XIV2.0 FAST POLL: Is it too soon to start charging for the game? (READ MORE INSIDE)

[Sonomaa]

My question to you BG, is it too soon to start charging for XIV, what with the system weve seen being completely tableflipped and a new game being launched, should we start paying for what will essentially be a beta of a 2.0 game?

Answer now and quick, and comment and spread the news, you have a few days only until this information is passed to the development leads.

DONT GET YOUR FANBOY ON, ANSWER HONESTLY, DONT BE A FUCKING SHEEP.

[Fallyn]

Yes, it's too early.

[Akiyama]

Way too soon.

[Gokku]

i said yes its to soon , the interface is still far from ok, it shouldn't take me 10 secs to see whats in my look pool or what gear im wearing or whats in my invo etc. that amount of lag just to view your items is unacceptable. jobs seem fairly unbalanced as things are now. the quests system has its goods and bad namely the massive lag when loading the default map , the map not keeping storyline quests "!" on it by default . there is also all the issues with tracking of a player vs the monster in position to each other in battles.

tldr : To much game and menu lag still

[The Blackrose]

Personally, I think it is too soon to be charging at a standard MMO rate. Due to the state of the game, as well as the original outline being that the game would be F2P until it was in a stable development point (and right now, it's obviously not), I would be more receptive to a reduced rate if they absolutely must charge.

If it is strictly F2P vs. P2P, I fall more into the F2P camp.

[Jeryhn]

I think with the way the game has been (for the most part) steadily improving as was promised since the director change, including boss battles that actually seem to require some degree of strategy to win in comparison to how everything was straightforward in FFXI (throw people at it, guys), I'd now support paying monthly.

There are still interface/connection/algorithm problems that I'm concerned about though.

Not to mention, if the game starts getting paid for, we're might actually see more improvements at a faster rate.

[Don Katsu]

I feel like I am trying harder than I normally would to like this game. I really shouldn't have to try to like it, I should like it. I am sure there are others who agree. The game still feels unfinished. The minority would actually consider paying for it either way though. The majority will vote they don't want to pay regardless of the product though. as there are probably people playing FFXI who wouldn't want to pay for that game if they could get away with it.

[Elcura]

It's too soon.

I feel like the game in its current state isn't worth a penny. It's better than a year ago for sure, but that only tells you how bad it used to be. Until the basics are fixed (UI, server, graphics etc), the game should not be charged for.

Content is great, but personally without a solid base all the content becomes frustrating (evident with Ifrit).

[Kurokikaze]

Too soon imo. Charging could probably be considered after 1.22. Not at the moment...

[Hyan]

From a standard MMO standpoint, it's too soon.

This game isn't a standard MMO however, its playerbase is full of freaks and is tiny as fuck. They can start taking subs and we can choose not to pay. Those who do will justify this decision. Those people are SE's niche market up until 2.0.

The rest of us is free to move on.

Basically, "too soon" for what? Are we acting that XIV is one of the big boys now? It has its niche playerbase and for them, it's certainly not "too soon" if they're willing to pay. They've got their CE's worth of playtime at this point already, no matter what the quality of said playtime might be. If they didn't enjoy it in some respect they wouldn't be playing in the first place, its that simple.

Oh, and I'm definitely not going to pay. Does that make me a sheep?

[Naver]

If in a years time things have changed for the better, then I say yes considering all the good changes that Yoshi P has made in the time he has been producer. Hopefully as long as everything gets done that he is planning for, this game might make a dramatic change in the upcoming year until PS3 release.

[Akiyama]

Except FFXIV was meant to be 'one of the big boys', but considering the state of which the game is in.. it's considered less than that since it was a giant flop, lol. If it were some independent MMO with flaws, that's one thing, but it was meant to be SE's 'next big thing', so it's voted upon as such.

[Hyan]

Except FFXIV was meant to be 'one of the big boys'

Yeah, that it is no longer, and has not been in a long time. Everybody is aware of this. The current subscriptions start with that in mind. The game is as niche as it gets and won't change before 2.0, regardless of SE's original intentions.

It's not one of the big boys, and the sub isn't meant for people used to standard MMO quality. It's meant for the people who actually enjoy this game currently, on some level. They have certainly gotten their CE's worth and they are the ones SE is asking for a sub fee.

This poll's options suck ass, by the way. Why even make a poll? Just go in with the results you've already decided on, saves all of us time.

[Kaiyoko]

Too soon, but I'm willing to pay to see Yoshida's plan. I'd say that $6-8 per sub is most they should be doing atm. If at 2.0 they prove themselves w/ their plan, I'd be ready for $12-15 sub.

[TacoTaru]

I chose too soon, but that comes with a caveat. If they're looking for subs as way to fund part of V2.0, I don't necessarily see a problem with that, but I think it's too soon to ask for full priced subs. If they wanted to charge people half price for XIV until 2.0 comes out I'd be fine with that, but for $13/month it's still too soon.

[solracht]

I have a question: wouldn't it make more sense to do a different poll to see who's paying and who isn't?

I think most people are going to agree that yes, it's too soon to start paying for the current game. Those who are willing to pay are most likely doing so because they want 2.0 to happen, not because the current game is ready. They probably know XIV is not ready, but are going to pay anyway.

Unless I'm missing something, what will this poll accomplish? They know their product is not ready (otherwise they wouldn't be making a new game), and I'm sure they expect fans to think the same. They're just hoping the future is enough for some fans to pay.

No way of knowing for sure, but I fear the poll will be skewed by those who are paying and simply want an option that supports their decision. Perhaps we could simply add more voting options? Such as:

-I think the game's ready and I'm willing to pay
-I don't think the game's ready but I'm willing to pay to support 2.0
-I don't think the game's ready and I'm not willing to pay
-I think the game's ready and I'm not willing to pay


EDIT: Not flaming or BRPing or anything, just genuinely curious and trying to help.

[TacoTaru]

He's probably right as I think it's too soon, but I'm still willing to pay to see the outcome half or full priced regardless. Unless course the amount of people willing to pay isn't what this is looking to accomplish.

[Hyan]

Unless I'm missing something, what will this poll accomplish?

People who aren't willing to pay want to keep playing for free (we're talking about tens of thousands of people here at best) while some people who aren't even playing and weren't going to play come in to throw their opinion based on what they would do in this situation.

I don't see why these people think they have any say in the matter. To SE, they're using their service while they get nothing out of it except feedback that few thousand people can provide anyway. SE knows that they will vote with their wallets (lol, what? nobody is paying anything) and they don't care.

[The Blackrose]

Here we go...

[Manako]

I agree from a player standpoint its too soon to charge, but I don't for a moment think they are charging because the game is fixed. Do they need to start seeing some cashflow coming from the venture? Is this a way to cut the number of people who are just going to quit when it becomes subscription based down the road, is it to estimate their final server load?

Regardless, I don't think we can change their business decision so I'm not sure there is a point in telling them "We won't Pay" I think from their perspective starting the pay service directly after releasing the job system is probably their best bet.