State of the Union Address: January 23, 2007

[-Omni]

So, Bush's little spiel just started.

And Nancy Pelosi won't stop blinking...

Let's get this discussion rolling.

He proposed budget balancing. WITHOUT A TAX RAISE!?

WELL TELL ME MORE, MR. GEORGE DUBYAH!!!

[Anyway]

oh my god you made me turn it on and she seriously... it's freaking me out.. STOP BLINKING

[Bwelch]

oh my god you made me turn it on and she seriously... it's freaking me out.. STOP BLINKING

Wow, didn't notice that. Crazy XD

Probably because she's pissed off...

[-Omni]

Now he's advocating "No Child Left Behind". By lowering the standards, everybody loses!

THANKS FOR FUCKING UP EDUCATION MORE, LAWL.

Seriously, what the hell?

And the next two generations will be paying off your debt whether or not you reform medicare, medicaid, and social security.

If you're not watching, my rants won't make much sense...

[sephir]

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I only noticed it when you started to say it. What hes saying makes sense but there is a huge difference between saying something and doing something.

[Nuketwig]

My mother is a teacher and hates No Child Left Behind. I trust my mom more than Dubya.

Also god all the fucking clapping gets on my nerves. I wonder how long this speech would be if they didn't clap after every sentence.

[SephYuyX]

Im finishing up Equilibrium and then watching V for Vendetta. I wonder if it's iroic watching these types of movies while the state of the union is on.

[Anyway]

Im gonna propose the idea of "No idiot in school". Any kid who can't pass a basic skills test gets given a screwdriver and a hammer and thrown out of school. I wanted to propose this long before "No Child Left Behind" when I was in school and people were telling me their SAT scores. "God that was a dumb test, I got an 880" ... "Well. You're obviously retarded. Save yourself now."

I also love mothers who say "Well my child just isn't a test taker! It's not fair"

What the fuck is a test taker? Does it mean you have no motor skills? No memory? You see a piece of paper and POOF knowledge erased? No. Your son or daughter is stupid stupid stupid.

[Seraphise]

Did he announce any of his special guests yet?

Hello extra credit

[SephYuyX]

Im gonna propose the idea of "No idiot in school". Any kid who can't pass a basic skills test gets given a screwdriver and a hammer and thrown out of school. I wanted to propose this long before "No Child Left Behind" when I was in school and people were telling me their SAT scores. "God that was a dumb test, I got an 880" ... "Well. You're obviously retarded. Save yourself now."

I also love mothers who say "Well my child just isn't a test taker! It's not fair"

What the fuck is a test taker? Does it mean you have no motor skills? No memory? You see a piece of paper and POOF knowledge erased? No. Your son or daughter is stupid stupid stupid.

I dont care about the program, but I dont like the attitude you have about people who dont do well.

There are in fact people who cant do well on tests, but shine with real world experiance. I think HS is a complete joke, there are so many people who got nothing out of HS because all it is is history and math, how the hell does that apply to the real world?

I personally know 3 people that dropped out of HS, went to college and are better than the majority of people who went through school the normal way.

I did a horrible job on the SAT: 700, 800, 900 I dont remember but somewhere there. You know how many times my SAT scores were used after HS? 0, none, never. I also did a piss poor job on tests. In 3 months ill have my bachelors degree, working in my high paying job, while going back to night school to get my 2nd degree. I did horrible in HS, like a 2.3GPA, but that shit doesnt matter in the real world. Unless youre planning to be a history major, or a math major, or an eglish teacher, HS is BS.

I always lol'd in grade school and HS when teachers said that theyre preparing us for the real world. rofl, my ass. Everything I learned was on the job, and reinforced through college classes that focus on my job, and not some worthless class that teaches you how to properly place :'s, ;'s and ,'s.

I think HS should be more like college, how it used to be. You would focus on the job you wanted in life, the trade you wanted to be in so you could be the best in it. Yet that time is wasted so you can learn how to speak a foriegn language or how the 7th president died.

If schools want to prepare kids for the real world, then do it right. HS grades should be taken with a grain of salt.

[-Omni]

The reason High School is messed up is because they teach for the test. The curriculum is centered around the test which is the complete opposite of how it's supposed to be. That's why kids fuck up on tests because there's so much pressure to make the grade on this one test. So, instead of allowing comprehension of the subject at hand, some kids are left in the shadows because the curriculum has to cover a set amount of information by test time.

So, No Child Left Behind is really screwing all the kids who have potential to do well if someone would explain the subject for the sake of making it look like they've educated the lowest common denominator. Like I said before, lowering the standards means everybody loses.

[Kuya]

Im gonna propose the idea of "No idiot in school". Any kid who can't pass a basic skills test gets given a screwdriver and a hammer and thrown out of school. I wanted to propose this long before "No Child Left Behind" when I was in school and people were telling me their SAT scores. "God that was a dumb test, I got an 880" ... "Well. You're obviously retarded. Save yourself now."

I also love mothers who say "Well my child just isn't a test taker! It's not fair"

What the fuck is a test taker? Does it mean you have no motor skills? No memory? You see a piece of paper and POOF knowledge erased? No. Your son or daughter is stupid stupid stupid.

I dont care about the program, but I dont like the attitude you have about people who dont do well.

There are in fact people who cant do well on tests, but shine with real world experiance. I think HS is a complete joke, there are so many people who got nothing out of HS because all it is is history and math, how the hell does that apply to the real world?

I personally know 3 people that dropped out of HS, went to college and are better than the majority of people who went through school the normal way.

I did a horrible job on the SAT: 700, 800, 900 I dont remember but somewhere there. You know how many times my SAT scores were used after HS? 0, none, never. I also did a piss poor job on tests. In 3 months ill have my bachelors degree, working in my high paying job, while going back to night school to get my 2nd degree. I did horrible in HS, like a 2.3GPA, but that shit doesnt matter in the real world. Unless youre planning to be a history major, or a math major, or an eglish teacher, HS is BS.

I always lol'd in grade school and HS when teachers said that theyre preparing us for the real world. rofl, my ass. Everything I learned was on the job, and reinforced through college classes that focus on my job, and not some worthless class that teaches you how to properly place :'s, ;'s and ,'s.

I think HS should be more like college, how it used to be. You would focus on the job you wanted in life, the trade you wanted to be in so you could be the best in it. Yet that time is wasted so you can learn how to speak a foriegn language or how the 7th president died.

If schools want to prepare kids for the real world, then do it right. HS grades should be taken with a grain of salt.

Agree with pretty much most of that, but you might wana consider teaching people other materials. Only letting them focus on the studies which apply to their jobs sort of limits the ability of a person so associate himself with other people and be a integral part of society. Sure having perfect grammar is sorta pointless for certain jobs, but things like Social Science, Human studies should be taught ( and they are right now) regardless of the course you choose to take. We are educating people here, not robots who can only one thing.

[Quicklet]

HS grades should be taken with a grain of salt.

Because college grades which are typically even more arbitrary are obviously a better measure of somebody right?

College degrees are in some way even more of a formality than high school. At least in high school you're not paying out the ass just so you can get your foot in the door to interview for a job that will make you work salary (which means LOLovertimebutnoextrapay) and be just as high stress if not more than a "low-paying" job.

Just face it, schooling in general is broken and no matter what kind of system you agree with, it's all still going to be a mess.

Also, I'm sorry but if you can't get a decent grade on a test then something is wrong and you can't always blame it on the teachers. Even if you have a bad teacher, at some point a person has to learn to take the initiative to learn and understand something on their own. If you get bad grades on "tests" but can produce quality work in a job, then that's one thing, but I'll bet you that that's the minority of people and the rest are just either being lazy or approaching it the wrong way.

[Plow]

that was some freaking serious blinking

[edgarfigaro]

You want to fix schools? Privatise them, and use all that money we pour into the public school system to pay for everyone's tuition. It astounds me that private schools, with half the resources of public schools, turn out a much, much better product.

When banks compete, you win...why can't it be the same for schools?

[Plow]

You want to fix schools? Privatise them, and use all that money we pour into the public school system to pay for everyone's tuition. It astounds me that private schools, with half the resources of public schools, turn out a much, much better product.

When banks compete, you win...why can't it be the same for schools?

Because banks only compete for rich white people.

It would be exactly the same for schools.

[edgarfigaro]

You want to fix schools? Privatise them, and use all that money we pour into the public school system to pay for everyone's tuition. It astounds me that private schools, with half the resources of public schools, turn out a much, much better product.

When banks compete, you win...why can't it be the same for schools?

Because banks only compete for rich white people.

It would be exactly the same for schools.

or you know, they could be competing for the billions of dollars the US pours into education. At my private school, 50+% of the students received financial aid. A good friend of my brother applied, got the aid he needed attend my school, and graduated with a full scholarship to college that he would've never gotten if he'd stayed in the local highschool.

It's not like I'm proposing a radical idea...it's been in place in several other countries with amazing results. It's basically school choice...no more arbritary lines telling kids what schools they're forced to goto.

[zakhiel]

"Civilian Reserve Corps" o_O;

Tonight I ask the Congress to authorize an increase in the size of our active Army and Marine Corps by 92,000 in the next five years. A second task we can take on together is to design and establish a volunteer Civilian Reserve Corps.

[Kiro]

"WE TAYK U N TRAYN U DEN SHIP U OUT WEN WI WANT"

[Plow]

or you know, they could be competing for the billions of dollars the US pours into education. At my private school, 50+% of the students received financial aid. A good friend of my brother applied, got the aid he needed attend my school, and graduated with a full scholarship to college that he would've never gotten if he'd stayed in the local highschool.

It's not like I'm proposing a radical idea...it's been in place in several other countries with amazing results. It's basically school choice...no more arbritary lines telling kids what schools they're forced to goto.

I didn't say it was a radical idea.

All I said was that the schools would all attempt to get the rich white kids, and only the rich white kids. The schools with the most rich white kids would be great, and the ones in the ghetto would most likely become even worse than they are now as half the people would trade their kids' waivers for more crack, giving some rich white guy an extra wiaver to convince some school to let his kid in, and the ghetto schools get even less money than they already are now.

Waivers are seriously the most retarded idea ever and if you can't see how encouraging every school to cater *EXCLUSIVELY* to the richest people they can get is stupid, I really don't know what to tell you.