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    Blue Mage Physical Spell Gear

    I asked this in the what's better thread and I think it got over looked. I am trying to figure out which head piece is best for my blu. Does anyone have any testing links for physical Blue spell damage and its relation to accuracy vs weapon accuracy? Thanks.


    For a Blue Mage head piece for big three spells, which is better? (Disseverment, Frenetic Rip, Hysteric Barrage and/or Vorpal blade ws)

    Gnadbhod's Helm (6 str, 4 dex, 8 attack)

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    Anwig Salade w/ Accuracy+10 Attack+5, STR+4 Weapon Skill Accuracy +15

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    Anwig Salade w/ DEX+4 Increases critical hit damage (+2%), STR+4 Weapon Skill Accuracy +15


    Are physical blue magic spells affected by regular accuracy or by critical hit damage? Or is it just affected by main hand weapon accuracy?

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    It depends on what your total accuracy is outside the head slot. I use the Anwig Salade with STR/DEX +4 because I have 85% accuracy outside of my headslot, and with the accuracy bonus spells get that's all you need. I think Gnadbod's would be better if your accuracy is that high, but Anwig with STR+4 Acc +10 would be better if your accuracy is lacking.

    Regular accuracy does indeed affect Blue Magic, as does Sword Skill (for accuracy).

    AFAIK, Brave Grip does increase the damage of Cannonball, so I assume Anwig Salade will increase all critical hit blue magic.

    Weapon Skill Accuracy most likely does NOT affect Blue Magic but I don't know that for sure.

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    1. All Physical ACC affects physical spells. Physical potency from merits gives accuracy too.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikauk View Post
    It depends on what your total accuracy is outside the head slot. I use the Anwig Salade with STR/DEX +4 because I have 85% accuracy outside of my headslot, and with the accuracy bonus spells get that's all you need. I think Gnadbod's would be better if your accuracy is that high, but Anwig with STR+4 Acc +10 would be better if your accuracy is lacking.

    Regular accuracy does indeed affect Blue Magic, as does Sword Skill (for accuracy).

    AFAIK, Brave Grip does increase the damage of Cannonball, so I assume Anwig Salade will increase all critical hit blue magic.

    Weapon Skill Accuracy most likely does NOT affect Blue Magic but I don't know that for sure.
    The big three do not crit from what I remember, so the critical hit DMG% is negligible. Thus, unless you need the accuracy, use Gnad Helm. If you need the ACC, use the ACC helm. Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alarial View Post
    Anwig Salade w/ STR+4 DEX+4 Increases critical hit damage (+2%)
    That would make a great SA(TA) head piece as well as a good general purpose hat.

    It all comes down to what you fight and therefore how much accuracy you need.

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    Hmm If that topic already poped up I want to ask is Maat cap better then those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoreis View Post
    Hmm If that topic already poped up I want to ask is Maat cap better then those?
    In pure damage maat's is better than Gnadbhod's

    I am not sure how Maat's would compare to Anwig's with 4STR 4DEX +crit damage. But I get the feeling the Anwig would be better for SA Cannon ball.

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    I wasnt really asking about Cannonball cuz Maat has no def more about big3

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    If your acc is ok then Maat's is the best.

    The rest are just fighting over second.

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    Why would Str 4 Dex 4 be a better CASA piece, as the dex does nothing for you? Seems to me like she should just get the Str4, 10 acc, 15 WS acc, 5 attack and have a good vorpal blade piece and nice 10 acc/str4 big 3 piece. Blu wont be capped on acc for hardly anything..

    Idk, I am not the blue expert.

    And she has morrigans head already, so Str4 piece seems useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neosutra View Post
    Why would Str 4 Dex 4 be a better CASA piece, as the dex does nothing for you? Seems to me like she should just get the Str4, 10 acc, 15 WS acc, 5 attack and have a good vorpal blade piece and nice 10 acc/str4 big 3 piece. Blu wont be capped on acc for hardly anything..

    Idk, I am not the blue expert.

    And she has morrigans head already, so Str4 piece seems useless.
    the dex gives crit dmg 2% which is 2% dmg on CASA[TA] spells like VC or CB.

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    Mirage Keffiyeh will beat them all for physical spells if you have 2, 3, 7, or 8 Blue Magic Skill merits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfknight View Post
    the dex gives crit dmg 2% which is 2% dmg on CASA[TA] spells like VC or CB.
    The dex doesnt give 2% crit damage >.>, and does nothing for you when using SA unless you are thf main.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimagi View Post
    Mirage Keffiyeh will beat them all for physical spells if you have 2, 3, 7, or 8 Blue Magic Skill merits.
    I am a rdm/blm first, so I have 8 enfeebling and 8 elemental merits atm. With no blue merits, mirage head doesnt beat the others? Is the +5 marginal without merits or something?

    Oh and I have 8 sword merits too, and I wear a significant amount of acc gear on blue, although I havent parsed yet to see the exact percentage. It is sounding like I should get gnadbhod's atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alarial View Post
    I am a rdm/blm first, so I have 8 enfeebling and 8 elemental merits atm. With no blue merits, mirage head doesnt beat the others? Is the +5 marginal without merits or something?
    From my understanding from various tests with other BLUs on Midgard, if you don't have merits into BLU skill, you won't see much of a difference with the BLU relic head piece. If you do have full merits (which includes STR/Sword/Blue Magic/Physical Potency), AF +1 Body and Relic Head, then it is noticeable, especially when you solo/duo imps in mire. I don't think it's possible to hit a noticeable tier without breaking over 300 Blue Magic Skill, which is only possible with merits atm.

    Though gear sets are also important too on top of having almost all merits completed. Not every BLU can simply do a cookie-cutter mold like most SAMs do, so damage output will vary greatly. Koogelmander pops up in my mind, as well as other difficult to obtain items, such as Enkidu's Harness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvonne View Post
    From my understanding from various tests with other BLUs on Midgard, if you don't have merits into BLU skill, you won't see much of a difference with the BLU relic head piece. If you do have full merits (which includes STR/Sword/Blue Magic/Physical Potency), AF +1 Body and Relic Head, then it is noticeable, especially when you solo/duo imps in mire.
    Cool, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfknight View Post
    the dex gives crit dmg 2% which is 2% dmg on CASA[TA] spells like VC or CB.
    2% of 1500 is 30.
    Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LD View Post
    2% of 1500 is 30.
    Just saying.
    That's a massive improvement when one considers the effect(or lack thereof) other pieces of equipment have on one's damage.

    Just saying.

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    Though I can't say I remember the DMG formula terribly well, under CA, I'm not sure if that's entirely true. At any rate, even if the handful of extra stats you could get from another head piece didn't approach that +2% you're getting, my point was more than you're trading greater flexibility for yet another piece that's negligably better than at least 5 others. ;/

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    And yet again, 4 dex doesnt = 2% crit damage increase, and is irrelevant on a forced crit from SA, unless you are THF main.

    Stack str/vit/def for CASA cannonball.

    As for the big 3, as most are dex modifiers, they may come close to matching the extra 10 acc, but it would probably even out and be overshadowed by the extra 15 WS acc and 5 attack during Vorpal Blade.

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    The Dex+4 Augment is "Dex+4 Increase Critical Hit Damage 2%." Separate Stats.

    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Anwig_Salade

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