Therion Ichor itam

[Sendra]

Within one week, I'll have enough of this stuff to grab something, but I'm a little indecisive. I've got (and use) PLD, NIN, BRD, WAR and a 50RDM that I've every intent to take to 75. Which item would be most advantageous for me? If it matters, I've every intention to solo and tank on RDM.

Cliffnotes: Omega's Ring vs. Ritter Gorget go

[Leeto]

Omega ring is extremely lame if you ask me (I really only use it on brd). I prefer some int or mnd for the appropriate enfeebles (snow or aqua), I've seen worse results stacking macc and completely ignoring int/mnd (not like you can't get macc in every fucking slot ever as rdm anyway)

I can't really comment on ritter. I went omega > morganas and in between the two items I really regretted not doing the reverse order.

[Judai]

Both are nothing great imo. Don't see any point for Omega Ring really and only real use for Ritter imo is Rare/Ex Harmonia's and C3/4 Macro with added +3Enmity with the HP. They really aren't special imo.

Morgana's looks nice but after looking at all the Ichor Items I'm not so impressed anymore.

[Sendra]

Yeah, Omega Ring didn't strike me as anything outstanding each time I looked at it, but it's a pretty popular choice among the RDMs in my LS so I figured there could be something I'm missing. If it's just a "jack of all trades master of none saving inventory space yus" type item I'm not at all interested.

Choker is nice though, though I'm unsure if that'd have much use for me on RDM

[malak]

If it's just a "jack of all trades master of none saving inventory space yus" type item I'm not at all interested.

That's why I'm getting it. :D

Two mnd or int won't break me when I already have builds for +75/65/55/45/etc mnd, nor will 1 chr on my bard. It will save me 2 inventory slots and net me close to a mil for getting rid of the other rings. ^____________^

I'd go with what you would use more at the moment, Sendra.

Choker will probably be my second choice. It's not right now because the only benefit I would get out of it is 40 hp>mp since I use a promise badge for mnd, and then I'd have to reconfigure my equipment for convert ratios again.

[Byrthnoth]

In the long run, I'll probably get Morgana's Choker/Ritter Gorget/Omega Ring. Thing is, I'd want to go Ritter -> Morgana -> Ritter as part of a Cure IV macro, so there's no real point in getting either until I can get both. Omega's I'd only want for when BRD gets to 75 really, which isn't in the near future probably.

But in the short run, I don't care about either of those possibilities enough to get me to spend 15000 ampoules on it, so I hoard them and save my inventory room.

[Kaeko]

I would save at this point on the off-chance you need these Einherjar points for Relic Nyzul.

None of the items are really that amazing though as others have mentioned.

[Akucaen]

Therion Ichor itam

Tiberium? In my... wait...

[Olo401]

I would save at this point on the off-chance you need these Einherjar points for Relic Nyzul.

None of the items are really that amazing though as others have mentioned.

Interesting point.. considering I'm two runs away from my first item (Morgana's Choker for my WHM, no question about it).

[pchan]

Omega ring is the best item you can get. If you're going to paralyze/slow something that resists (Omega Ultima etc..) mnd and int are useless, they won't help much accuracy wise. This ring is better than enfeebling earring without the 3 int/mnd already so yeah grab it. Morgana's choker is nice too but all it does is give MP so ...

[Nameless]

Omega ring is also the best ring for Drain and Drain II for drk. I see that you don't have drk lvled, but that is the only thing I am after as a drk.

[Therin]

Omega Ring is great for your Scourge macro.










What?

[Sendra]

/wave Malak

Input is appreciated, I think I'll hold onto the ichor for now in hopes that they'll add something a little better than what's presented to me now. A second question, does INT and MND at all affect the accuracy of the debuffs that it affects the potency of?

[chapstick]

Omega ring is the best item you can get. If you're going to paralyze/slow something that resists (Omega Ultima etc..) mnd and int are useless, they won't help much accuracy wise. This ring is better than enfeebling earring without the 3 int/mnd already so yeah grab it. Morgana's choker is nice too but all it does is give MP so ...

Agree. I'm closing in on my first 15K ampoules, and I'm pretty set on getting the omega ring I think. I was mostly thinking I'll be using it for sleeps, binds, gravs, silences and such. I haven't decided if I'm going to give up snow/aqua rings once I get it, but I also have Tamas/Balrahn's ring to work with. I'm a big fan of +MND setups for slow and para, so I'll have to wait and see if losing the 2 mnd for those spells will break the potency.

I see nothing special about Morgana's choker, and I'd only be content with the int or mnd cape if I had them both, lol.

[Gunslinger]

only real use for Ritter imo is Rare/Ex Harmonia's and C3/4 Macro with added +3Enmity with the HP. They really aren't special imo.

Harmonia's Torque
[Neck] All Races
DEF: 7 STR +2 VIT -5 Enmity +3


Vs.

Ritter Gorget
[Neck] All Races
DEF: 8 HP +25 Evasion +5 Enmity +3

So...

2 str
Vs
5 Vit, 5 evasion, 25 hp, and 1 def (lol)

Isn't anything special? Especially in a neck slot. Ritter gorget is good stuff (especially on ninja, but still better for PLD).

All that said, I took an Iota ring as my first choice during the great "2handed insane buff" period. Was pretty insane then... now it's just decent.

[Charismatic]

The fact is though... you don't leave either of them on.
The benefits of the gorget over Harmonia's are only really seen if you were to full time it instead of just macroing it in to your hate-gaining abilites.

If not for that fact, yes, it'd be considered way better than Harmonia's.


It's like +2 instruments for BRD.

[Genosync]

Magic Accuracy is a lot better of a stat than most people tend to think. Although I wouldn't even think about getting rid of +5 rings, because you don't always need that MACC.

[Gunslinger]

I wear Ritters full time on nin/drk for things my katanas won't touch, maybe that's why it has more value to me

It also serves as nice dual or triple-purpose gear. Could use in enmity build, evasion build, or HP build. Having them all together is pretty nice, it's saved me at least 1 inventory slot I can now use to ninja Kindred Seals.

[Genosync]

I wear Ritters full time on nin/drk for things my katanas won't touch, maybe that's why it has more value to me

Hey, MACC will help that Stun stop gettings resisted on things that matter.

Not to mention, you can't exactly get a lot of Ninjutsu Skill gear, if you want to make a serious Ninjutsu damage build (and I wish SE would fucking flesh that part of ninja out more).

[Demosthenes11]

<3 my morgana's
About 5k away from omega ring now too