ACP Body Choice Help

[Xavierus]

Hi, I wasn't sure if this information had already been provided, but I was trying to determine the best body and augments for me to choose. I was thinking of making either the armor for SMN, WHM, BLM or for COR.

WHM I am pretty comfortable with the gear I have already on this job. Body pieces include Reverend Mail, AF2, AF1+1, Aristocrat’s Coat, Nashira Body (I macro in for longer casting spells for the recast time). I am almost full time on this job.

SMN I noticed some unique stats that could help this job, but I don’t use this job very often. I have AF+1, AF2, Yinyang robe, Nashira as available bodies for this job.

BLM is not yet 75 so I do not have the best gear for it.

COR gear is fairly weak as well with body pieces consisting of AF+1, AF2, and Pahluwan. I don’t get to use COR very often.

I know this is a subjective question, but which piece with what augments would be most useful for one of these jobs. I am personally leaning towards BLM, since my end game time is now limited so I wont be able to commit a lot of time to this job in order to obtain end game gear.

Any input is greatly appreciated.

[Ragnus]

In my opinion it is a tossup between Cor and Smn. I know that Smns can make a damn good bloodpact piece out of the RR while Cor's best Quick Draw piece is made from MW. Unforunately Whm kinda got boned with what you can put on RR unless you want a replacement for Rev. Mail.

[Ultimagi]

Why don't you use Corsair very often? That job is always in such high demand and there's so few of them. If you can get more use out of Corsair, it has some very good options available. Black Mage and White Mage are pretty much just sidegrades. Summoner has some good options, but nobody uses Summoners for anything endgame anymore.

[Gergall]

I would wait to see if BLM or SMN is going to be tweaked in the July update before choosing.

[Shenrien]

Why don't you use Corsair very often? That job is always in such high demand and there's so few of them. If you can get more use out of Corsair, it has some very good options available. Black Mage and White Mage are pretty much just sidegrades. Summoner has some good options, but nobody uses Summoners for anything endgame anymore.

same excuse as everyone else no doubt, bullets are to expensive.

[Xavierus]

same excuse as everyone else no doubt, bullets are to expensive.

Not at all. I play COR any time I am asked to, and have alchemy 100+3 and necessary subs to make bullets.

So I guess my question is, if you were to choose to make one for each job, what augments would you choose for that job. In other words, which Augments would you choose if you were to make the ACP gear for WHM, for BLM, for COR, or for SMN?

Thanks

[jimbobsonofgod]

Whm probably something with fastcast -enmity or something to that effect
Blm mab-macc maybe
smn - either -perp/double attack | mab/double attack i did -perp/mab
cor - Mab/-5QD

[Panthera]

There are no stats you need for your White Mage on Royal Redingote. Sure you *could* put Fast Cast on the body, but with Cure Clogs, and /rdm or /sch, you're already as fast as you need to. You *could* give it MAB for Banishes! which you could also use for your Black Mage...but Weskit is better anyway. The only reason i could see for using it for your White Mage is to make a melee body piece, which would be *somewhat* better than your Reverand Mail. And yes, you could make a piece for you Corsair, either a Quickdraw Piece, or a RACC/RATK piece, but isn't AF+1 and Denali body comparable and do almost the same thing?


Go with the Summoner Body, ACC +15 ATK +15 combo. There are not other ways to enhance your Avatars to quite this extent. The other jobs have other, comparable options that are almost as good if not better. Summoner does not have anything close to this on the body slot.

[jimbobsonofgod]

And yes, you could make a piece for you Corsair, either a Quickdraw Piece, or a RACC/RATK piece, but isn't AF+1 and Denali body comparable and do almost the same thing?
Go with the Summoner Body, ACC +15 ATK +15 combo.

can't get -5 QD anywhere else and you trade 5 agil for 4 mab, and mirke would have +5 str +5 Ratt vs AF+1

Not sure why you would use +15 acc + 15att combo for smn
wouldn't attack/double attack be better for an idle piece if you aren't concerned with MP
or something with Pet MAB for a Merited BP peice ?

[ChibiKawaiiMei]

I can't for the life of me figure out what to do for my WHM either, don't feel bad. I just wrote it off as something I'll worry about when I level a job that can make use of one of the pieces.

[Ultimagi]

Job Specific Combinations you might like :

White Mage :

Magic : Enmity- + Fast Cast
Hexa Strike : Accuracy + Critical Hit Rate
Mystic Boon : Accuracy + Attack
General Melee : Accuracy + Double Attack
Sub Ninja Melee : Accuracy + Dual Wield

Summoner :

Magic Blood Pacts : Pet Accuracy/Ranged Accuracy + Pet Magic Accuracy/Magic Attack
Physical Blood Pacts: Pet Attack/Ranged Attack + Pet Double Attack/Critical Hit Rate
All Blood Pacts : Pet Attack/Ranged Attack + Pet Magic Accuracy/Magic Attack

Corsair :

Quick Draw : Magic Attack Bonus + Quick Draw
Bullet Spam : Ranged Accuracy + Snapshot
5-hit Build : Ranged Accuracy + Store TP/Subtle Blow

Black Mage really gains nothing from Royal Redingote except Fast Cast. For everything else there is Errant Houppelande, Nashira Manteel, Sorcerer's Coat, and Wizard's Coat, most of which you probably have. If you aren't going to make something for Corsair, I would make something all 3 of your other jobs can use, meaning Fast Cast and probably a Pet augment for Blood Pacts you use most often.

[Niiro]

WHM gets little to no use out of ACP bodies (and sidenote: goliard is a nice upgrade from nashira, more haste, conserve mp, and -enmity).

SMN gets a few nifty things, the MAB/MACC is great if you use the merit BPs often (they made them pretty pimp recently I believe) and the -bp recast isn't needed as you can activate the BP in YY robe and macro in Redingote for the damage, so you can put pet acc or atk to make it useful for physical BPs as well. I don't see the -perp as terribly important as you'll rarely be keeping avatars out long enough for it to really matter.

It's the best QD body piece for COR but depending on how often you use COR and for what purposes it's iffy. There are decent replacements (denali) but they don't compare to MAB+4 recast -5 as COR doesn't have access to much MAB gear and the only other way to lower recast is via merits.

For BLM it's a nice (and free) nuking body, with MACC/MAB it's better than NQ weskit for most situations. So unless you're planning on dropping 3-12m on genie or morri robe it's a decent choice, but compared to other jobs it doesn't get nearly as much mileage.

[Kerberoz]

QD build probably makes the biggest difference on COR, especially if you solo at all. WS or ranged builds can be okay, but meh... there's only 1 piece of gear in the game with quick draw recast-.

BLM is a waste, slightly better than an NQ weskit... certainly not worth wasting a unique piece... go spam Arrapago.

[FailureMidgard]

I don't think you should get a whm piece unless it's melee...I'm not sure why people think enm- and fastcast is good. Use goliard for erase/haste/etc. It will give you more for recast, same -enmity, and a chance to save mp. In fact, putting -enmity on this body at all is essentially useless, you should never finish a cast with it on. Fast Cast is ok, as long as you're swapping out of it midcast for -every- single spell you cast.

I agree with people saying smn or cor...the body is actually really good/best in slot for those. For white mage, at best, it's a piece to equip before you start a spell, and that's it, and even then, I don't think I'd bother.

[Plow]

Hi, I wasn't sure if this information had already been provided, but I was trying to determine the best body and augments for me to choose. I was thinking of making either the armor for SMN, WHM, BLM or for COR.

WHM I am pretty comfortable with the gear I have already on this job. Body pieces include Reverend Mail, AF2, AF1+1, Aristocrat’s Coat, Nashira Body (I macro in for longer casting spells for the recast time). I am almost full time on this job.

SMN I noticed some unique stats that could help this job, but I don’t use this job very often. I have AF+1, AF2, Yinyang robe, Nashira as available bodies for this job.

BLM is not yet 75 so I do not have the best gear for it.

COR gear is fairly weak as well with body pieces consisting of AF+1, AF2, and Pahluwan. I don’t get to use COR very often.

I know this is a subjective question, but which piece with what augments would be most useful for one of these jobs. I am personally leaning towards BLM, since my end game time is now limited so I wont be able to commit a lot of time to this job in order to obtain end game gear.

Any input is greatly appreciated.

SMN options are insane.

I'd definitely take it if you use smn much at all.

If you use it mainly for solo stuff, or kited stuff, probably take -2 perp and att+ (if you have good acc).

If you use it for nether blast or merit pacts mostly, again -2 perp but the macc/matt+.

If you don't solo with it at all and aren't worried about perp cost at all, just go with either macc/matt and att or acc, or just att/acc.

[frodnonnag]

my choice was pet acc and atk on my redingote for a specific reason. i could switch from 5/5/0/0 to 0/5/0/5 group one merits while keeping the same acc on my bp rages, but getting the biggest boost to both magic attack and physical attack, accuracy can be made up with +skill in other slots.

personally, the best options for summoner, in my opinion, is attack and accuracy with 0/5/0/5 or attack and matk/macc with 5/5/0/0, which works out to

15 acc, 25 atk 10 matk
vs
15 acc 25 atk 8 matk 8 macc


as for the -2 perp, don't bother, especially if you don't have other gear like nash hands or af hands, and you don't solo alot, it really is a red herring that will only lower your damage output in endgame events.

[Eldelphia]

WHM, SMN, BLM, COR

I have WHM, SMN, BLM, RDM, SCH and BRD. With COR at 63.

I went for the nuking option.

I don't play SMN nearly enough to make it worth it. RDM doesn't need it. Like you I'm sitting on a ton of WHM gear (Aristo, Nashira, Clerics, AF+1, Blessed etc etc).

Redingote makes a nice piece for my 320/120 set with MAcc and MAtt and INT on it. I use it for SCH nuking on some things but the AF body is excellent there for others.

Even if you're not building a 320/120 set it's a really nice piece and makes a notable difference to my BLMs nukes. I don't own a genie weskit, I might some day but this piece is an upgrade on an igqira for me. Bare in mind though I have a ton of merits already in BLM.

I'm considering going for a genie so I can make the QD body for COR but in all likelihood most events I'm going WHM or BLM.

The COR body is unique, the nuking Redingote for me currently is the most useful.

[Ultimagi]

Redingote makes a nice piece for my 320/120 set with MAcc and MAtt and INT on it.

Worse than Errant Houppelande, don't do this.

[Niiro]

Worse than Errant Houppelande, don't do this.

Wait. . . .

. . . . what?

Depending on your dINT redingote is better than NQ weskit, and even when dINT isn't in favor of redingote it's still (slightly) more accurate.

How is it suddenly worse than errant?

[Ultimagi]

Where dINT < 10, Errant Houppelande has 10 Magic Acccuracy while Royal Redingote only has 9.