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    Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

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    DES MOINES, Iowa - Sen. Barack Obama swept to victory in the Iowa caucuses Thursday night, pushing Hillary Rodham Clinton to third place and taking a major stride in a historic bid to become the nation's first black president. Mike Huckabee rode a wave of support from evangelical Christians to win the opening round among Republicans in the 2008 campaign for the White House.

    Obama, 46 and a first-term senator from Illinois, told a raucous victory rally his triumph showed that in "big cities and small towns, you came together to say, 'We are one nation, we are one people and our time for change has come.'"

    Final Democratic returns showed the first-term lawmaker gaining 38 percent support. Former Sen. John Edwards of North Carolina gained second, barely edging out Clinton, the former first lady.

    Huckabee celebrated his own victory over Mitt Romney and a crowded Republican field. "A new day is needed in American politics, just like a new day is needed in American government," the former Arkansas governor told cheering supporters. "It starts here, but it doesn't end here. It goes all the way through the other states and ends at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue."

    Huckabee, a preacher turned politician, handily defeated Romney despite being outspent by millions of dollars and deciding in the campaign's final days to scrap television commercials that would have assailed the former Massachusetts governor. He stressed his religion to the extent of airing a commercial that described himself as a "Christian leader" in his race against a man seeking to become the first Mormon president.

    Nearly complete returns showed Huckabee with 34 percent support, compared with 25 percent for Romney. Former Sen. Fred Thompson and Sen. John McCain battled for third place, while Texas Rep. Ron Paul wound up fifth and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani sixth.

    With the New Hampshire primary only five days distant, Clinton and Edwards vowed to fight on in the race for the Democratic nomination.

    "We have always planned to run a national campaign," the former first lady told supporters at a noisy rally attended by her husband and their daughter, Chelsea. "I am so ready for the rest of this campaign, and I am so ready to lead."

    Edwards, the Democrats' 2004 vice presidential nominee, told The Associated Press in an interview he would distinguish himself from Obama in New Hampshire by arguing that he is the candidate who can deliver the change that voters have shown they want. "I"m going to fight for that change," he said by telephone from his hotel room in Iowa. "I've fought for it my entire life. I have a long history of fighting powerful interests and winning."

    Not everyone was going on. Democratic Sens. Christopher Dodd of Connecticut and Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware announced they would quit the race.

    New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson said he would campaign in New Hampshire despite finishing in fourth place with a minuscule 2 percent support.

    Romney sought to frame his defeat as something other than that, saying he had trailed Huckabee by more than 20 points a few weeks ago. "I've been pleased that I've been able to make up ground and I intend to keep making up ground, not just here but across the country," he said.

    The words were brave, but already, his strategy of bankrolling a methodical campaign in hopes of winning the first two states was in tatters — and a rejuvenated McCain was tied with him in the polls in next-up New Hampshire.

    Iowans rendered their judgments in meetings at 1,781 precincts from Adel to Zwingle, in schools, firehouses and community centers. Turnout was heavy, far more so for Democrats than Republicans in what could be an early indication of the country's mood after eight years of a Republican administration.

    With President Bush constitutionally unable to seek re-election, a wide-open race developed in both parties that resulted in campaign organizations that dwarfed anything in previous campaigns. Romney alone spent $7 million on television commercials. The result was a record turnout.

    Projections estimated that 220,588 Democrats showed up on a cold midwinter's night, shattering the previous mark of 124,000.

    Turnout was also up on the Republican side, where projections showed about 114,000 people taking part. The last previous contested Republican caucuses in 2000 drew 87,666 participants.

    In interviews as they entered the caucuses, more than half of all the Republicans said they were either born-again or evangelical Christians, and they liked Huckabee more than any of his rivals. Romney led handily among the balance of the Iowa Republican voters, according to the survey.

    About half the Democratic caucus-goers said a candidate's ability to bring about needed change was the most important factor as they made up their minds, according to the entrance interviews by the AP and the television networks. Change was Obama's calling card in the arduous campaign for Iowa's backing.

    Obama also outpolled Clinton among women, and benefited from a surge in first-time caucus-goers. More than half of those who participated said they had never been to a caucus before, and Obama won the backing of roughly 40 percent of them. Edwards did best among veteran caucus-goers, garnering 30 percent of their vote. Obama and Clinton each got about a quarter of their support.

    An AP analysis of Iowa's Republican caucuses estimated that Huckabee would win 30 delegates to the national convention and Romney would win 7.

    Obama's victory was much narrower in the race for delegates. The AP analysis estimated Obama would win 16 delegates, compared to 15 for Clinton and 14 for Edwards. Clinton will win more delegates than Edwards, despite getting fewer votes, because of Iowa's complicated caucus system.

    In the overall race for the nomination, Clinton leads with 175 delegates, including superdelegates, followed by Obama with 75 and Edwards with 46.

    While Republicans and Democrats both looked to Iowa to pass the first judgment of the election year, there was a key difference in the way they ran their caucuses. Republicans took a straw vote, then tallied the results. Democrats had a more complicated process in which one candidate's supporters might eventually wind up backing another contender.

    Clinton, Obama and Edwards had all urged voters to consider them if their own candidate fell short. Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio publicly urged his backers to line up with Obama on a second round, and two Democrats said aides to Richardson did likewise as the caucuses unfolded in hopes of blocking the former first lady. Those two spoke on condition of anonymity, citing private discussions.

    In the campaign's final days, Obama, a first-term senator, stressed a need for change. Clinton boasted of her experience as she worked to follow her husband into the White House. Edwards cast himself as the implacable enemy of special interests as he aimed to improve on last time's second-place showing in the state. Strikingly, none of the Democrats ran television commercials attacking one another, and the result was a remarkably civilized race despite the stakes.

    Romney stressed his background as a businessman and organizer of the 2002 Olympics, and he worked to persuade conservatives to ignore his earlier positions on abortion and gay rights. He ran the only commercials of the campaign critical of a rival, hitting Huckabee for his positions on immigration and the pardons he issued while governor of Arkansas.

    For three decades, Iowa's caucuses have drawn presidential hopefuls eager to make a strong first impression, and this year was no different.

    Obama, Clinton and Edwards spent at least $19 million on television advertising among them. Romney told supporters in a final daylong swing around the state he had been in 68 of 99 counties since he began his quest for the White House, had spent 55 days in Iowa and spoken before 248 separate audiences.

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    Must say, I'm impressed at the turnout.

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    Fuck me, the Dems are going to manage to get another Republican elected.

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    Quote Originally Posted by Plow
    Fuck me, the Dems are going to manage to get another Republican elected.
    I think huckabee might be the most unelectable the repubs have put up in a while (use your brains here, GWB wasnt unelectable) - a no-name, evangelical Christian who is very voiceful about it.. It would be interesting if he won it - would only show how large the religious right has gotten in this country.
    To even factor this is a race/sex issue is dumb at this point. For as many people voting against obama purely because he is black, there are as many - if not more - people voting for him purely on that fact. Same goes for lolhilary.

    Politics is getting really interesting; I know I'm excited :D

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    Holy shit, Ron Paul beat Giuliani.

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Holy shit, Ron Paul beat Giuliani.
    It's the revolution :D

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Holy shit, Ron Paul beat Giuliani.
    It's the revolution :D
    No shit but 4 weeks ago people were talking like Giuliani was a shoo in.

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11
    Quote Originally Posted by Plow
    Fuck me, the Dems are going to manage to get another Republican elected.
    I think huckabee might be the most unelectable the repubs have put up in a while (use your brains here, GWB wasnt unelectable) - a no-name, evangelical Christian who is very voiceful about it.. It would be interesting if he won it - would only show how large the religious right has gotten in this country.
    To even factor this is a race/sex issue is dumb at this point. For as many people voting against obama purely because he is black, there are as many - if not more - people voting for him purely on that fact. Same goes for lolhilary.

    Politics is getting really interesting; I know I'm excited :D

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: when it comes down to the actual election, old white people make up a huuuge part of the voters. Old white people hate black people. It's really that simple.

    You can't lose the majority of old white people and win the election, and the old white people today are still the same ones that made black people have completely separate everything when they were young.

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Holy shit, Ron Paul beat Giuliani.
    It's the revolution :D
    No shit but 4 weeks ago people were talking like Giuliani was a shoo in.
    Guiliani didn't campaign in Iowa, so it's not a surprise at all.

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    Was overjoyed to see Obama took 1 while the bitch took 3rd.

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    Ron Paul actually did fairly well (even with Giuliani not campaigning in Iowa, aside from record breaking money making days everyone ignored Ron Paul). I think Huckabee and Romney are getting too much coverage to be beaten with the amount Paul is getting, but hopefully he can make a good showing so at least people see that some of his views are desired by people in this country.

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Holy shit, Ron Paul beat Giuliani.
    It's the revolution :D
    No shit but 4 weeks ago people were talking like Giuliani was a shoo in.
    Every candidate is a shoo-in, and every debate is a showdown to see who will be a shoo-in. It's just not interesting if you show the numbers that demonstrate it's pretty much anyone's game.

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    interesting seeing the results, now what i dont understand is what are the superdelegates and such that has hillary so far ahead of obama?

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    I'll /wrist if Huckabee gets elected. The man wants to seperate all the gays from the main population.

    See all the rest of you fags on Gay Island in 2009! Its the new Guantanamo.

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    It's just one state. Many more to go.

    p.s. - fuck ron paul

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    Actually, Huckabee doesn't have a chance to win, because this is what he really said in Iowa:

    Huckabee celebrated his own victory over Mitt Romney and a crowded Republican field. "A new day is needed in American politics, just like a new day is needed in American government," the former Arkansas governor told cheering supporters. "It starts here, but it doesn't end here. It goes all the way through the other states and ends at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Byaaahhh!!!"

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    Isn't Huckabee the one with the Chuck Norris commercial?

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    Quote Originally Posted by Gere
    Isn't Huckabee the one with the Chuck Norris commercial?
    Must be, because Norris was standing right behind him on the right last night at his speech. I knew instantly who I had to vote for.

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    Re: Obama, Huckabee win Iowa caucases

    Quote Originally Posted by Gere
    Isn't Huckabee the one with the Chuck Norris commercial?
    Yes. Its actually pretty funny too, up on Youtube. http://youtube.com/watch?v=MDUQW8LUMs8

    Huckabee is a nice guy but some of his views are outrageous, both to democrats and to his own party. By that I mean, half of his positions inflame the democratic party, while the other half alienate him from his own. I think that Huckabee winning Iowa was more important as a blow to Romney, and should position McCain nicely for New Hampshire next week.

    I've heard it said before and I'm sure it'll be said again, Obama gives really good speeches. After the results came in last night, I heard him giving his victory speech in front of supporters, and it was so powerful and moving that I started to believe he might actually be able to win the entire race. He speaks with such intellectual passion that I suspect a lot of people who haven't cared about politics at all will become wrapped up in the campaign, and a lot of people who haven't regularly voted will be drawn to him.

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    I'll celebrate when Obama wins South Carolina. It'll be entertaining to see which one a Southerner hates more, a liberal educated black man or a liberal unapproachable woman.

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