Istanbul air traffic control hit by suicide bombers

[mallister]

3 suicide bombers hit the Istanbul airport air traffic control, detonating their vests after the cops arrived. 28 dead so far, 60+ injured.

[Zetanio]

Goddamn.

[Fondue]

https://mobile.twitter.com/sco1905/s...205056/video/1

Play of the game tho



Quick guide to terrorism in Turkey:
targets are tourists - ISIS
targets are law enforcement - Kurds (one group of Kurds, PKK probably)
So probably ISIS

Pkk also blew up a car bomb today and killed some soldiers

[Dimmauk]

Just saw the news and came here for details.

Is that weird or sad or both?

[BerenTebogo]

GF texted me and I did the exact same "one sec lemme check news" -> goes to BG

[6souls]

Death count is now at 36 with 140 injured - http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...-by-explosions

[mallister]

fuck.

[Ragnus]

I'm going with ISIS on this one. They did say they were going to make Ramadan a month of fear and terror.

[6souls]

Death count is now at 36 with 140 injured - http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...-by-explosions

41 dead (13 foreigners) / 239 injured, 3 suicide bombers - http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...ck-rises-to-41

[Ezek]

Well, time to reset the timer on the last Muslim terrorist attack. Religion of peace etc.

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[Salodin]

It didn't even make it a month between attacks =/

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[Zetanio]

It's Ramadan homie.

[Sho]

Fucking sad. Eventually the US and other nations will have to declare war proper on these fucks.

[Blubbartron]

Fucking sad. Eventually the US and other nations will have to declare war proper on these fucks.

How can you? It will simply be used as another example of the West fucking with the Middle East, and sympathizers will use it as justification to create yet another terrorist organization. We either wipe out the ~70% of Muslims that support Shariah Law (which is the root of where all this shit comes from), or we have to wall ourselves off from them and allow them to either destroy themselves or have their own renaissance. Either way will have an immense cost in human lives, but they're the only long term solutions that seem remotely feasible. Everything else is stopgaps and blind faith.

[Salodin]

Isn't the world still safer then in any point in history? If the general trend is people are getting better educated and leaving behind these barbaric religious ideals, then over time we'll be rid of them as people discover the pleasure of TV and vidya. I'm not convinced we'll see any real end to these types of attacks in our lifetime, just more reactionary measures as they continue to poke us in the eye every few weeks.

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[Zetanio]

Actual Safety vs Perception of Safety.

The goal of terrorism is to disrupt the perception of safety.

[Blubbartron]

It's not just to disrupt the perception of safety, but to inform the civilians of countries who think they're at peace that they're actually at war. There are few other points in history where civilians have been intentionally targeted before a formal declaration of war between sovereign nations. So yes, the actual safety of civilians has gone down slightly as a result compared to say 40-50 years ago.

[Andalusian girls]

it really hasn't

Salodin is right, a member of the species is less likely to have their life ended by violence today than at any other point in human history

[Blubbartron]

it really hasn't

Salodin is right, a member of the species is less likely to have their life ended by violence today than at any other point in human history

I'm gonna need some numbers to back up such a spectacular claim. The only way this seems reasonable is if you really are looking at a complete global average, which is utterly meaningless. I only care about first world nations, and in particular the US.

According to a quick google, as I thought, people getting killed was pretty damn low 50 years ago. It trended upwards for a few decades, and then back down. You could say we're "nearly as safe" as we were 50 years ago, but that's about as far as you can go. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0873729.html

[mallister]

how does a state declare war on non-state actors? how does it prosecute that war?

this is why we've had the goatfuck we've had since 2001.