Igqira Lappas vs Nashira Seraweels

[SephYuyX]

Is there something im missing or am I crazy to think people would use Nashira over Igqira? I've been seeing a lot of BLM wear Nashira instead of Iqgira to cast sleep and gravity, and im not sure why this is.

Nashira Seraweels
DEF: 30 Divine magic skill +5
Enfeebling magic skill +5
Magic Accuracy +3 Haste +2%

Igqira Lappas
DEF: 30 Evasion +10
Enfeebling Magic Skill +10
Physical Damage: "Curse" effect on opponent

10 vs 5? If you believe in the formula that 1Enfeeb skill over 200 = ~.9 ACC, Igqira is still better.

So.. aside from Nashira being 'free', I dont see why these BLM are wearing them.

[spooky]

I agree with you, but it's probably because Igqira Lappas look totaly shit. (On anything bigger than a rabbit.)

[moguri]

Reasons:
1) Nashira is free, they can sell their lappas
2) They are trying to save inventory space
3) they are using them for the recast timer
4) they are idiots

[Intense]

Maybe for lolMagic Accuracy?

[Priran]

If you believe in the formula that 1Enfeeb skill over 200 = ~.9 ACC, Igqira is still better.

[Spekkio]

Reasons:
1) Nashira is free, they can sell their lappas
2) They are trying to save inventory space
3) they are using them for the recast timer
4) they are idiots

nail, meet head. there's no way the magic accuracy could make up for the loss of 5 lvls of skill. period. 1 magic accuracy would have to do as much as 1.667 lvls of skill which i just can't see happening. can't be for the haste as it's only 2% resulting in under 1 second being cut off the recast time of sleepga2 and even less off single target or lower tiers. they're strictly inferior to igqira (not to mention the loleva and lolcurse on the lappas if you don't hit) so there's no reason beyond cost to not using them.

[Septimus]

Maybe for lolMagic Accuracy?

Were it 5 magical accuracy then they would be even. (Since 1 magical accuracy is supposedly the same as one enfeebling skill.) The reason magical accuracy is LOL is because there are few items available that have it in enough quantity that makes it not LOL. (I.E. Aureole)

[Liseth]

Nashira legs on anything but RDM is pretty pathetic to me. There's no reason a BLM shouldn't be sporting the lappas...just go camp Megalobugard if you don't have them.

[Shuemue]

Aye, they're just being cheap. Lappas are without a doubt superior.

[Jeryhn]

If I were to level BLM, I would use my Nashira Seraweels for the right combination of style, haste and enfeebling to get the job done. That and I wouldn't have yet another -1 inventory space for a rarely used macro piece.

When it comes to enfeebling magic, I've found that landing my spells is more contingent on my ability to macro in an appropriate elemental staff than stacking piles and piles of enfeebling skill. I would put forward that the difference between the two pieces is so minimal that you likely won't even see a difference, but yes, one of the two pieces is "better".

[Shuemue]

If I were to level BLM, I would use my Nashira Seraweels for the right combination of style, haste and enfeebling to get the job done. That and I wouldn't have yet another -1 inventory space for a rarely used macro piece.

When it comes to enfeebling magic, I've found that landing my spells is more contingent on my ability to macro in an appropriate elemental staff than stacking piles and piles of enfeebling skill. I would put forward that the difference between the two pieces is so minimal that you likely won't even see a difference, but yes, one of the two pieces is "better".

I suspect you'd find it very different on BLM with only C+ enfeebling skill. When trying to solo harder or more resistant mobs, I still get resisted more than I'd like, with gear and a couple of merits taking me up to 283 skill.

[Judai]

Nashira are lol for BLM. They are either dumb or saving gil/space.

[Kaylia]

If I were to level BLM, I would use my Nashira Seraweels for the right combination of style, haste and enfeebling to get the job done. That and I wouldn't have yet another -1 inventory space for a rarely used macro piece.

When it comes to enfeebling magic, I've found that landing my spells is more contingent on my ability to macro in an appropriate elemental staff than stacking piles and piles of enfeebling skill. I would put forward that the difference between the two pieces is so minimal that you likely won't even see a difference, but yes, one of the two pieces is "better".

I've hard time to understand how you can talk about inventory trouble when your sig show only 2 lv 75 jobs. Moghouse+safe+storage can easily store up to 4 jobs with complete macro gears, and there is still room for a few lowbie piece.

Either way, macroing staff wont cut it off on BLM, you need every little bit of enfeebling and accuracy you can get, especially considering resist are often a question of life or death solo. HQ staves are more important than weskit pant when you gears your blm, but they should follow soon after (assuming you bought every cheap NQ already obviously)

[evilpaul]

I suspect you'd find it very different on BLM with only C+ enfeebling skill. When trying to solo harder or more resistant mobs, I still get resisted more than I'd like, with gear and a couple of merits taking me up to 283 skill.

Hehe, Zip soloing didn't turn out so well for me when I aggro'd it soloing Enkidus for Diorite.

When I get my last two enfeebling merits I'll have 279 skill which should let me kill most low ITs somewhat safely solo. Dahaks and Aura Statues look like they'll be fun for a change of pace. :D

[spooky]

I suspect you'd find it very different on BLM with only C+ enfeebling skill. When trying to solo harder or more resistant mobs, I still get resisted more than I'd like, with gear and a couple of merits taking me up to 283 skill.

Hehe, Zip soloing didn't turn out so well for me when I aggro'd it soloing Enkidus for Diorite.

When I get my last two enfeebling merits I'll have 279 skill which should let me kill most low ITs somewhat safely solo. Dahaks and Aura Statues look like they'll be fun for a change of pace. :D

You could probably solo them now anyway, I have.

[evilpaul]

I've done a Dahak, but had several sleeps resist in a row. Which made me a little nervous to try more of them. It only dropped ~2.1k gil as well, and I'd expected to get ~10k for some reason. I'm not entirely sure if the dragon meat/talons drops on the Wiki are true or not either.

[Spekkio]

I've done a Dahak, but had several sleeps resist in a row. Which made me a little nervous to try more of them. It only dropped ~2.1k gil as well, and I'd expected to get ~10k for some reason. I'm not entirely sure if the dragon meat/talons drops on the Wiki are true or not either.

while it might be dangerous, due to the titanic int drop, http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Andvaranauts might be effective in upping the gil drop a bit. idk if they proc if they're just worn at some point when you act on it, or if they have to be worn when you kill it (i suspect the latter) or how much they even increase the gil, but if you're looking for raw gil drops, i seem to remember them helping. your hide to risk though. ^^

[Khamsin]

I've done a Dahak, but had several sleeps resist in a row. Which made me a little nervous to try more of them. It only dropped ~2.1k gil as well, and I'd expected to get ~10k for some reason. I'm not entirely sure if the dragon meat/talons drops on the Wiki are true or not either.

while it might be dangerous, due to the titanic int drop, http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Andvaranauts might be effective in upping the gil drop a bit. idk if they proc if they're just worn at some point when you act on it, or if they have to be worn when you kill it (i suspect the latter) or how much they even increase the gil, but if you're looking for raw gil drops, i seem to remember them helping. your hide to risk though. ^^

Even if you have to wear it when you make the kill, it's not as if you have to wear it when enfeebling. Get it down to one nuke away from death, and then equip it.

[Nirokun!]

/ proud space-saver ;P

blm is my 3rd 75 job (of 4) and i use the seraweels for (lol)whm, blm, and blu. i just dont have the space anymore with upgrading af1 and af2, and having 2 jobs i really love more than blm

and to the soloing bit: i have gaiters~ so~ few mobs can catch up to me and mow me down (especially with stun/bind/sleep1/sleepga/sleep2/sleepga2/gravity to slow them down )

[Jeryhn]

I suspect you'd find it very different on BLM with only C+ enfeebling skill. When trying to solo harder or more resistant mobs, I still get resisted more than I'd like, with gear and a couple of merits taking me up to 283 skill.

Possibly. Especially in ToAU areas, mobs tend to be fairly resistant to enfeebling. However, the only times a BLM really needs to enfeeble outside of soloing, is casting Sleepga in Dynamis/Limbus (on mobs that don't really resist sleep) or when using ES Slow/Paralyze etc. on NMs.

Seeing that I have RDM as a meriting job, I'm not going to be needing to solo on BLM much, if at all. EXP scrolls would be plenty to keep a buffer going.

I've hard time to understand how you can talk about inventory trouble when your sig show only 2 lv 75 jobs. Moghouse+safe+storage can easily store up to 4 jobs with complete macro gears, and there is still room for a few lowbie piece.

I'm an RDM that maintains gearsets for meriting, high-scale enfeebling, nuking and tanking, on top of my SMN gear and lower level gear for other jobs that I don't half-ass. I assure you that my own personal space is a very valuable commodity.