Difference between PS3's?

[Ikith]

I'm looking into buying one but I need to know the difference between them.

PS3 Fat 40
PS3 Fat 60
PS3 Fat 80
PS3 Slim 120

[Kwijiboe]

PS3 Fat 40/60 discontinued.

60 has full compatibility.

The rest were neutered, unless of course you got a MGS 80gb... in which case you have emulation for ps2 games (almost full compatibility, with some performance lag)


Get PS3 slim, 299$. Buy PS2 if you want to buy PS2 games. Don't know why people complain so much about this.

[Xanthe]

You're forgetting that the fat 60 has a built-in memory card reader and four USB ports instead of two. The slims also shed the ability to install another OS, but that was a feature that catered to a fairly small segment.

[Isiolia]

Get PS3 slim, 299$. Buy PS2 if you want to buy PS2 games. Don't know why people complain so much about this.

There's a difference in what you get with an HDMI connected PS3 running PS2 games vs a PS2 running in progressive mode (or not) over component. As in, games are actually kept in the right aspect ratio, plus you can get a little bit of texture smoothing and the like.

It's not just the convenience of not needing as many consoles hooked up.

'course, if you don't have an HDTV, then it's a moot point.

Anyway, PlayStation 3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia has a table of PS3 models as well. There are other features that have been removed as well, such as SACD playback.

[Spekkio]

are there any viable channels to reliably find one of the backwards compatible units anymore or are they just over and done with for anyone looking to buy a new unit? are there any other 60 gig models that were released that were not backwards compatible that i could accidentally buy instead of the one i'm after?

[Shojin]

All the info you'll need:

http://i37.tinypic.com/or5eag.jpg

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Top pic power consumption is its max, the bottom one is the amount it typically uses.

[Shojin]

are there any viable channels to reliably find one of the backwards compatible units anymore or are they just over and done with for anyone looking to buy a new unit? are there any other 60 gig models that were released that were not backwards compatible that i could accidentally buy instead of the one i'm after?

All 60gb have BC only difference is NTSC has hardware, PAL has software.

[Balrock246]

PlayStation 3 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Has a nice chart that helps explain the difference between the different ps3 types. It's what I used when deciding which version I wanted to get.

Edit: beaten >.>

[Spekkio]

one more question if i'm not overstaying my welcome. i know that some PS3's are suffering from the "yellow ring" death. is that common with the 60g NTSC models? if i were to buy one, would there be a big chance that i'd end up with a dead system in a few months or years? also, i know that sony will repair them for i think it's 150 bucks outside of warranty. if i were to send in a 60 gig model for repair, do they return the same model repaired? another instance of the same model? or just any system they have on hand with your old drive stuffed into it?

[Akucaen]

IIRC it's the 60gb models that are having the largest amount of YLOD problems for whatever reason (basically all the 90nm versions, which is launch as well) From what I have read on forums, it's nearly always a heat related death since people love shoving the PS3 in a fucking non-vented oven it seems.

The most amusing one was related to the uncharted beta. I was browsing the PSN forums the day I re-registered my account for the US (was originally an EU account.) Coincidentally, that was last time I bothered to read them [holy shit.] Anyway! After he was done kicking ass and kissing brahs, he quit to the XMB and it shat purple all over the screen, it then did the equivalent of texture corruption from damaged/bad memory and then never booted again. He provided pictures of the CLOSED CABINET he kept the PS3 in and said it was the uncharted beta that killed his PS3.

The thread was fucking hilarious. Poor kid was absolutely certain Uncharted did it, and not keeping the hottest model of the PS3 locked in a non-ventilated box. [Yes, I realize it was running the PS3 to its maximum, but still, it's heat death.]

[Shojin]

Yellow Light is generally an overheating problem but some other things can cause it, its more common with the earlier models as they use more power which cause more heat, that isn't to say there is a big chance, I think it is around 8-10%. I don't think I've heard of a newer model getting yellow light errors. If it happens and you send it in, they will ship out the exact same model, but a refurbished one and it comes with a 3 month refurb warranty if your warranty is expired. If a disc was inside it and you mention it, they will send that seperately once they get around to removing it.

They do not put your hard drive in it as it would have to be reformatted. If you want to avoid losing all game data and game saves then there are plenty of options to back them up. I usually do a system backup with the Backup Utility in the system menu and back up data to an external HDD, I try to do it once every 2 weeks so I don't lose months/years of data if my system should die (which it did in the past). You can also put the saves on flash cards/usb flash sticks etc.

If you are really worried about it dying, Sonystyle offers extended warranties for decent prices.

[Xanthe]

I've had my eBay'd 60GB model for about 17 months with absolutely no issues. Granted I keep it on a well-ventilated, open glass shelf with no other components below it and I keep it shut down when not in use.

[Akucaen]

I've had my eBay'd 60GB model for about 17 months with absolutely no issues. Granted I keep it on a well-ventilated, open glass shelf with no other components below it and I keep it shut down when not in use.

This is what I do basically, plus it's away from any other heat source whatsoever. These slims are still crazy cool though. With your hand right above the CPU/GPU area during heavy gameplay it's just barely warm. I'd estimate at the case it's no more than 80F (Since I keep my apartment at 70 and it's mildly warm, etc.)

No clue about the actual temps though.

[Spekkio]

thank you all for your input. i'm thinking pretty strongly i'll go ahead and bite the bullet, buying a 60 gig off ebay in large part thanks to your information. i'm absolutely militant about protecting my consoles (if it's in an entertainment system the shelf must be fully vented front and back, 2 inches clearance on all 4 sides, no other powered on devices on the shelf, etc.) so i assume i'm probably at least FAIRLY safe from yellow ring. any other common problems i should check a PS3 for before hitting the "bid now" button?

[Shojin]

Not really, only other problem I know of is blu-ray drive failure, but that is a lot more rare. PS3 is pretty solid hardware wise

Spoiler: show

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english...23465/fan2.jpg

that's the fan inside the thing (ps3 slim fan is smaller as it doesn't generate as much heat), so as long as you aren't keeping it completely enclosed or playing in a sauna you should be good.

You can also temporarily fix yellow light overheating problem, long enough to get the disc out and back up the HDD anyway. Some people it fixes permanently, some people it fixes it for a few weeks. If you look up on youtube, basically you just need to take the PS3 apart and heat up the board to melt the solder. Yellow Light happens when the solder cracks and comes off the board. One of the downsides of lead regulation in solder in industries.