Salvage Alexandrite Distribution

[nitsuj]

I'm interested in hearing how other people do Alex drop in their salvage groups.

As I will probably be the only person upgrading a Mythic in the group, I'd like a system that allowed me to get as much as possible without being unfair. I've heard of groups that allow one person to take all Alex but give up on armor drops. I am considering this, but I'd really like a few key pieces for my sets.

Most seem to just split it evenly. I don't want this if I'm leading the group, as it's going to give a small amount of gil to everyone but extend my Mythic timeline out far too far.

I could split evenly with everyone, give them priority on armor drops over myself, and then purchase the Alex off them on the spot for a discounted price (like 1.5k per). Seems fair, but not ideal as keeping up with gil AND Assault Points each work will be hell on my schedule.

Thoughts? Fair systems? Suggestions? Thanks.

[Neosutra]

Only fair way is to evenly distribute, however if you are a good group of friends, I would say give it to the one person upgrading.

[Not Kuno]

Every few months I split based on attendance. I add up total alex, and total attendance, and split it out so everyone gets some based on that. To make up for some runs having much more then others, if everyones split is more then 10/alex per person in a single run, I'll split right there (Example: Bhaf ramparts or Bosses).

[nitsuj]

Hmm. I see at least one of you have someone in your group upgrading Mythic.

You didn't try anything to make sure that person is helped along?

[Tsuki]

I think my groups distribution is quite unique. Each run everyone who attends gets 1 point. Those points accumulated can be used to purchase gear and alexandrite. we did a poll to determine how we want alex's to be distributed, the end result was that the majority voted in favor of purchasing alex's at a cost of 1 point per 10 alexandrites. If nobody is purchasing them we just split whatever dropped evenly between those in attendance. how it works if multiple people are bidding points is the person with the most points gets preference.

This could be seen as off the wall to some groups I suppose, since you can buy 100 alex's for 10 points lol, but we're a really tight knit group and have been doing salvage together for over a year daily and we haven't had any problems yet. In fact on most issues that have arisen we always do a voting poll, like rule changes, alex distribution, etc. and we have found this to suit us well since everyone has a say in what goes on. Perhaps you can just do that with your group: Decide on several viable options then vote on them.

Also I forgot to mention our group only has one person actively seeking to upgrade a mythic, and that this person seems to be the only one purchasing alex's. I don't think that mattered much in our decision making though, since we came up with this method before much was known about the mythics.

[jimbobsonofgod]

Can do the alma way. Pass all gear only collect alex.

[Tonberrry]

usually within my ls if the alex is 30or40 under we just random for winner taking all
if more than split and highest randomer would get the remainder of whatever was left



sometimes we like to break the rules and go with the lowest random!

[Teorem]

You're asking for a "fair" system. Considering that everyone involved is using their Assault Points for entry into Salvage, the "fairest" system is to split the all of drops and the equipment focus according to whatever objective measure of effort is appropriate for your group.

A distribution method that is built on the premise that one person can get all of the Alexandrite while still being just as entitled to other shared drops as everyone else involved is fundamentally unfair regardless of how you try to justify the use of the Alexandrite.

Consider exactly how much Alexandrite you will realistically get through your own Salvage runs, and how much time it would take if you managed to convince everyone in your group to pool it all for yourself. If you want this weapon completed in a reasonable timeframe, you're probably going to find yourself making arrangements outside of your group for a vast majority of it, buying from other groups or from the global market.

If one of your goals is armor, are you willing to give that up for a small sum of Alexandrite? Or are you willing to wait until the members of your group--under the big assumption that no one else is interested in keeping the Alexandrite for their own use--have the armor pieces they want before you get your own?

Seems fair, but not ideal as keeping up with gil AND Assault Points each work will be hell on my schedule.

Given the above, if you don't recognize that completing your mythic weapon is going to require lots of both gil and Assault Points (and more of one if you choose to skimp on the other), you really should reconsider upgrading. Unless you're convincing people to simply hand Alexandrite to you for free, it's a significant investment with any distribution method chosen.

[Raylinn]

Can do the alma way. Pass all gear only collect alex.

This would have worked terribly for my group. We went 3 months without seeing a single 35.

I just split each run, carried the remainder.

[Tonberrry]

"I just split each run, carried the remainder."

yep seems to be the generic way to handle them

[nitsuj]

You're asking for a "fair" system. Considering that everyone involved is using their Assault Points for entry into Salvage, the "fairest" system is to split the all of drops and the equipment focus according to whatever objective measure of effort is appropriate for your group.

Makes sense. Seems to be split evenly or give up armor for alex, both of which are fair if you're with a good group of friends.

Given the above, if you don't recognize that completing your mythic weapon is going to require lots of both gil and Assault Points (and more of one if you choose to skimp on the other), you really should reconsider upgrading. Unless you're convincing people to simply hand Alexandrite to you for free, it's a significant investment with any distribution method chosen.

Oh I recognize the investment here. I think out all my decisions (overthink, actually). When I begin purchasing Alex on the global mark (which will be after I have at least one of the requirements done) I will be able to purchase about 150k worth per day. That's a fair number, but still not as fast as some. I don't have a rich HNMLS backing me :/

Thanks for the input, gentlemen.

[cdgreg]

End of each run:

Total number of alex / total number of people on the run....
extras = random

Doesn't matter if you get gear or not, everyone splits. That's how we do it.

[Arthars]

split evenly, for permas, and 35 winners get 0 alex

or

some perma go by declaring a salvage set. Alex can be your "set"

or

everyone tag a 35 piece, if your doing shouts, and alex is considered "a 35 piece"

[Flic]

We just split alex end of run, then i buy back at going rate from members willing to sell.

[Azalee]

Ours is split at the end of the run. If there are extras then it is either randomed off or it is added into the next run.

For people upgrading mythics, other members will usually offer them at 3k or lower.

[Beave]

I don't really have a regular perma setup for salvage, we just go when 4-7 of us in ls feel like going. That being said, we only have one person in our shell who is interested in upgrading, so we just let him take the alex we receive. No one seems to have a problem with this, but we're all close friends -- many of which who have been playing together for years.

What mythic are you considering upgrading btw Nitsuj? I see your sig lists whm/smn/cor...so I'm assuming you are going for the cor weapon?

From reading what others said, I see salvage almost the same as dyna (provided your lsbank pays for dyna entry). We have one person collect all currency and they sell it, then every two weeks we do a dyna paycheck based on attendance. That way ppl who don't want/need AF2 anymore still have incentive to go. Seems splitting alex is another perk for going to salv, especially if you have shitty luck getting drops.

[Vigilia]

The two Salvage statics I've been going with for the past year both just split at the end of runs. There's another LS static that uses the method of building them up and then selling once a month in Rolanmart and dividing based on attendance sort of like Kuno described. In practice I'd say your best odds as an upgrader are to just opt for the even split at the end of runs. That way you're always guaranteed a few Alex at the end of each run and when every member has to sell their own they're more inclined just to want to get rid of it fast and sell to you for cheap (1-2k) or if you're good friends they might just give it to you. The statics that I do know that pool theirs and sell in bazaars rarely let go of Alex for under 3k each, 4k seems the standard.

[Conrad]

We collect all of our alexandrite and sell it, then use the money to fund hands/legs/feet for members. Starting to sell 35s we need to fund heads and bodies too.

[nitsuj]

What mythic are you considering upgrading btw Nitsuj? I see your sig lists whm/smn/cor...so I'm assuming you are going for the cor weapon?
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Summoner, actually. COR weapon has seemed mediocre for melee joyeuse COR until today (double damage Slug Shot sounds interesting...).

I haven't handed anything in yet, as it's still pretty early so it could always change...

[Dimmauk]

Pick a Good day(mon. Tues. Fri) and Ill salvage with you Nits. I just want gears. So I'm ok with what ever plan you wanna go with.