ApRadar not working well

[Seedz]

Just a quick question, I've been using ApRadar to duo Sheep in Antlion's Clothing for some time now, and I just did a run (first after the update) and the radar didn't show anything other than the Dark Miasma, same as it used to do before DLing Sean's(?) maps. Is this some sort of bug, or does anyone know what's up with it?

Thanks.

[Thorny]

Hey guys, my ffxi-app won't claim King Arthro. How can I make it work better?

[aceofspades]

Hey guys, my ffxi-app won't claim King Arthro. How can I make it work better?

that may be the dumbest thing i've ever heard.....

[malak]

Hey guys, my ffxi-app won't claim King Arthro. How can I make it work better?

Uh... ApRadar != FFXI-App.

[XxfaustxX]

http://www.windower.net/forums/


i just wanted to use those. theyll answer all your questions there

[Shuemue]

I can see Thorny's point. Using ApRadar to cheat in an ENM is pretty shady.

[XxfaustxX]

I can see Thorny's point. Using ApRadar to cheat in an ENM is pretty shady.

its a pretty unfair advantage camping NMs too, which ive used it for, but i can say its helped me catch a monster pop way before everyone else. sweet program though.

[fantasticdan]

What does apradar do anyway?

[XxfaustxX]

it just displays a realtime map off screen, and can filter out mobs, PCs, coffers, question marks... whatever. kinda like that thing for FFassist, exactly like, uses Sean's map pack too, its pretty boarderline hack. it only shows what you can see on screen though. only reason i wouldnt consider it a hack, its just showing you what you can already see. helps me when im pulling colibri against other parties on my BRD, i dont have to look super hard to see where they pop.

[Thorny]

Just for clarification, I have ApRadar. I consider it a great program, and I always use it if I'm in an area I have not yet memorized. I see this as an easier interface than checking wiki or ffxi-atlas, nothing more. Using it an ENM to see where mobs that are supposed to be invisible are is blatantly cheating..

[Therin]

Using it an ENM to see where mobs that are supposed to be invisible are is blatantly cheating..

I agree. Also using it at all is entirely unnecessary but I digress.

[fishstix]

it just displays a realtime map off screen, and can filter out mobs, PCs, coffers, question marks... whatever. kinda like that thing for FFassist, exactly like, uses Sean's map pack too, its pretty boarderline hack. it only shows what you can see on screen though. only reason i wouldnt consider it a hack, its just showing you what you can already see. helps me when im pulling colibri against other parties on my BRD, i dont have to look super hard to see where they pop.

It does not ONLY show what you can already see. I'm pretty sure you can't already see the ENM ant when it's below the ground.

[Cream Soda]

it just displays a realtime map off screen, and can filter out mobs, PCs, coffers, question marks... whatever. kinda like that thing for FFassist, exactly like, uses Sean's map pack too, its pretty boarderline hack. it only shows what you can see on screen though. only reason i wouldnt consider it a hack, its just showing you what you can already see. helps me when im pulling colibri against other parties on my BRD, i dont have to look super hard to see where they pop.

It does not ONLY show what you can already see. I'm pretty sure you can't already see the ENM ant when it's below the ground.

Only that it doesn't show you them below ground. It would of that zone had a map (like works with yovra and sharks), but on an area w/o a map, it won't show them.

I personally use it when i'm farming to keep track not only on the mobs, but also where my competition is.

[Thorny]

Uhh.. it certainly does show things that aren't visible. This being the topic of the thread, I would assume it shows ants though I know someone who used it to camp shikigami weapon without /rng. Both of these things are blatantly cheating, honestly I think the program should be changed to not show mobs a player couldn't normally see.

[drwaffles]

I'll be quite surprised if the people claiming that using ApRadar for SiAC is "blatant cheating" purposefully don't use fillmodes in Nyzul Isle as a matter of principle.

[Thorny]

Fillmodes in nyzul are less severe, doesn't make it not cheating. The way I see it, if you can win SiAC every time without APRadar or you can win nyzul every time without fillmodes it's not really effecting anything(though still cheating), but if you're depending on it to be able to run then it's changing your gameplay in more than convenience. For SiAC where a small group is depending on finding ant fast and avoiding too many aggros, it's severely changing the fight from how it was intended.. if your nyzul group can't win without fillmode then you shouldn't even be doing nyzul.

[Cream Soda]

Uhh.. it certainly does show things that aren't visible. This being the topic of the thread, I would assume it shows ants though I know someone who used it to camp shikigami weapon without /rng. Both of these things are blatantly cheating, honestly I think the program should be changed to not show mobs a player couldn't normally see.

Wasn't thinking of shik, but that wasn't even my point. My point was that that zone has no map, so no, it won't show them. Even if they were right in front of your face and above ground.

[Auspice]

Fillmodes in nyzul are less severe, doesn't make it not cheating. The way I see it, if you can win SiAC every time without APRadar or you can win nyzul every time without fillmodes it's not really effecting anything(though still cheating), but if you're depending on it to be able to run then it's changing your gameplay in more than convenience. For SiAC where a small group is depending on finding ant fast and avoiding too many aggros, it's severely changing the fight from how it was intended.. if your nyzul group can't win without fillmode then you shouldn't even be doing nyzul.

Fillmode sure helps shave a few minutes off here and there when you know exactly where to go to kill a mob(sometimes enabling a win if you get fucked on floors); enjoy your double standards and hypocrisy.

[fantasticdan]

Fillmodes in nyzul are less severe, doesn't make it not cheating. The way I see it, if you can win SiAC every time without APRadar or you can win nyzul every time without fillmodes it's not really effecting anything(though still cheating), but if you're depending on it to be able to run then it's changing your gameplay in more than convenience. For SiAC where a small group is depending on finding ant fast and avoiding too many aggros, it's severely changing the fight from how it was intended.. if your nyzul group can't win without fillmode then you shouldn't even be doing nyzul.

Fillmode sure helps shave a few minutes off here and there when you know exactly where to go to kill a mob(sometimes enabling a win if you get fucked on floors); enjoy your double standards and hypocrisy.

Hypocrisy where? He said they're both cheating.

[Seedz]

It did show mobs in Boneyard Gully, hence the thread. With original apradar maps it wouldn't show them, but with Sean's maps it did. Anyway, I'll ask around windower forums or something I guess.

ApRadar is only a memory reader, it doesn't use said memory to bot stuff like ffxiapp. You can call it cheating, but it's just another tool like windower.