DM Earring Return (Maybe?)

[Garret]

I realize this topic has been beaten to death a number of times, which is why I posted it in the newbie forum.

However, I had a potential thought regarding it, which may have been theorized before, but one I haven't seen posted.

First off, it hinges off the new item restoration policy. Secondly it depends on how much data about your character a GM can tell.

Now, can a GM determine when you completed a Quest or originally received an item, assuming it is not an item that you just received into your inventory, since that would be in recent logs, I assume.

If they can't, is it possible to simply try use up an Item Restoration and claim that you simply picked the wrong one accidently and see if they will allow you to then throw it away & place a different one in your inventory? If someone has tried this then so be it, I have no idea.

Feel free to lock this blatantly potentially ridiculous question if there's not a prayer of that working.

[Jeryhn]

I'm pretty sure the GM team can see if you've completed a mission or quest, but not when, seeing as how their "records" for item restoral only seem to go back seven days.

It's worth calling a GM and seeing if it works, I guess.

[Neogearzx]

GMs can restore Rare.Ex items if you can tell them:
When it happend and in what zone.

[Jeryhn]

GMs can restore Rare.Ex items if you can tell them:
When it happend and in what zone.

You did not read his post.

[Kyreth]

No.

GM's will only recover an item when they have the log for it's loss.

When you file for a recovery, they'll ask when and where, and then go through the zone logs for you actually dropping/losing the item in question, find the incident, and then restore exactly what you lost. If it's too long since you dropped the item, you won't get it back at all.

Dropping one DM earring and saying you dropped another will only get you the original one back. Don't waste your time or your recovery one-shot.

(And yes, your post is probably being read by an S-E person in perpetual lurk mode. Nice try, no cookie.)

[Garret]

I am not saying to throw away the item. I am saying to tell the GM you picked the wrong one.

Going off another example, there is at least 1 case of item restoration where someone accidently lotted a King Abj, I think it was an A. Body off Nidhogg. The GM spoke to the parties involved, the one who accidently lotted it agreed to throw it away and the GM then placed one in the inventory of person who should have received it. I'd say that suggests they can actually create items in your inventory with this power.

I do intend to place a call & find out, worst case scenario they say they can't do that, and then I won't toss the earring.

I was more curious if anyone had ever actually tried this.

[ringthree]

No.

GM's will only recover an item when they have the log for it's loss.

When you file for a recovery, they'll ask when and where, and then go through the zone logs for you actually dropping/losing the item in question, find the incident, and then restore exactly what you lost. If it's too long since you dropped the item, you won't get it back at all.

Dropping one DM earring and saying you dropped another will only get you the original one back. Don't waste your time or your recovery one-shot.

(And yes, your post is probably being read by an S-E person in perpetual lurk mode. Nice try, no cookie.)

No. You aren't listening... Please God, kill a kitten for every person that posts without listening. Thanks.

Anyway, this may potentially work, but I doubt it. You would have to go to the Shrine and say you just got the item. I don't know if their logs record items that you have received, but if they can see your log and can not find the Obtained: Whatever Earring That You Don't Want, they probably wont let you drop the item to obtain a new one.

[Garret]

Anyway, this may potentially work, but I doubt it. You would have to go to the Shrine and say you just got the item. I don't know if their logs record items that you have received, but if they can see your log and can not find the Obtained: Whatever Earring That You Don't Want, they probably wont let you drop the item to obtain a new one.

This is probably true, but you never know, maybe you'll get a GM with a heart. I would say you're not better off lying to them in the Shrine though, because then they'd definitely check the logs and know you didn't just get it, I would say more likely just saying you didn't place a call earlier for whatever reason but ask about it.

[Septimus]

No.

GM's will only recover an item when they have the log for it's loss.

When you file for a recovery, they'll ask when and where, and then go through the zone logs for you actually dropping/losing the item in question, find the incident, and then restore exactly what you lost. If it's too long since you dropped the item, you won't get it back at all.

Dropping one DM earring and saying you dropped another will only get you the original one back. Don't waste your time or your recovery one-shot.

(And yes, your post is probably being read by an S-E person in perpetual lurk mode. Nice try, no cookie.)

No. You aren't listening... Please God, kill a kitten for every person that posts without listening. Thanks.

Anyway, this may potentially work, but I doubt it. You would have to go to the Shrine and say you just got the item. I don't know if their logs record items that you have received, but if they can see your log and can not find the Obtained: Whatever Earring That You Don't Want, they probably wont let you drop the item to obtain a new one.

No, you are not listening. People have tried to do the DM earring switch-a-roo, they have not succeeded. Logs stay in zones for a week or more, GMs will not restore an item that is not shown in the log. Period. The end. That's all folks.

I think we need to add a forum rule about people asking about having a GM restore a different DM earring.

[Kazen]

Would that rule involve making you an admin

[Septimus]

Would that rule involve making you an admin

No, it wouldn't have to.

But it would involve everyone abandoning all hope about exchanging their beastly, knight's, or abyssal earrings until Square says otherwise.

[ringthree]

No.

GM's will only recover an item when they have the log for it's loss.

When you file for a recovery, they'll ask when and where, and then go through the zone logs for you actually dropping/losing the item in question, find the incident, and then restore exactly what you lost. If it's too long since you dropped the item, you won't get it back at all.

Dropping one DM earring and saying you dropped another will only get you the original one back. Don't waste your time or your recovery one-shot.

(And yes, your post is probably being read by an S-E person in perpetual lurk mode. Nice try, no cookie.)

No. You aren't listening... Please God, kill a kitten for every person that posts without listening. Thanks.

Anyway, this may potentially work, but I doubt it. You would have to go to the Shrine and say you just got the item. I don't know if their logs record items that you have received, but if they can see your log and can not find the Obtained: Whatever Earring That You Don't Want, they probably wont let you drop the item to obtain a new one.

No, you are not listening. People have tried to do the DM earring switch-a-roo, they have not succeeded. Logs stay in zones for a week or more, GMs will not restore an item that is not shown in the log. Period. The end. That's all folks.

I think we need to add a forum rule about people asking about having a GM restore a different DM earring.

/sigh Did I not say that I doubted it? Who is not listening again?

[Dammerung]

I am not saying to throw away the item. I am saying to tell the GM you picked the wrong one.

Going off another example, there is at least 1 case of item restoration where someone accidently lotted a King Abj, I think it was an A. Body off Nidhogg. The GM spoke to the parties involved, the one who accidently lotted it agreed to throw it away and the GM then placed one in the inventory of person who should have received it. I'd say that suggests they can actually create items in your inventory with this power.

I do intend to place a call & find out, worst case scenario they say they can't do that, and then I won't toss the earring.

I was more curious if anyone had ever actually tried this.

If you had bothred to read up more on your example, that or a later thread had people cite that incident, and an SGM had said the GM who fixed the Abj lot fuckup did something he wasn't supposed to.

[aurik]

If you picked the wrong earring, you're fucked, end of story.

Someone called a GM and asked if they could drop earring and re-do the quest or get another earring restored, and the GM said lolbeastlylolbeastlylolbeastly and then forced the dude to level bard as punishment for his impudent question. True story, ask Solsovly.

[G-Rod]

Like he already mentioned, there was a successful abj drop switch-a-roo. So they have the authority. It probably depends on what SGM you talk to, their mood that day, and how convincing you can be. An LS DRK and and NIN with a suppa and abysmal were debating on whether they could convince a GM to let them swap. No harm in trying.

[Khamsin]

Why did I think I saw "G-Rocl"?

[Gregorio]

I'm still angry I did DM as a lower level BRD and picked Beastly cause it was a free Melody+1.

[Buzer]

Like he already mentioned, there was a successful abj drop switch-a-roo. So they have the authority. It probably depends on what SGM you talk to, their mood that day, and how convincing you can be.

It was stated in the very same topic that it was mistake on GM's part. He shouldn't have done it and it won't be happening again under their current policy (=most likely never).

[Vodevil]

I'd say that suggests they can actually create items in your inventory with this power.

I've had a GM drop a moogle rod into my inventory since the event NPC wouldn't give me one (For attending last years Fan Festival). However for the GM to place the item in my inventory, I had to be placed in Mordion Gaol for a short time.

[Vedder]

A LS member threw his Sweet Sachet during a Dynamis run (he thinks), but didn't get around to making a GM request to restore it until some days later.

Anyway, long story short... I don't have pics of it, but his Sachet was restored a day later and everyone lived happily ever after.

Perhaps GM item restoration rules are relaxing some?

Don't think this DM Earring ploy will be successful though.