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    Here's my question

    WHY do you want BLMs nerfed?

    This is a PVE game. . . .every time something is nerfed, everyone is hurt, not just the job. If you stepped out of Bastok and got Thunder IV'd, sure, bitch away, but since you rely on these jobs to help YOU get YOUR gear, why complain that your job is worthless compared to BLM?

    RNG and BST, the two king jobs that were cut down. One because people thought they were doing too much damage (or SE fucked up on the damage calculation, pick your side) and the other because SE didn't know shit about their own job. These two jobs now share a relatively lonely corner in the useless room. RNGs went from omgrng to lolrng. BSTs went from "Fuck you, I solo my exp" to "{Please invite me}, Carrie isn't that kind of crab. Did that shit make ANYONE happy other than the thirteen year olds at allakhazam that got an e-peen makeover when they see someone elses numbers drop? NO.

    Here's a protip for you: BLM IS A FUCKING BORING JOB TO PLAY. It's like FFXI Mac. Point, click. You spend half your time resting, half your time casting, and the other half oggling big numbers. To play this job you need to sacrifice all individuality by wearing the same hat, the same boots, the same gloves, the same fucking everything so you can look like every other damn midget at the dragon's feet.

    I don't play anymore, but I know if I still had to spend all that time in Aery, I'd be shitass happy if BLMs stayed the way they were. Every nerf = more time spent killing shit. Sure, killing Fafnir may be fun. . . the first time, and Tiamat was never fun. I'll reiterate my point of how retarded playing this job was. Tiamat = stun order and nuking for half damage while in the air (strategies vary but excitement still runs like that dude who played superman after he fell of the horse, name escapes me) and Fafhogg = MB, stoneskin after each wing, and aspir every now and then to answer your curiosity of 'does he have mp?. . . .oh, yeah.'

    If you're the sadistic type that likes spending hours upon hours slaying teh dragon by all means, whine and complain to SE all you want so you can spend more time fighting shit that people really only show up to so they can see the treasure screen. FFS people.

    Now you might be wondering why you're reading this, Here's why:
    http://www.thebluething.com/img/internet-soldier.jpg

    I've got a fucking gun and armor. Don't mess with the REAL Black Mage Bitches.

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    You put way too much effort into this.

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    You put too little effort into your response.

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    Definently not contesting that statement.

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    Understood.

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    Re: Here's my question

    Quote Originally Posted by Chreman
    WHY do you want BLMs nerfed?
    Probably so other jobs could be more useful against gods and kings, so they could get in the main alliance and have that thrill. Instead of always being chosen for the add party. Is it really that hard to understand?

    It's not that I particularly agree with BLMs being nerfed, but your question is sorta dumb. It's like a mom asking her 15 year old son WHY he wants to drive. "I take you everywhere you need to go! It's not that fun to drive anyway!" If you never get to drive you want that chance. Same principle.

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    The 4 posts after the original one was far more enjoyable to read.

    The only thing I don't like about BLM is their solo-ability, the rest should just be melee enhancements to make up for things. No job can solo VT+ mobs near as easily and quickly as blm's. The most elite nin, rdm or thf if they're able to kill the VT's will take a while and/or need to rest for a while after it. Blm's rest for a min for mp and get the rest of it back with Aspir on mobs and keep on going.

    Manaburns I've never had an issue with. It was how things split off in end-game. Tp burn or Manaburn, both work well and if anything wins it's tp burn.

    They just need to make mobs have a little higher magic resistance but most importantly the mobs need: Lower defense and/or evasion as well as TP gained decreased from melee attacks.

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    after reading half of that (thats all i could take) this is what i was hearing in my head


    HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME

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    No, it's like this :

    Retarded melee who dont understand how they can emphasise their job to it's full potential, want blm nerfed, because their LS dont let them in main ally because they're retarded.

    Smart melee dont really see BLM as a threat, since they can bust out nice big numbers just as a BLM can. (one might argue that a mage can do that, in just a few seconds! But guess what, monsters dont appreciate that, and munch munch goes the monster to the mage).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surealistic
    after reading half of that (thats all i could take) this is what i was hearing in my head


    HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO ME
    You're right, after playing BLM as my main job for 2 years and then getting nerfed, I felt that I just needed to vent my anger.

    Oh wait, I didn't get nerfed, I just had to hear all the melees bitch about how I was more useful then them.

    This isn't a 'WHAAAA' topic, this is a STFU topic.

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    Tiamat was really fun for me.

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    Here's a protip for you: BLM IS A FUCKING BORING JOB TO PLAY
    how retarded playing this job was
    yet

    after playing BLM as my main job for 2 years

    hmmmm, guess what, there were 14 other jobs to play if blm was soo boring, quit whining, you said you quit anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surealistic
    Here's a protip for you: BLM IS A FUCKING BORING JOB TO PLAY
    [quote:d382b]how retarded playing this job was
    yet

    after playing BLM as my main job for 2 years

    hmmmm, guess what, there were 14 other jobs to play if blm was soo boring, quit whining, you said you quit anyways[/quote:d382b]

    Yeah, I quit. I was illustrating an argument for people who are too stupid to look past their tpgiving whacks to realize their arguments are retarded by illustrating how I NOW view the job after dropping this horrid game.

    While I played, I enjoyed it profusely. Looking back with the gift of an all encompasing view of the game, I was showing up to king camps with the possibility of barely any benefit of myself, repeating a ridiculously simple job repeatedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    No, it's like this :

    Retarded melee who dont understand how they can emphasise their job to it's full potential, want blm nerfed, because their LS dont let them in main ally because they're retarded.

    Smart melee dont really see BLM as a threat, since they can bust out nice big numbers just as a BLM can. (one might argue that a mage can do that, in just a few seconds! But guess what, monsters dont appreciate that, and munch munch goes the monster to the mage).
    It's not so much that melee are 'retarded' and can't do damage. I'd say it's just more er.. annoying to do so. It's just easier to put all BLMs and SMNs in the alliance. You don't have to worry about melee TPing to do damage with a WS, it appeases the crowd that whines about mobs gaining TP, and whatever else have ya. Someone always has some BS reason to keep melee out... or maybe it's the retarded eva and def of high tier mobs. <.<

    At least BLM accumulate hate.. Unlike SMN which has high DPS for next to no hate, which I feel is the most retarded thing endgame.

    The only thing that bothers me about BLM is the sleep/nuike/sleep/nuke crap.

    In the end, the only real thing I wouldn't mind seeing changed about BLM damage would be a bigger emphasis on bursting. If they don't change the damage done by unbursted nukes and gave even more bonuses, and very appealing ones at that, to magic bursting I'd be happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    No, it's like this :

    Retarded melee who dont understand how they can emphasise their job to it's full potential, want blm nerfed, because their LS dont let them in main ally because they're retarded.

    Smart melee dont really see BLM as a threat, since they can bust out nice big numbers just as a BLM can. (one might argue that a mage can do that, in just a few seconds! But guess what, monsters dont appreciate that, and munch munch goes the monster to the mage).
    Its more like:

    Throw a ton of Melees (one of the several melee job in game) to a mob, they will give him alot of TP, which will result of him spamming TP move. Melee aren't able to cure themself except from Chakra for MNKs, and Blood bolt for some others. So even if they are 100% skilled and are able to put phenomenal damage numbers, in the end, they'll just wipe.

    Now, throw a ton of BLM (see this category only has one job) you can sleep the same mob, nuke it, drain, aspir him, cure yourself, buff yourself to prevent from getting hit, and without having to worry about his TP gain.

    If you can't see the difference, you can stop playing RDM and BLM, and go try melees for a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lylie
    If you can't see the difference, you can stop playing RDM and BLM, and go try melees for a bit.
    I have a BST (75)

    and THF (52).

    Stop assuming eh?

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    I've said it before - There are alot more ways to fix the game then to nerf blm; IE fix tp gain and melees. In case you didn't notice, the job update details talks about improving melee and not nerfing blm. In fact I really dont see any nerf in there. They just said they want to give bonuses for blms to exp (having only one blm in the pt? increased MB damage?). Reading all the other desc, they are VERY hesitant to nerf anything. And I don't blame them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lordwafik
    No, it's like this :

    Retarded melee who dont understand how they can emphasise their job to it's full potential, want blm nerfed, because their LS dont let them in main ally because they're retarded.

    Smart melee dont really see BLM as a threat, since they can bust out nice big numbers just as a BLM can. (one might argue that a mage can do that, in just a few seconds! But guess what, monsters dont appreciate that, and munch munch goes the monster to the mage).
    One of the most twinked melees I know of goes balls out on fafnir with his great axe. Whats really funny though is when he gets winged and uses raging rush, but misses fafnir. I gave him so much shit for that lol. At least he's stopped sleeping TP (wtf?) now and actually TPs off fafnir.

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    lol yeah, meleeing fafnir isnt too bad so long as people understand how to do it. If you take a generic exp setup, of course fafnir is gonna be like "Hi wing lol". Melee arent as horrible as people make stuff out to be. If you are getting winged so bad, you're just getting unlucky with TP moves.

    Most our fafs are done with 2-3 BLM, if more, fast fight, otherwise it takes longer (obviously) but it's not as if it's impossible.

    I laugh when people think that a mob uses meditate anytime you swing at it. If you get hit, that's what your white / red mage is for, to heal you. It's not like you're soloing it.

    Some people need to think outside the box, or even better, think of back in the past when we used to do these fights with 1 blm, 2 if we're lucky. I remember being the token blm for my old LS You can still defeat the mobs, within rage mode timer, just not with super speed.

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