Prudence Torque

[Not Kuno]

Who do you think should get exclusive lot on Prudence Torque? This was brought up in ls recently and I was wondering what other people think about it. Should it go to WHM for the 7 club skill or BLM for the 5 INT or free lot for both? For those not in the know, the second highest INT neck piece is 3 while this is 5.

This also gives GSword skill +7 but GS doesn't really benefit as much from this since those WS are usually sneaked anyway.

[Izzy]

Thief for SATA True Strike.

[Razz]

I'd give it to a DRK since INT is a WS modifier for GS and it gives GS skill. I thought BLMs use elemental torques?

Come on Kuno, don't be such an item whore

[Parshath]

Well considering you're definitely obtaining this with your LS, I'd see it as being a question of utlising the item best for event purposes I guess... So I see BLM having more use for it over WHM, unless LS (and BLMs) are willing to let it go to a WHM as a toy, so to speak. Although, I dunno how INT +5 compares to MAB+ from the Uggalepih Pendant or Elemental Magic Skill+ from the Elemental Torque.

[Heian]

I'd give it to a DRK since INT is a WS modifier for GS and it gives GS skill. I thought BLMs use elemental torques?

Come on Kuno, don't be such an item whore

[Sigmakan]

I'd consider it a DRK onry torque.

Great Sword+
Club+ (for Kclub)
and I guess INT is a modifier

I suppose WHM too if they have a ncie DD set up.

But BLM? No. I think there are a lot of other torques out there to chose from.

But thats just my opinion :D

[Stilgar]

This is the optimal neck piece for BLMs. When they aren't fighting HNMs, and are between 20 mp lower than max and 1/2 max or that point at which casting the spell they are casting that the moment will put them below 1/2 max.

Clearly this should be a BLM exclusive item.

[Genosync]

When they aren't fighting HNMs,

Who did the work to get it?

Oh yeah--the LS did. Who cares that it benefits DRKs ridiculously well considering the fact your weapon's skill level as well as your INT is taken into account for the damage of GSD WS.

You can let some BLM have an extra 12 dmg on Thunder IV when they're soloing, or you can give a DRK an extra (most likely) 50dmg on their SATA WS on an HNM, in addition to having better accuracy. 7 skill levels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10acc from peacock chram.

DRK, onry, period. End of fucking story. Do the math yourself and you'll figure it out.

[Arvin]

I'm not really good with blm gear, but isn't uggalepih pendant and elemental torque waaay better than a prudence torque for blm? >.>

I'm not familiar with how good pendant's MAB is, nor if int+5 does more.

[Krandor]

DRK, onry, period. End of fucking story. Do the math yourself and you'll figure it out.

[Genosync]

I'm not really good with blm gear, but isn't uggalepih pendant and elemental torque waaay better than a prudence torque for blm? >.>

I'm not familiar with how good pendant's MAB is, nor if int+5 does more.

The general argument against this would be that a soloing BLM would need to have under half their max MP, which (most of the time) isn't happening. A good solo BLM knows how to balance rest with damage, and typically keeps their MP high (unless on a time limit due to something like Apollyon/Temenos). Elemental Torque is definently the piece of choice for higher tier HNM, while Uggalepih Pendant's not a bad choice in those silly 'manaburn' PTs.

But, Pendant's MAB >>>>>>>> INT+5

[FFXIFlux]

You were the one saying Nashira feet are godly, thats 5 elemental skill giving up 3 or 4 int and MP and enmity and fast cast depending on what other footwear. This is 5 int giving up 7 elemental skill. Sorry, you can't have it both ways. Either you need the "godly" elemental skill that Nashira or elemental torque gives you, or you don't. Either way, 2 extra int will mean shit and all.

That'll be, what, an extra 6-12 damage from your manapool before you swap in Ugglepih. 6-12 whole fucking damage. That isn't even worth the inventory space, give me a break. The torques are shit. Give it to a DRK or PLD that can't afford a peacock charm.

[mdn]

uggalepih pendant sucks and the only neck piece a blm should be using is an elemental torque

drk

[Arvin]

yeah, i wouldn't know how a blm would want prudence then. ;x

[Genosync]

uggalepih pendant sucks and the only neck piece a blm should be using is an elemental torque

Situational, mdn...... situational.

[Kurp]

DRK

Seven skill on neck is so hot.

[BlingBlingTigga]

uggalepih pendant doesnt suck

[tiberion02]

Theres like a level 20 neck with +3 int anyways, may as well give it to classes who cant even touch these kinda stats. I would think this would be Drk #1 without a doubt. GSW skill, lol, what an uber stat, and int is a WS modifier. Cmon

[mdn]

uggalepih pendant sucks and the only neck piece a blm should be using is an elemental torque

Situational, mdn...... situational.

maybe if i was ocd and macro'd in mp gear until i was around 900mp then switched my gear out and then had another macro to switch neck pieces when my mp was at half and had a macro to put on a sorceror's ring when i was in yellow hp and i actually cared!

elemental skill gear is good though :l if you get resisted one more time because you're losing that 7 elemental skill, how many 25dmg more nukes are you going to have to do to make up that 500dmg?

[Genosync]

uggalepih pendant sucks and the only neck piece a blm should be using is an elemental torque

Situational, mdn...... situational.

maybe if i was ocd and macro'd in mp gear until i was around 900mp then switched my gear out and then had another macro to switch neck pieces when my mp was at half and had a macro to put on a sorceror's ring when i was in yellow hp and i actually cared!

elemental skill gear is good though :l if you get resisted one more time because you're losing that 7 elemental skill, how many 25dmg more nukes are you going to have to do to make up that 500dmg?

Exactly why I don't use it.

Don't have one, don't care to get one. I just have Ele/Enf/Dark torques. That's it.