Mahou Sensei Negima!

[Eaglestrike]

So who else reads this? I finally gave it a go a bit ago and wow, it's an excellent manga. Tons of fanservice but I daresay it just may be the best manga I've ever read (I read OP/Naruto/Bleach and a few smaller stuff). The fighting mechanics are really interesting and not until recently has it seemed a bit...excessive in random power-ups. But all the characters are amazingly well done and the humor is all over the place, far more often than OP and OP easily trumps Naruto/Bleach in that area. Add in often-naked girls and it's really a great read.

Who else reads it? And how good is the anime? I haven't heard many good things about it and not sure if I want to get it or not, I'd love to see some of these characters with voices.

[Zilong]

I would like negima a lot more if he focused more on the action stuff, since he's a really good artist, and his action sequences are really well done with a lot of interesting stuff. It's like he never have a character use the same move combo twice, and that's really nice.

But, I really can't fucking stand the fanservice sometimes, which somewhat ruin my overall enjoyment of the series. I really facepalmed so fucking hard when Rakan used the scent he and kamo sniffed out of the panties he stole from the girl to locate their position in the sealed world, it's like too tasteless no matter how you'd want to cut it.

Though Evangeline is the single best character in that series, so the recent reappearance of her fake-image-persona from the dark magic scroll has made me really excited in many way, to say the least, wish she'd be unsealed, but as the power level chart Rakan made show, there really wouldn't be much of a series if she's on negi's side fighting shit for him.

The anime is the manga with probably twice the fanservice and half the story.

aka: fucking intolerable for me, but hey, if you like shaft's production, fanservice, and sucking cocks, it might just be for you.

[#686578]

Did I miss something? Is there a new installment?

[Kaylia]

Weird to see a thread pop up 5 sec after I finish reading the latest chapter.

I watched the first season a while ago. Animation was terrrible, and there some some pretty shitty filler, but I ended up loving the show (music was great, and some character were likeable).

A few months ago, I gave the manga a try and loved it. It start out slow (anime was almost better imo), and there is waaaaaay too much fanservice, but I agree it's pretty good in overall. I wouldn't really compare to humor to OP tho...they both cover different field (90% of the joke in negima are related to boobies, even if some character like Rakan can be hilarious).


The setting is what I like the most ni OP. A lot was copied from DragonBall (time chamber, tournament and the fighting scenes), but there is some awesome stuff anyway. The last arc is probably the best so far..it was nice to see it move away from the school.

[Zilong]

I can't wait for Negi vs Rakan fight, that's definitely gonna be epic.

[Kaylia]

I would like negima a lot more if he focused more on the action stuff, since he's a really good artist, and his action sequences are really well done with a lot of interesting stuff. It's like he never have a character use the same move combo twice, and that's really nice.

But, I really can't fucking stand the fanservice sometimes, which somewhat ruin my overall enjoyment of the series. I really facepalmed so fucking hard when Rakan used the scent he and kamo sniffed out of the panties he stole from the girl to locate their position in the sealed world, it's like too tasteless no matter how you'd want to cut it.

Though Evangeline is the single best character in that series, so the recent reappearance of her fake-image-persona from the dark magic scroll has made me really excited in many way, to say the least, wish she'd be unsealed, but as the power level chart Rakan made show, there really wouldn't be much of a series if she's on negi's side fighting shit for him.

The anime is the manga with probably twice the fanservice and half the story.

aka: fucking intolerable for me, but hey, if you like shaft's production, fanservice, and sucking cocks, it might just be for you.

I agree about fanservice...Hell, I usually complain about this as much as you, but I will forgive the author this time since it has one of the best setting/world. There is really some good ideas that you wouldn't expect to see in this kind of manga.

One thing I like about this series is the way they train. Just like any shonen, the characters get stronger much faster than your average person, but they still spend 95% of their time training in a way that is believable in the context. There is usually clever twist to their power increase too.

I'm also glad Evangeline is coming back. She was always in my top 3. Ku Fei, Chisami, Kaede, Evangeline and Yue are probably my favorites characters, but sincerely, Akatmatsu did a good at making me like most of the cast. I wanted to hate them at first, because the harem setup was annoying the hell out of me, but I just can't. I'm actually impressed he is able to manage such a huge cast, because most story that have more than a few characters fail hard. Negi is also pretty good for a main character. I hate kid...but he ended up being one of my favorite shonen hero.

[Kaylia]

The anime is the manga with probably twice the fanservice and half the story.

aka: fucking intolerable for me, but hey, if you like shaft's production, fanservice, and sucking cocks, it might just be for you.

I'm kinda confused with your post...I assume you know there was 2 series?

"Mahou sensei negima" had terrible animation, awesome music, shitty fillers episode, and little fan service compared to the manga. It sticked relatively close to the manga, except for the the fillers and the ending (was still good imo)

"Negima!?" had awesome art, a good intro, way too much fanservice, terrible characters development and story (Makie was the only good one...everyone else was dull). Certain scenes were actually funny, but it's nearly impossible to enjoy it if you already watched the first series or read the manga. Actually, it's impossible to enjoy it for anything other than Shaft's animation and humor.

YouTube - Funny Negima Sukas 2
The scene starting at 1min25 was awesome (especially at 2min15).


There is 2 fanservice OVA (stay away from summer/spring unless you want high quality ecchi stuff), and there is 3 OVA telling the beginning of Ala Alba's arc. Good animation if you care enough after reading the manga..

I can't wait for Negi vs Rakan fight, that's definitely gonna be epic.

Yeah. Can't wait for this one.

How they introduced the fight is probably my favorite joke in the manga (followed by Rakan almost killing himself with Eva's spell).

[Nuriko]

I loved reading this manga, but stopped around 210 or so because I was getting frustrated at not being able to read through a good portion of the story at a time. I got to read all the way up to the end of the Festival arc in 1-2 sittings and then after the England trip started I started to hate waiting for quality releases from AQS since they were getting slower and slower. (Actually, I'm not sure if they still are releasing much so does anyone have any recommendations on a group with good translations or do most people just read whatever's posted on Onemanga?)

Story wise, the most intriguing parts to me have revolved around Asuna and her past. They teased so much stuff about her during the festival and tournament and every time they seemed about to explain something, they change the subject. My other favorite sub-plot is anything and everything related to Eva. By far she is the most entertaining character to me.

I really want to catch up on this, but I feel like it's been so long since I've read it that I don't remember a lot of things and am afraid I'm going to miss a lot of other little things that I remember really enjoying catching when I was first reading through it all.

As far as fanservice goes, personally, after the first 50 chapters or so I became pretty immune to it. So much goes on that I never really felt like it was so excessive that it took anything away from the story or action anymore so I didn't really mind it after awhile.

[Zilong]

I still don't know the name of half the cast, frankly because I just don't care about anyone who isn't Eva, and the rest of the girls I'd remember is either from over exposure (Yue, Nodoka, Asuna, Konoka, Chiu, Chachamaru) or just have fairly good action sequences (Kaede, Ku Fei, Mana, Setsuna)

Like who the fuck actually remembers Zazie?

Yeah, the lore is pretty deep and well developed compared to most series, but none of it really goes into the anime series, barring the Ala Alba OVA (I ought to pick that up once someone sub it) and the anime series milk seiyuu moe and fanservice over any actual plot and storyline.

I'd say this arc is probably best because frankly it's the first time you can actually see the fucking objective and that the storyline is going somewhere.

It's like the storyline just fucks around in campus for no reason the first few arc, then get to kyoto arc where some random fucks decide to be evil for a totally japanese reason (oh noes, the western mages, fucking gaijins!) though it leads to an awesome evangeline finish and evangeline training arc, so I guess that's not too bad, then it goes to festival/chao/tournament arc, which had a pretty vague objective, and fucks around with time a bit too much to be good for the flow of the plot/storyline.

Now they actually have a somewhat clear villain, objective, and a more epic setting than just the goddamn school, so it is a more interesting read. If he'd tone down the fanservice, I'd have less complains, but I guess I'm just an overly simple man with simple taste, just keep drawing Evangeline, and I'll keep reading.

[Eaglestrike]

The thing I like about this is how much they're really utilizing the "there is no 'good and evil' or 'right and wrong" in the storyline. It's intrigued me to hear Fate talk about not wanting to kill people if it's unnecessary. That's not exactly your usual villain speaking and the story and everything about him is far enough that someone of that power that needs to be defeated wouldn't normally think twice about such a thing.

[Zilong]

I'm kinda confused with your post...I assume you know there was 2 series?

"Mahou sensei negima" had terrible animation, awesome music, shitty fillers episode, and little fan service compared to the manga.

"Negima!?" had awesome art, a good intro, way too much fanservice, terrible character development (Makie was the only good one...everyone else was dull). Certain scenes were actually funny, but it's nearly impossible to enjoy it if you already watched the real series. Well, it's impossible to enjoy the characters and story, Shaft's animation make it watchable.

I know they had 2 series, but I didn't really bother with the first one after watching the animation, like what's the fucking point of watching akamatsu's adaptation if it totally rapes his fucking style?

Watched like 3-4 episode of the second series by shaft, and that's what I based my comments on.

[Kaylia]

I loved reading this manga, but stopped around 210 or so because I was getting frustrated at not being able to read through a good portion of the story at a time. I got to read all the way up to the end of the Festival arc in 1-2 sittings and then after the England trip started I started to hate waiting for quality releases from AQS since they were getting slower and slower. (Actually, I'm not sure if they still are releasing much so does anyone have any recommendations on a group with good translations or do most people just read whatever's posted on Onemanga?)

Story wise, the most intriguing parts to me have revolved around Asuna and her past. They teased so much stuff about her during the festival and tournament and every time they seemed about to explain something, they change the subject. My other favorite sub-plot is anything and everything related to Eva. By far she is the most entertaining character to me.

I really want to catch up on this, but I feel like it's been so long since I've read it that I don't remember a lot of things and am afraid I'm going to miss a lot of other little things that I remember really enjoying catching when I was first reading through it all.

As far as fanservice goes, personally, after the first 50 chapters or so I became pretty immune to it. So much goes on that I never really felt like it was so excessive that it took anything away from the story or action anymore so I didn't really mind it after awhile.

They are going to deal with Asuna stuff soon enough. If I had to guess, at the current pace, it's probably going to be within 10 chapters or so (1 or 2 big fight away).

You can probably pick it up at any time. There really isnt any stuff you can forget that matter.

I still don't know the name of half the cast, frankly because I just don't care about anyone who isn't Eva, and the rest of the girls I'd remember is either from over exposure (Yue, Nodoka, Asuna, Konoka, Chiu, Chachamaru) or just have fairly good action sequences (Kaede, Ku Fei, Mana, Setsuna)

Like who the fuck actually remembers Zazie?

Remembering name doesn't mean much for me. I still have to check wikipedia for Toradora, and there is 6 characters. >_> It's obvious I won't be able to remember everyone name when there is 40, but I usually remember their face and what they did.

Zazie is a bad example. She is the weirdest of the bunch, and the only one we haven't seen in action. I'm still curious to see what will happen with her, because she is definitively not normal (see ghosts/monsters, gave some weird pet to Chao..etc).

Spoiler: show

http://www.seaslugteam.com/caps/negima/roster.jpg

7-11-17 are the only one I don't really know. Everyone else did something interesting at least once imo.

Yeah, the lore is pretty deep and well developed compared to most series, but none of it really goes into the anime series, barring the Ala Alba OVA (I ought to pick that up once someone sub it) and the anime series milk seiyuu moe and fanservice over any actual plot and storyline.

I'd say this arc is probably best because frankly it's the first time you can actually see the fucking objective and that the storyline is going somewhere.

Kyoto arc still have many unanswered questions (Fate's presence). It was used as an introduction to the bigger stuff, and I thought Akamatsu did well, because that's when thing got interesting for me.

Festival arc could have been better (I hated the "game", and the alternate future part), but it still had some decent ideas and a lot of character development. It's true we didn't know where it was going, but I don't think it was less enjoyable because of it.

[Imitarate]

Sadly I know at least half the characters by name. Been a fan of this series for a while, but I still can't watch the second anime (the first is pretty retarded, but in a funny way; the second is just retarded, though there are more outside references, the music is better [imo!] and the animation style is decent). If you're reading the manga, be careful not to get tricked into reading Negima Neo. It's Negima?! in manga form. And yes, it is just as terrible.

The festival arc is where the manga started getting good. Ken finally started cutting back on the service and pushing the shounen -- and since he's very character-and-plot-driven, he seems to do a decent shounen story (coughcoughfuckyoukubo) without losing focus of the destination. There's still a very clear goal -- finding his father -- that actually motivates Negi, and he continues to go after that goal. How long Ken can keep stringing us along before Negi finds the man, well, we'll see, but there's enough depth in the setting to continue after finding Nagi, really.

There's a lot of clear evolution in Negi's training -- a lot of genuine in-story theory that goes into power upgrades. It's well-planned out. For the most part, characters have to actually work at their power (at least, past the point of introduction). Yue spends all that time in school learning magic, and she's still not as strong as Negi was when he was introduced (which is unheard of in a fighting manga!), though considerably more flexible.

There is still some danger of excess character flooding, as more and more of the students find out about magic. The non-powered students that followed Ala Alba haven't detracted from the story too much, and in fact served somewhat to introduce us to some of the basic elements of the setting, but we honestly have more than enough secondary characters as it is. Other than Sudden Batshit Author Syndrome, this is my primary concern. The manga has been very good about keeping me interested and being balanced between progression and detail.

[Eaglestrike]

The festival arc is where the manga started getting good. Ken finally started cutting back on the service and pushing the shounen -- and since he's very character-and-plot-driven, he seems to do a decent shounen story (coughcoughfuckyoukubo) without losing focus of the destination. There's still a very clear goal -- finding his father -- that actually motivates Negi, and he continues to go after that goal. How long Ken can keep stringing us along before Negi finds the man, well, we'll see, but there's enough depth in the setting to continue after finding Nagi, really.

There's a lot of clear evolution in Negi's training -- a lot of genuine in-story theory that goes into power upgrades. It's well-planned out. For the most part, characters have to actually work at their power (at least, past the point of introduction). Yue spends all that time in school learning magic, and she's still not as strong as Negi was when he was introduced (which is unheard of in a fighting manga!), though considerably more flexible.

There is still some danger of excess character flooding, as more and more of the students find out about magic. The non-powered students that followed Ala Alba haven't detracted from the story too much, and in fact served somewhat to introduce us to some of the basic elements of the setting, but we honestly have more than enough secondary characters as it is. Other than Sudden Batshit Author Syndrome, this is my primary concern. The manga has been very good about keeping me interested and being balanced between progression and detail.

They can easily throw in at least one major arc after Negi finds Nagi by simply explaining that Nagi disappeared because of x bad guy and Negi has to finish the guy off. Though we have no idea how far off that is. By the way power is going if Negi defeats Fate 1v1 he'll already almost be on par with Nagi. And if he were to actually beat Rakan he'd theoretically be on par with Nagi. If Negi is already that strong exactly how many bad guys can you introduce at this point that poses a threat?

That's one issue with the manga. As well, I mentioned excessive power ups, and while yes the power ups have been thought/planned out and make plenty of sense, just look at it a bit. Negi trained for months (via villa) to simply go on this trip. First 10s of getting to his destination and he gets defeated, then he goes and trains some more to be able to defeat Fate...and now he's going to do even MORE training before defeating Fate so that he can defeat the guy who was training him to defeat Fate. It's just soooooooooooo much training and there have been few actual battles. While I do much enjoy the quicker battles than the long stare-fests of other manga, I just wish some more actual battles happened, lol.

And you could make up some excuse, saying Fate was merely a golem of super badass guy and the Fate Negi fought is weaker than the one Nagi fought (I'm thinking this is already a place they may go) but if Negi can actually beat Rakan 1v1 that makes it so there really isn't much gap between father and son which worries me. Negi's team is amazing and I'm not sure where they'll find anyone to put up a real fight with them after Fate's team, lol.

I can't wait to get more on Asuna, I've been wanting to learn more and more about her since pretty much forever, everytime they bring her up I'm all ears but they keep teasing me XD

I'd say my hope is that Fate isn't quite as strong as Rakan thinks and is weaker than the Fate Nagi defeated and Negi is able to defeat him as expected. But Rakan just messes with Negi and beats him after pushing Negi to his limits (not that I think that's really possible since Negi can't get to his full power solo >.>) or maybe Rakan adds a special clause that lets Negi's ENTIRE team fight against Rakan. That'd be an epic battle I'd love to see and would help keep power levels a bit more sane. But everything is hinting that won't happen with the talk of "man vs man" fight and extra training specifically for Negi...

I love all the side characters though, they have far more variety in personalities than most manga do and they're fleshed out a bit more. As well a few of them just stick with you. Chisame is a wonderful addition to the team, almost adding in parody aspects to the manga with relating everything to an RPG/fantasy story battle system, lol. I like pretty much all the Negima girls more than I care for Sakura or Orihime in Naruto and while that may not be saying a lot since those girls are disliked by most in their manga, they're also the top female characters in them and there are 31 female characters in Negima who I like more than them, heh. As well the mangaka has done an excellent job of keeping things quick. When he does an update on all the characters he'll go through 5-10 characters in a single chapter, far better than taking 2-3 chapters to go over 1 character like some manga do it.

[yayaok]

never seen the anime considering most anime adoptations from manga sucks anyway if you start manga first lol

ive loved negima since day 1, and without a doubt it just keeps getting better and better. was a fan of love hina back in the day (if i read it again this very moment i probably couldnt stand it but it was middle school back then, so..) and happened to check it out, fell in love instantely.

in terms of story and strong connections with character, negima currently falls into top1/2 easily cant wait to see more secrets revealed, i love how akamatsu is slowly revealing stuff about the past but constantely cockblocking also to keep the readers anticipated, he does it in a way so its not really frustrating and gets people pumped up for the next chapter often.

i still wonder wtf happened to the 'real asuna', where the fuck is she and who are the cunts keeping her hostage lol it this seems like such a huge part in the current arc but i feel its kinda fading away currently because of negi vs rakan.

and who else loves like 15 characters in the series? seriously, the looks/personalities for most characters are really well done and akamatsu uses'em wisely unlike most series (naruto and other teams for example lol)

[Man0warr]

Skip the anime, except for the 3 recent OVAs that actually have the mangaka involved so they are true to the manga.

Can't really watch the OVAs until your well into the manga though.

Also, there are better manga out there, but Negima is pretty good.

Those complaining about Fan service have to realize the guy that writes the manga invented fan service and harem in its modern form, <3 Love Hina

[Zilong]

Oh, I realize that, but I honestly thought it'd be a lot tamer when the main protagonist is just a fucking 10 year old.

I was wrong, like usual.

[GRT]

thinking about giving it up

way too much power level xxxx doses going into it lately

[Eaglestrike]

thinking about giving it up

way too much power level xxxx doses going into it lately

I think the power level thing is a more humorous than annoying. I haven't seen exactly how DBZ did it, but it seems like he's taking from DBZ in a more obvious way. EVERY battle manga I've read and seen people comment about has people screaming about taking x and y from DBZ, in Negima they're doing it a bit more obviously and I think that makes it better.

[Kaylia]

thinking about giving it up

way too much power level xxxx doses going into it lately

And? It's not like it makes the battle scenes less interesting.

Beside, Rankan is the only doing this...I'm not sure why you're taking this seriously.