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  1. #1
    CoP Dynamis
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    Boosting stoneskin/phalanx

    Phalanx is light based, so i was wondering if casting it with a light staff would increase the amount of damage it absorbs? If so, then would casting it while wearing the light obi you get from the "In the Name of Science" quest further enhance the damage reduction?

    Same question with Stoneskin, only its earth based. (Earth Staff & Earth Obi)

    *side note- is Phalanx affected by enhancing skill at all?

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    SS = Enhancing and MND, Phalanx is 10% iirc.

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    light and earth staves don't increase the potency of your enhancing spells :X Better off going with the +MND on Water Staff if you're that hurting for buffing them.

    I believe it only takes 95MND for a RDM with capped enhancing and no extra enhancing gear to reach SS cap.


    EDIT: I'm pretty sure Wiki is right on this:
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Stoneskin
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/Phalanx

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    Phalanx is only affected by enhancing skill, not by mind. Enhancing/7.5-10=x

    Stoneskin is affected by both, and once your stoneskin is over 200hp strong, the formula is ((Enhance/3)+mnd)x3-180=x, capping at 350. For a BLM with 200 enhancing, you need 112 total mind to cap SS. For RDM with 256 enhancing, its 94 total mind. Mind is much more effective at capping stoneskin, with every point of mind effectively being worth 3 points of ss, and every enhancing skill being worth 1 point.

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    I usually point to this calculator http://nullvector.com/enhancing.php which is pretty handy for this kind of thing.

    Phalanx, yeah, is Enhancing Magic only.
    (from site):

    Phalanx:
    (Enhancing / 10) - 2

    Phalanx II:
    [(Enhancing / 25) + 1 + (3 x MeritLv)]

    Stoneskin is Enhancing + MND, but generally speaking it's more efficient to just use MND gear.

  6. #6
    Nerull
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delekii
    Stoneskin is affected by both, and once your stoneskin is over 200hp strong, the formula is ((Enhance/3)+mnd)x3-180=x, capping at 350. For a BLM with 200 enhancing, you need 112 total mind to cap SS. For RDM with 256 enhancing, its 94 total mind. Mind is much more effective at capping stoneskin, with every point of mind effectively being worth 3 points of ss, and every enhancing skill being worth 1 point.
    Close, but check again. SS = enhancing + MNDx3 -190 (don't understand why people write it the more complicated way, and the constant is 190 not 180). A BLM with 200 enhancing needs 114 MND to reach 350 cap, while a RDM with their 256 enhancing only needs 95 MND.

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    CoP Dynamis
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    so elemental obis and staffs have nothing to do with it, damn.

    whats the dmg reduction cap on Phalanx?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerull
    Quote Originally Posted by Delekii
    Stoneskin is affected by both, and once your stoneskin is over 200hp strong, the formula is ((Enhance/3)+mnd)x3-180=x, capping at 350. For a BLM with 200 enhancing, you need 112 total mind to cap SS. For RDM with 256 enhancing, its 94 total mind. Mind is much more effective at capping stoneskin, with every point of mind effectively being worth 3 points of ss, and every enhancing skill being worth 1 point.
    Close, but check again. SS = enhancing + MNDx3 -190 (don't understand why people write it the more complicated way, and the constant is 190 not 180). A BLM with 200 enhancing needs 114 MND to reach 350 cap, while a RDM with their 256 enhancing only needs 95 MND.
    oops, misremembered the constant, AND the phalanx formula, oh well

    And its only more complex if you cant understand it. The reason it is written that way is because it fits the formula for all levels of stoneskin, not just when x=greater than 200.

    * X = ([Enhancing Magic Skill] / 3) + MND
    * F is the the amount of damage reduced.

    * F = X (if X < 80)
    * F = X * 2 - 60 (if 80 <= X <= 130)
    * F = X * 3 - 190 (if X > 130)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faxanadu
    so elemental obis and staffs have nothing to do with it, damn.

    whats the dmg reduction cap on Phalanx?
    The current absolute limit on Phalanx is 30 damage reduction.

    256 skill base, 49 from various gear, and 16 from merits.

    Without merits, the cap would be 28.

    And if you are curious, that would put en-spells at an even 20 damage.

    I need to get a Merciful Cape. >_>

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    CoP Dynamis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Septimus
    And if you are curious, that would put en-spells at an even 20 damage
    O.o wow

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