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    Copyright Infringement?

    Sorry guys, I'm 99% sure this exact topic was posted quite a while ago but I can't for the life of me find it or remember who it was. My sister just got this email:

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    Dear Subscriber,

    Content owners that hold property rights for material such as movies, music and other content, actively monitor Internet activity to protect their rights. We have been notified by a content owner that your Internet Protocol (IP) address has been associated with copyright infringement. As part of new Canadian copyright legislation*, we are obliged to forward to you the attached copy of the content owner's notice. We are unaware of the full details and merit of this infringement claim. If you have questions concerning this matter, please contact the content owner directly. Contact information is listed in the attached notice.

    Infringement of copyright laws may result in the content owner pursuing remedies available under applicable laws to protect their interests. We encourage enabling secured passwords on your home Wi-Fi network if you have one to avoid unauthorized use of your Internet connection.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

    Sincerely,


    Shaw Cablesystems G.P.


    They also attached this email that Warner Bros sent to her provider:

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    Dear [email protected]

    We are writing this message on behalf of Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc..

    We have received information that an individual has utilized the
    below-referenced IP address at the noted date and time to offer
    downloads of copyrighted material.

    The title in question is: 300: Rise of an Empire

    The distribution of unauthorized copies of copyrighted television
    programs constitutes copyright infringement under the Copyright Act,
    Title 17 United States Code Section 106(3). This conduct may also
    violate the laws of other countries, international law, and/or treaty
    obligations.

    Since you own this IP address,
    we request that you immediately do the following:

    1) Contact the subscriber who has engaged in the conduct described
    above and take steps to prevent the subscriber from further downloading
    or uploading Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc. content without authorization; and

    2) Take appropriate action against the account holder under your Abuse
    Policy/Terms of Service Agreement.

    On behalf of Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc., owner of the exclusive rights
    in the copyrighted material at issue in this notice, we hereby state that
    we have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner
    complained of is not authorized by Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc.,
    its respective agents, or the law.

    Also, we hereby state, under penalty of perjury, that we are authorized
    to act on behalf of the owner of the exclusive rights being infringed
    as set forth in this notification.

    We appreciate your assistance and thank you for your cooperation in this
    matter. Your prompt response is requested.

    Any further enquiries can be directed to [email protected]
    Please include this message with your enquiry to ensure a swift response.

    Respectfully,

    Michael Lambert
    Enforcement Officer
    IP-Echelon
    Email: [email protected]
    Address: 6715 Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles, 90028, United States


    If anything I'm just disappointed that it was Rise of an Empire. Shit sucked.

    Anyways, should she be worried at all?

    We live in Canada for what it's worth.

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    I got a letter like this once from TDS about my brother downloading civ 4 when he owned the game and lost a disc. They sent no follow up notices or anything after that so we were not too worried.

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    Use private tracker next time, but more than likely they won't do anything past that providing you don't get pinched again.

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    What is private tracker?

    Also, I always use Pirate Bay and have never gotten a notice about anything. Is this more dependent on your ISP or where you get your torrents? What I'm really saying is, how can her dumb ass avoid this again?

    Edit: Nevermind, googled private trackers. She would never be able to use one.

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    Oh boy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindfox View Post
    What I'm really saying is, how can her dumb ass avoid this again?
    Since she's dumb, I recommend she buys movies instead of stealing them.

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    Throw it in the trash.

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    I'm guessing she torrented the movie, and if you check her computer, she's probably seeding it right now. Probably has her BitTorrent client open automatically as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindfox View Post
    Edit: Nevermind, googled private trackers. She would never be able to use one.
    Then don't pirate shit anymore and don't worry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serra View Post
    I'm guessing she torrented the movie, and if you check her computer, she's probably seeding it right now. Probably has her BitTorrent client open automatically as well?
    Rofl. Sad because all of these are probably true.


    Gonna go ahead and echo the suggestion for her to stop pirating things if she's not competent enough to use private trackers.

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    I'm gonna go ahead and say all of that is true. Took me a while to teach her how to properly find good quality movies and why the number of seeders is important...

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    I just recently got another notice as well, for fucking Bates motel of all things.

    Ive had a total of about 4-5 of these over the course of 8 years. Nothings happened yet *knock on wood*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemicon View Post
    I just recently got another notice as well, for fucking Bates motel of all things.

    Ive had a total of about 4-5 of these over the course of 8 years. Nothings happened yet *knock on wood*.
    I got a notice like this about 4 or 5 years ago. The best part is I didn't even have internet service at the time. I think this whole thing is nothing but scare tactics.

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acevalefor View Post
    I got a notice like this about 4 or 5 years ago. The best part is I didn't even have internet service at the time. I think this whole thing is nothing but scare tactics.
    I would say it is and it isn't. I think they don't have the time suing everyone, but that you have just gotten lucky that they haven't picked you from the drawing. They often enough make examples out of people over it, so it could happen. Chances are low though considering just how many people torrent.

    @ op I agree with others and tell her to stop torrenting shit. I would say she is the kind of person they do target for actually suing if she doesn't know wtf and is seeding to everybody.

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    Nothing happens to you persay, but if you get too many of those notices eventually they start to throttle your bandwidth. The amount of notices needed is random though, some people bitch about it after 10+, some after only 2-3. Just use private trackers or stop torrenting until you/sister learn enough about it.

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    Sorry, they can't touch us here in Canada. You guys keep being scurred tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acevalefor View Post
    I think this whole thing is nothing but scare tactics.
    That's correct. Throw it in the trash and forget about it.

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    Is there any issues with sites like icefilms and the associated streaming websites (Movreel / 180Upload / BillionUploads) in the US / Canada. Future resident to Canada so just curious and would rather not get tied up in shit like that given i would be on a Visa. Have a private tracker so not too worried there but only considering the likes of these now given this thread was made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oreth View Post
    Is there any issues with sites like icefilms and the associated streaming websites (Movreel / 180Upload / BillionUploads) in the US / Canada. Future resident to Canada so just curious and would rather not get tied up in shit like that given i would be on a Visa. Have a private tracker so not too worried there but only considering the likes of these now given this thread was made.
    Yeah wondering this too, I never download movie torrents but I stream things regularly from like movie4k

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    The majority of people who get in trouble for illegal downloads (I say majority, but I think it's everyone -- just to cover my bases, I'm gonna say majority though) are not the people who download, but the people who upload. This is why you hear stories about the stay at home mom with a five year old computer whose daughter downloaded two songs when she was in middle school and is now in trouble for it. These are the people who someone told how to download things, didn't learn anything about the process and laws, know very little about computers, and have essentially been providing this content to others without knowing it for years -- aka, the OP's sister.

    I've quoted the relevant parts of the letter, bolded for emphasis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mindfox View Post
    We have received information that an individual has utilized the
    below-referenced IP address at the noted date and time to offer
    downloads of copyrighted material.


    The title in question is: 300: Rise of an Empire

    The distribution of unauthorized copies of copyrighted television
    programs constitutes copyright infringement
    under the Copyright Act,
    Title 17 United States Code Section 106(3). This conduct may also
    violate the laws of other countries, international law, and/or treaty
    obligations.
    As far as I know, watching something on a streaming site is not illegal -- at least not by the letter of the law, but that might just be because the law hasn't caught up yet. That said, and as others have already said, if you're worried about this stuff and don't have any idea what you can do/how to protect yourself, then maybe you shouldn't be downloading things.

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    This is not and should not be taken as legal advice. I in no way condone downloading products illegally, nor am I telling anyone to partake in such activities, in any way, shape, or form.

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