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    quick barspell question

    Does enhancing skill effect barstatus spells? example:barsleep,barparalyze,etc

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    Re: quick barspell question

    Yes it does. While it's not as clear to see as a bar-elemental (since we can see the numbers for bar-elementals), the higher the skill, the higher the resistance to that status effect you'll get.

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    Re: quick barspell question

    Quote Originally Posted by Stolin
    Does enhancing skill effect barstatus spells? example:barsleep,barparalyze,etc
    bar-status spells dont work

    ever.

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    Re: quick barspell question

    I always thought bar-status spell works as they should. While bar-elementals cut dmg, bar-status cut duration... It's quite the same when you think bout it.

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    Re: quick barspell question

    Quote Originally Posted by doofusofodin
    Quote Originally Posted by Stolin
    Does enhancing skill effect barstatus spells? example:barsleep,barparalyze,etc
    bar-status spells dont work

    ever.
    they work very good in my eyes

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    Re: quick barspell question

    Quote Originally Posted by Damane
    Quote Originally Posted by doofusofodin
    Quote Originally Posted by Stolin
    Does enhancing skill effect barstatus spells? example:barsleep,barparalyze,etc
    bar-status spells dont work

    ever.
    they work very good in my eyes
    you go cast barsleep and try to resist a mandies sleep(not pld, because thats the job trait)

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    Re: quick barspell question

    barspells seem to, in my experience, reduce the duration and where applicable, the intensity of the effect. as an example, making up numbers, let's say that roar causes an 80% para proc rate and lasts 90 seconds. with both barparalyzra and barblizzara up, the proc rate might be reduced to say 50% and last only 60 seconds. while you will very rarely, if ever, outright resist roar, you may be far less impacted by it.

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    Re: quick barspell question

    Barpetrify and barstone in Dynamis-Bastok seem to help me resist a ton of the scorp's petrify(V-Tec just kicked in yo!); it's probably a combination of JT and the barspells.

    I wish the results were a little better but I still put them up just in the hopes it'll proc when I really need it.

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    Re: quick barspell question

    Quote Originally Posted by doofusofodin
    Quote Originally Posted by Damane
    Quote Originally Posted by doofusofodin
    Quote Originally Posted by Stolin
    Does enhancing skill effect barstatus spells? example:barsleep,barparalyze,etc
    bar-status spells dont work

    ever.
    they work very good in my eyes
    you go cast barsleep and try to resist a mandies sleep(not pld, because thats the job trait)
    you go cast barfira and try to cut a gobbie bomb to 0 at that level.

    seriously, they work fine.

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    Re: quick barspell question

    the barsleepra doesnt work as well because there isnt a bar-element spell to pair with it

    and exp~ing on tigers in kuftal, i definately remember noticable resists when using barblizzara and barparalyzra

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    Re: quick barspell question

    SE Should add a very small level of Resist trait to Barsilence, Barpetra, etc so that there is also a slight possibility for a full resist :D

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    Re: quick barspell question

    exactly, if you get slept you get slept
    while the duration does matter to some degree you still got boned, usually people die and you get hit before it wears, or a mage cures you like they should

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    Re: quick barspell question

    it's also one of the enfeebles with the easiest automatic cancel:

    curing works, damage works, poison works (but not regen); so there's really nothing wrong with it being hard as hell to resist outright.

    although I have resisted sleepga with barsleepra, dark carol, and my insomnia earring before.

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    Re: quick barspell question

    The Insomnia Earring is kind of weird in that it actually seems to work quite a bit. Antivenom Earring on the otherhand... not so much.

    Has anyone ever tested to find out what percentage of the time the job trait resists and barstatus resists actually proc?

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    Re: quick barspell question

    Quote Originally Posted by evilpaul
    The Insomnia Earring is kind of weird in that it actually seems to work quite a bit. Antivenom Earring on the otherhand... not so much.

    Has anyone ever tested to find out what percentage of the time the job trait resists and barstatus resists actually proc?
    it's hard to measure the barstatus resists (unless you mean specifically gear vs. trait rather than spell vs gear/trait) because they're never 100% time reduction without the aid of a partial resist from elemental resistance.

    as for gear vs. trait, I'd guess it in the 1-5% range if you're naked vs EM. lower if you're against stronger mobs, higher against lower mobs/better gear etc.

    that's totally passive observation though, they're way to rare to do a 'good' test on without putting lots of +elemental gear on first.

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    Re: quick barspell question

    It can't be that rare, I find I resist Byakko's Roar at least around 20% of the time, and he is a good bit higher level than me.

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    Re: quick barspell question

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerion
    It can't be that rare, I find I resist Byakko's Roar at least around 20% of the time, and he is a good bit higher level than me.
    what job are you? and is your ls using any barspells on you?

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    Re: quick barspell question

    I'm a hume Dark Knight, and no barspells are used in the party i fight in.

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    Re: quick barspell question

    Quote Originally Posted by Spekkio
    barspells seem to, in my experience, reduce the duration and where applicable, the intensity of the effect. as an example, making up numbers, let's say that roar causes an 80% para proc rate and lasts 90 seconds. with both barparalyzra and barblizzara up, the proc rate might be reduced to say 50% and last only 60 seconds. while you will very rarely, if ever, outright resist roar, you may be far less impacted by it.
    When I'm n WHM in sky, me and the tanks have outright resisted Byakko's roar several times with barlizzara and barparalyzra. If you don't resist it, it causes paralyze to rarely proc. I also often resist Jailer of Loves various spells.

    Speaking of which, I love barstonra+barpetrify in Bastok. Its sexy.

    As for resist traits, they kick in a lot more then bar-spells do, yes. I don't remember ever resisting imps Silence move as a WH Mwith baraera and barsilencera. However, as WHM/BRD with neither up, I resist it roughly 20% of the time, without zenith crown.

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    Re: quick barspell question

    Doing Jailer of Faith as RDM, with just JT + Barpetrify + Barstone + some very minor resist gear, I can resist a good 60% of the Breakga, if not more. It's noticeably less when my barspells are down. I'd love to attempt it with carol+capricio :D

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