Blade: Metsu (PLS HALP)

[Tensaiji]

It has been mentioned in passing by a Kikoku owner on Fairy that Blade: Metsu seemed to put him at the top of a mob's hate list regardless of his placement on it prior to using the WS and regardless of the (gimp) damage it does.

Can a Kikoku owner confirm this? Or is that tingling sensation in my posterior just someone blowing smoke up my ass?

[Bleu]

We have a Kikoku owner in my LS, and I haven't heard him mention nor have I seen any specific kind of hate modification.

[Jeryhn]

Or is that tingling sensation in my posterior just someone blowing smoke up my ass?

Only you can prevent forest fires.

[Hapernack]

Or is that tingling sensation in my posterior just someone blowing smoke up my ass?

Only you can prevent anal fires.

ficksed.

[RKenshin]

I've heard about this before, forgot where I read it... But it was unconfirmed there as well.

[cassiraa]

Didn't Kikoku come out when Square Enix still thought the job was a puller/DD job and not a tank? [Devs, not players]

SE adding that additional effect to that katana doesn't add up.

[Stellar]

It has been mentioned in passing by a Kikoku owner on Fairy that Blade: Metsu seemed to put him at the top of a mob's hate list regardless of his placement on it prior to using the WS and regardless of the (gimp) damage it does.

Can a Kikoku owner confirm this? Or is that tingling sensation in my posterior just someone blowing smoke up my ass?

Usually on the top of the hate list as ninja anyways, but I think I would have noticed something like this.. sounds like BS

[Therin]

Quietus has Yoshimitsu and uses Metsu all the time in Dynamis. When I asked him of this, he said that he does often times gain hate when he uses it, but since it's only Yoshimitsu and since it can only be used in Dynamis, it's impossible to tell whether he wouldn't have pulled hate just as easily by using Blade: Jin.

If it is anything, maybe it's just a +enmity hate boost, I seriously doubt it "puts you on top of the hate list", as you said in the OP.

[Naramaska]

Could be, the Kikoku owner in our LS's hate was way-high during the Cerberus he tanked...but he doesn't play much anymore, so it's hard to say really. I'll ask him about it next time.

[Tricen]

Or maybe you had good tanks lol?

[Eaglestrike]

Last time I was playing around and I sc'd with my buddy Blade: Metsu -> Mercy Stroke, I had hate after it. Can't think of a time this wasn't the case, though I have only killed lots of mobs with him a couple times.

[Marsala]

Last time I was playing around and I sc'd with my buddy Blade: Metsu -> Mercy Stroke, I had hate after it. Can't think of a time this wasn't the case, though I have only killed lots of mobs with him a couple times.

So if a relic WS can continue light or dark on either side and you SC with 2 relics what does it make? XD

[Mythe_Seraph]

I can attest for using a relic weapon skill (mercy stroke) and gaining a boost in hate (even if the damage is incredibly low).
usually after a weak weapon skill, and an attack or two, i have hate on any specific mob regardless of previous hate, on most any mob (excluding most HNM i've foughten.)
not sure how to explain it any better than that.

[Slott]

I can attest for using a relic weapon skill (mercy stroke) and gaining a boost in hate (even if the damage is incredibly low).
usually after a weak weapon skill, and an attack or two, i have hate on any specific mob regardless of previous hate, on most any mob (excluding most HNM i've foughten.)
not sure how to explain it any better than that.

i used to have fun stealing hate with sneak + mercy stroke on hnm until cerberus flailed me twice in a row (lived the first one, wasnt as lucky the second) after that I promptly changed my sneak merits to all trick (now i enjoy mpking our main war instead by sticking hate on him when he isnt expecting it :D

as for the previous post:

So if a relic WS can continue light or dark on either side and you SC with 2 relics what does it make? XD

i think relics are either light or dark based, not both? at least the other relic holders ive seen havent been both light and dark based. (never played around w/ gkt bow or gun though and im too lazy to dig up a sc chart

also, the weaponskills seem to work like drk > drk = drk, not light > drk = drk otherwise you could just make a normal light chain and end with dark, which doesnt happen.

[Marsala]

I can attest for using a relic weapon skill (mercy stroke) and gaining a boost in hate (even if the damage is incredibly low).
usually after a weak weapon skill, and an attack or two, i have hate on any specific mob regardless of previous hate, on most any mob (excluding most HNM i've foughten.)
not sure how to explain it any better than that.

i used to have fun stealing hate with sneak + mercy stroke on hnm until cerberus flailed me twice in a row (lived the first one, wasnt as lucky the second) after that I promptly changed my sneak merits to all trick (now i enjoy mpking our main war instead by sticking hate on him when he isnt expecting it :D

as for the previous post:

So if a relic WS can continue light or dark on either side and you SC with 2 relics what does it make? XD

i think relics are either light or dark based, not both? at least the other relic holders ive seen havent been both light and dark based. (never played around w/ gkt bow or gun though and im too lazy to dig up a sc chart

also, the weaponskills seem to work like drk > drk = drk, not light > drk = drk otherwise you could just make a normal light chain and end with dark, which doesnt happen.

I swear I saw a pic a couple days ago (on BG) of a mandau doing light and dark SC. Maybe I am going crazy.

[Vail]

it's my understanding that every relic WS has a Lv2 properity for making skillchains (frag, distort, fusion, gravitation) but if any is used after an already created light or darkness skillchain they recreate that SC

I'm not all taht experienced with relic weapons (siren has very few and most retire within a month after making them)

[Slott]

well as for mandau since i have that I can speak from experience. Mandau is main darkskillchain, secondary grav (earth+drk)

it can either go mercy + distortion = drk (or distortion + mercy = drk) or a premade dark chain (or another relic dark ws) > another dark chain

for example, mercy > mercy makes dark

i've never seen it make light

edit: I just noticed you said mandau making light and dark skillchain... did you mean mercy stroke? otherwise you can still use mandau for shark bite to make light chains

[divisortheory]

mandau can make light if you use shark bite. But that's it.

As for the OP, seems pretty easy to test. Have a NIN build TP, Have a PLD flash a mob then hit Invincible, NIN use Blade: Metsu and see how hard it is to get hate back.

[kisada]

this is definitely untrue.

[aurik]

Sounds like typical "omg excalibur gives you invincible" BS.