Zeitgeist

[Phoenixtail]

Edited for: Oh god the young stupidity, I can't have this be read in the future when I run for office.

[Kuya]

Already been posted, and some of the things it says aren't elaborated enough or are simply untrue.

[Phoenixtail]

My bad for it having already been posted. I saw it and immediately felt the need to inform as many people as possible.

[Kuya]

Np, it's a common feeling some people get from watching the movie. And even though this is OLD, i bet a few certain people are going to come in here eventually and rant something along the lines of : BY THE BALLS OF JUAN BOBO, THE NAZI JEWS DID IT

[Phoenixtail]

rofl, i was expecting much of the type. was prepared for it, floods of dumb are native to the internetz.

[thestalkmore]

Nice sig holy shit, me either.

[Phoenixtail]

rofl thank you. and I made that like 2 years ago. SHES PRETTY PUNK NOW

[guartz]

BY THE BALLS OF JUAN BOBO, THE NAZI JEWS DID IT!

[Kainsin]

The father of one of my college friends is one of the world's leading structural forensic investigators and was at the WTC site by day 3 or 4 to analyze why the buildings collapsed the way that they did. He was also part of a think tank about them but not part of the WTC Commission.

For that reason alone I'm pretty sure that if there was some legitimate controversy about the WTC collapse I would have heard about it a lot sooner from a much more reliable source (seeing as how I've met his dad a couple times before and after 9/11).

The only thing in that part that I didn't have an explanation for was the collapse of WTC Building 7. I asked my friend about it a couple weeks ago when I saw him last but he didn't really know any specifics.

As for the other two parts, I did some independent research after watching the movie and came to learn that there was some information about Horus that the movie got wrong and wouldn't have fit in with the comparative analysis of him and Jesus (I'm Atheist, so I don't mind debunking religions, but I don't want to be inaccurate).

For the final part, it seemed to touch upon a lot of objections that people have with the Federal Reserve (and there are quite a few books about why it is not good for the economy or for the general populace) but there's also a lot of supporters for it as well, saying that a free-bank system has been tried and failed in the past...a central bank being the most stable system we have even though it's not perfect.

The whole RealID system is up to your own interpretations, in my opinion. It's a privacy concern, no doubt, but do you believe in a group of extremely wealthy individuals are trying to essentially take over the world using this?

[riddaraan]

I'm sorry to say, but most likely, your friends dad is corrupted. Either by his own devices, or through misinformation by the government. Truthfully, the term "think tank" is used to describe groups of people paid to contemplate and strategize about things that others are neglecting to do as their job. In other words, Joe is in charge of Thing A. He spends every day at work making sure Thing A is working properly. But for some reason, Joe neglects Thing A, and it winds up causing problem with Jill's project, Thing B. When they both realize the catastrophe, instead of sitting down together to work out problems, they call up the Think Tank Council to figure out what the problem is. So the Think Tank gets misinformation from Joe, because he neglected his product & doesn't know much about it, and misinformation from Jill, because she just started, so she's uninformed on her project. Then the Think Tank analyzes, computes, estimates, and concludes all their information based on misinformation from Joe & Jill, and they produce a result. So they go and tell Joe & Jill. To Joe they say, "Joe, we've spend 500 manhours to compute at $150/hr that Thing A is being neglected by you," which any baffoon could have told him to begin with. And to Jill they say, "Jill, we've spent 800 manhours at $150/hr to compute that we can't figure out why Thing B isn't working as it is supposed to, according to your information. We suggest dedicating more time (so we'll keep jobs), to researching this problem." And so she does. And productivity goes down. And cost goes up. And so on and so on.

And that's what a think tank does.

I'm a pretty paranoid person, I guess, but I try to keep level headed. After watching Loose Change, I started doing my own looking around, and I think the government had a huge hand in things. I know not everything that was said in that movie was factual or accurate, but since then a lot of data & evidence has been uncovered which the government refuses to, or cannot answer.

Startling enough, something like 30% of people believe that the government is hiding something or covering up something about 9/11. What's startling about it is how vast this thought process runs, and why no one has done anything about it.

Edit:
By the way, in my example about Thing A & Thing B, the obvious solutions are to either fire Joe for being neglectful, or increase management discipline, and to find better instruction for Jill, or assign a temporary work partner until her first week at work is over.

[guartz]

i sayed joos did it

[Kuya]

I remember reading up on the IRS, but i forgot alot about it. But i do believe their base of operations is in fact situated here, in Puerto Rico.