Weather

[Neosutra]

So seriously, last 20 damn salvages, EVERY time we zone to gear floor weather pops that very moment.

This is starting to get rediculous.

Anyone else notice this odd behavior?

[Arthars]

luck maybe XD

just like my hikazu hara-ate that havent drop

[Baitosai]

gods of salvage hate you. only seen weather once in that area and it occurred in the last room of gears lol

[Tomiko]

Stupid question possibly, but what effect does weather have? Enhanced aggro range for Gears?

[Arthars]

yes

and in addition: increased link range for rampart/gears

[Uzor]

So seriously, last 20 damn salvages, EVERY time we zone to gear floor weather pops that very moment.

This is starting to get rediculous.

Anyone else notice this odd behavior?

We have the same problem... Due to this, we haven't been able to pop 4F rampart all year due to 1 gear always aggroing and warping.

[Neosutra]

Im not talking about weather situationally popping occasionally sometime after we hit gear floors. I am talking about 20 straight salvages where every single zone popped weather within 5 seconds of zoning to a floor containing gears. Its starting to go from "wow that sux" to "hmm, something is going on here".

And fuck your hizaku hare-ate , we cant get it to drop either =/

[SamanosukeShiva]

happend to us also for the past 5 LBC, still manage 9/10 gears everytime though

[Kirbyprime]

From my experience only wind weather actually increases aggro/link range. Had ice weather before and gears acted like they were blind/deaf. Also had dark weather in AR and I could walk within 10' of a gear and it'll just leave me alone.

[Suiram]

From my experience only wind weather actually increases aggro/link range. Had ice weather before and gears acted like they were blind/deaf. Also had dark weather in AR and I could walk within 10' of a gear and it'll just leave me alone.

Earth weather also increases distance, for anyone who has tried to MGS to the portal up to 6F after killing 5N madame. However there is another weather that can rarely occur in Zhayolm that causes the range to be considerably smaller as well. Might have been fire? I can't recall now but it was present on a run a week ago and the thf gathering up those gears to clear an easy path to the Madame room for the rest of us didn't even get them all on his first pass through the room.

I know that weather affects aggro distance outside Salvage, too, like light weather in sky with Groundskeepers, I wonder if it varies by mob family and/or detection type, or if it's standard for any situation where that element of weather occurs. I wonder if double weather magnifies the effects.

[Not Kuno]

Thunder weather used to seriously ruin magic weapons sound agro range, but they nerfed that one randomly quite a bit ago.

[Neosutra]

Ya, setting aside the above rant of mine and conjecture of specific causes to weather (should be easy to test, have 2 groups enter at same time and see if they have weather in both zones if one group warps up to a gear floor and another doesnt). It would be nice to get a composite of what weather does what.

Wind weather: Similar to earth weather? Or just increased range of aggro?

Fire weather: Decrease Aggro range?

Earth weather: Gears become True Sound with a LARGE aggro/linking area. (I had a gear aggro me at 15'+ and link the entire room).

Ice: Decrease Aggro range?

I dont remember any other weather effects in the zones atm.

Gears are lightning based, so not sure what the relation to each other element is other than the weak/strong ones...

[Arthars]

all weathers affects gears aggro/link range im sure

[Wizerd]

I thought any weather made their aggro/link ranges huge.

I know both of the ones that can appear in Bhaflau and at least one that appears in Zhayolm make them longer. And it's annoying as hell.

[Uzor]

Im not talking about weather situationally popping occasionally sometime after we hit gear floors. I am talking about 20 straight salvages where every single zone popped weather within 5 seconds of zoning to a floor containing gears. Its starting to go from "wow that sux" to "hmm, something is going on here".

And fuck your hizaku hare-ate , we cant get it to drop either =/

Yes, its the same for us. Always a weather present. However, I don't consider it an issue for anything but 3F/4F in Bhaflau.

And for us its on all the time, not just 5 sec after hitting a gear floor. I'm talking 99% of the time, with the 1% being the 5 sec when its NOT on.

[Neosutra]

Anyone wanna do a dual zone split and see if the weather is consistant across each zone or triggered?

[Uzor]

Anyone wanna do a dual zone split and see if the weather is consistant across each zone or triggered?

It is, we've tried before on split runs with my second shell. Was on simultaneously for both groups.

Just really, really bad luck...

[Holman]

This has just happened to us on Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday. We still managed to get 7/10 gears down (most of the time), but as soon as we went up wind weather . I could say it's the first time, but it isn't the first time (prior salvage shells, same thing occurred). We still managed to kill Lbc in orderly fashion, but having hate reset blows. We take the flan path a lot of the times we go for lbc.

[Neosutra]

This has just happened to us on Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday. We still managed to get 7/10 gears down (most of the time), but as soon as we went up wind weather . I could say it's the first time, but it isn't the first time (prior salvage shells, same thing occurred). We still managed to kill Lbc in orderly fashion, but having hate reset blows. We take the flan path a lot of the times we go for lbc.

Honestly, I dont even bother gear pulling in weather anymore. Maybe its just shitty luck, but even when i pull them at absolutely the MAX distance they get from each other, they sound link and warp (during weather).

The last one was the funniest, when I was standing in the Corner of the first hallway, about 15' from the door and one of the gears aggroed me from there and warped the entire room...

[Almalexia]

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