestinian residents of Jerusalem, citizens of countries with which Israel has friendly ties (such as the United States) and Israeli citizens, whether Arab or Jewish.

"All this depends on the judgement of Israel defence forces commanders in the field."

Hamoked, an Israeli rights group focused on freedom of movement, called on the military to rescind the order.

"The orders do not define what Israel considers a valid permit. The vast majority of people now living in the West Bank have never been required to hold any sort of permit to be present therein," it said in a statement.

The changes are to go in effect next tuesday.

[Kuya]

Also, it should be noted, despite the fact that the Israeli military can deport most Palestinians if they do not have permits, the Israeli government has not made it public to the Palestinians that they have made these changes:

http://www.hamoked.org.il/news_main_en.asp?id=904

On Tuesday, April 13 2010, the Order regarding Prevention of Infiltration (Amendment No. 2) and the Order regarding Security Provisions (Amendment No. 112) are to enter into effect. The orders, signed by the previous GOC Central Command, Gadi Shamni but not revealed, are worded so broadly such as theoretically allowing the military to empty the West Bank of almost all its Palestinian inhabitants. Despite the severe ramifications of the orders, the authorities did not publicize their existence among the Palestinian population as required, which raises grave concerns that they intended to pass them secretly without public debate or judicial review.

[Rhinox]

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[Kyo]

How is this relevant to my current needs to watch golf?

[Beckwin]

damn those scientologists, deporting people who don't subscribe to their religious and political beliefs.







edit: oops, I meant Israeli Zionist Jews

[Psilocybin]

JUST GLASS EM BRO

Really though, I don't know why any of the cock waving over there even catches anyone's attention anymore.
Region is most likely never going to be a "peaceful area". Neither side is ever going to concede enough to make it happen and there will be another jew/gaza thread or news story in a week or two bringing up the same tired problems again.

[Kuya]

damn those scientologists, deporting people who don't subscribe to their religious and political beliefs.







edit: oops, I meant Israeli Zionist Jews

I'm pretty sure religion has little to do with beaurocratically designed policies meant for land grab. First of all, note how you use the word zionist, as if it implied a religious stance. I imagine that you had no idea that zionism is a largely atheist ideologically, not to mention that it started out as a purely political (non religious) movement. Most informed people would focus on the concrete and political interests behind actions, rather than the religious rhetoric that is merely used to rile up the religious right-wing.

I realize that you've been on a anti-religion tirade as of late, but do try to stay relevant and not obfuscate important issues with superficial comments.

JUST GLASS EM BRO

Really though, I don't know why any of the cock waving over there even catches anyone's attention anymore.
Region is most likely never going to be a "peaceful area". Neither side is ever going to concede enough to make it happen and there will be another jew/gaza thread or news story in a week or two bringing up the same tired problems again.

The "cock-waving" as you call it, is more accurately described as political moves by a government to annex territory, and this government is supported and aided by your government (assuming you are American), the US government.

So if the same tired problems appear again, do try to keep it in context, that the tax dollars you give your government help maintain this debacle.

If the region is never going to be peaceful, it's not because of some ridiculous attribution to fate, but because of the support the US gives Israel in its continued repression of Palestinians.

[archibaldcrane]

Deport them from the west bank...to where?

[Cochise]

Its Anti-semitic only when the truth hurts....

[Kuya]

By the way, i should have said that Zionism is at its core secular, rather than atheist ideology, which is characterized more by ethno-nationalist principles. Often times one will hear the religious arguments for why Zionism is right, but those are just at the periphery, at its core, Zionism is about ethnicity. The confusion may stem from the fact that people often confuse Judaism with Jews as an ethnic group.

Deport them from the west bank...to where?

Doubt they care.

[Psilocybin]

If the region is never going to be peaceful, it's not because of some ridiculous attribution to fate, but because of the support the US gives Israel in its continued repression of Palestinians.

Nah, I'm from Canada... we kind of support the Jews but not to the extent America does as far as I know.
Really can you blame Israel? It's not like if roles were reversed the Palestines wouldn't be doing the same.
You can't honestly think the region would sort out their problems if America stopped supporting Israel? Maybe you can idk, maybe I'm misunderstanding that quote.

[Beckwin]

I'm pretty sure religion has little to do with beaurocratically designed policies meant for land grab. First of all, note how you use the word zionist, as if it implied a religious stance. I imagine that you had no idea that zionism is a largely atheist ideologically, not to mention that it started out as a purely political (non religious) movement. Most informed people would focus on the concrete and political interests behind actions, rather than the religious rhetoric that is merely used to rile up the religious right-wing.

I realize that you've been on a anti-religion tirade as of late, but do try to stay relevant and not obfuscate important issues with superficial comments.

I realize that zionism started as pretty much purely political. But that doesn't change the fact that the policy aims at religious identity and uses some religious justification to further its agenda.

[Kuya]

Talking about what ifs with little basis is pointless. The facts are that the US gives inmense political and military support to Israel and hence this State is capable of continuing its policies. If we want to go back farther, we can blame England. But at the end of the day the problem is and has always been imperialism. England kept land in the Middle East as trophies and decided to do with it as it pleased without regard for the people living there (i know this is a gross simplification), and the US currently supports Israel so it can advance its interests in the Middle East.

[Priran]

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[Kuya]

I realize that zionism started as pretty much purely political. But that doesn't change the fact that the policy aims at religious identity and uses some religious justification to further its agenda.

The policy aims at a purely Jewish Nation-State. Jew here meaning ethnicity, and not specifically religion (The right of return applies to you regardless of whether you are a theist or atheist Jew).

[archibaldcrane]

Doubt they care.

No but seriously.

[Dimmauk]

Why does Kuya hate Jews?

[Elvis]

Bump

http://mondoweiss.net/2010/04/feelin...-new-york.html

[Eratosthenes]

Deport them from the west bank...to where?

Concentration camps.

[ZarakiKujata]

Concentration camps.

Considering the Nakba was perpetuated using tactics they learned from the Nazis I wouldn't be surprised.