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    ToAU44

    Having finally done this last night and gotten my Crown, Ring and Flag I just wanted to add some few tips.

    The last 'Boss' you have to fight is light based and spams things continually. It doesn't move far although you can drag it a little way from where it starts. It has a long draw in range if you have hate.

    You can reraise during the fight as long as you're not too close and it doesn't regen.

    It spams an AoE move on whoever has hate as well as casting Tier III light spells and things like 'Mega Holy'. The AoE move has a magical defense down added effect and you want to remove that on your tank.

    The way we did it was with PLD. We found it far easier, we tried with NIN and them wearing % damage down gear (which helped) but almost everything goes through shadows.

    We had our tank stand to one side, spamming voke, flash, cures etc to keep hate on them. That meant the AoE was targetted on them and as long as other people didn't grab hate, they were free to attack it without getting hurt except by things like Diaga III. The tank doesn't have to stand on top of it to keep hate, have them stand to one side at max distance and just spam hate tools. Keep everyone else away from the tank, have mages at casting range for cures but out of AOE.

    We found we needed a hell of a lot of 'fresh so went with BRD + RDM. The RDM was /WHM and main healer. We'd gone with WHM + NIN but NIN empties your MP pool v fast, and I (was WHM ended up SMN) have good gear and MP merits.

    SMN is awesome for the Megaboss. It can just keep summoning Diabolos and spamming Nether Blast. Garuda is useful for the prefight against the BLU - but Diabolos better for final mob. Also a SMN can keep spamming stoneskin and erases on peeps.

    We didn't miss having a WHM when we did it, RDM/WHM simply converted and we had BRD + RDM so loads of refresh.

    We had a SAM and a BLM. BLM was free to gently nuke throughout, but don't pull hate, much simpler with a PLD tank. Blizzard works well. I'd suggest /WHM for this too. Keep DoTs on the Megaboss, he doesn't regen if you wipe and you can continue on - but the Dots will help eat away whilst you recover a bit.

    SAM is pretty nice in here as long as they're not stupid. If you pull hate as a DD make sure you're attacking nowhere near the mages so they don't get spammed with AoE damage. As SMN the only time I really got hit with anything is when I ran in to use Earthen Ward.

    There will be death but there is no XP loss and the fight is pretty fun. It takes a while to get the hang of it. You want the first section over and done with ASAP because the Megaboss is tough and takes a long time to chip down. I'd say for an everage group you'd need 20-25 mins for the boss. So if you're struggling with the first sections, HP, get a new key item and come back and start over.

    Our final winning setup was: PLD, SAM, SMN, RDM/WHM, BRD, BLM/WHM.

    Bring lots of Reraise

    Super fun fight - if not frustrating...


    1) Fight against a BLU who reraises twice, you fight him 3 times in total and he spams 'Eyes on Me' and uses his 2 hr each time he reraises. It can do over 1600 damage on a single target if cast with 2 hr but it can be stunned. His Seraph Blade attack can be nasty too. His final form can be resistant to magic or melee or ranged depending on how the previous 2 rounds have gone. SMN and BLU are nice.


    2) Fight against an 'armour' style mob controlled by someone else. V easy, doesn't need tanking really if your tank is weak. Get it to around 50% and it gives up.

    3) Fight against Megaboss. (allow at least 20 mins for this, more if poss cos you'll prolly have people recovering at points) and he has a hell of a lot of HP.

    CS after is a tearjerker - story is lovely and the cs back in Whitegate are awesome too. Definitely ends on a high note.

    Your reward is a conquest flag for Aht Urghan (like the rank 10 nation ones), your choice of three rings and your Glory Crown back, signed from Naja.

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    Re: ToAU44

    The "Mega Holy" is physical. -physical damage gear ftw.

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    When I did it with a NIN tank we didn't have any problems up until he used that one Rape AoE, Divine Judgment, which hit the NIN and the MNK.

    MNK and NIN stood on opposite sides much like you'd have DD and Tanks stand on Fafhoggs paws and they never got hit by that TP move he launches straight down the middle, Divine Spear I think it was?

    The BLM, SNM, BRD and myself on RDM stayed near the entrance off to one side and did our usual xp/HNM stuff with the BRD running back and forth for songs.

    Only time Radiant Sacrament was a problem was when a Mage pulled hate from Nukes/Cures since we were all cluttered together and when he used it we all got hit by it. When the Tank or Mnk got hit by it it was only one of them that got hit, the other would be fine, so the AoE Radius isn't that big from what I saw.

    As long as you have the DD power and don't get unlucky with his 1k Heal move you should be fine.

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    Re: ToAU44

    Paladin wearing earth staff, jelly/defending, and an etheral earring can pretty much solo support themselves, especially if they have chivalry. Beat this fight twice now. Best advice I can give is for the tank to stand in front, and not to the sides. It will make a world of a difference when it comes to him using his healing tp move.

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    We went RDM WHM BRD BLM MNK BLU. Our full AF2 MNK tanked good and survived till 48% where we decided to wipe. Then after weakness we finished it.

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    Re: ToAU44

    Thunder seemed perfectly fine too, he seems to have a cut in magic damaage like wyrms and what not, but less severe (I tried Blizzard a few times, but Thunder was still out-performing it when I didn't get resisted, and I didnt get resisted often) I think Burst 2 usually did about ~700dmg and Thunder4 ~550dmg. The healing move is also erase, you can stick burn/choke/shock on it, but it's decently resistant (about 50% of them were resisted), but of course they wear right after the Gospel Light move. You can stun it fairly easily as BLM (no resists at all), but when I tried it on BLU head butt rarely proc'd can't think of much else besides Drain/Aspir sucked

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    Re: ToAU44

    did anyone else think the story seemed way too rushed? i was quite dissappointed in the lack of more luzaf awesomeness and a bit more elaboration on odin..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpoemer
    did anyone else think the story seemed way too rushed? i was quite dissappointed in the lack of more luzaf awesomeness and a bit more elaboration on odin..
    Who's to say it's completely over?

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    Re: ToAU44

    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia
    Quote Originally Posted by Helpoemer
    did anyone else think the story seemed way too rushed? i was quite dissappointed in the lack of more luzaf awesomeness and a bit more elaboration on odin..
    Who's to say it's completely over?
    Square enix did say it was the finale. While we will probably get something else, the Ragnarok part is still going to feel a bit rushed

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    Re: ToAU44

    proto alexander can I has its

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    Went PLD SAM SAM WHM RDM BLM. Post Patch SAM destroys it. At 21% both SAMs 2hr'd and it went to 1% and then I died before getting my 3rd WS off. The BLM finished it off at 1%.

    We had a messy start as the SAMs continually took hate and dying/killing others. Once we got going again we figured out where everyone was to stand to not mpk each other. Third Eye <3 on this. I anticipated a ton of its attacks saving my ass and my WHM and RDMs mp pool. Make sure you let the PLD get good hate before going WS nuts on it as we found out lol. The post patch SAMs easily take hate with 1 WS if they aren't careful.

    Anyway first time win with about 30 secs on the clock due to our mid fight wipe and rest to full lol.

    <3 the final cutscenes altho I do kinda wish there had been more Odin etc.

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    I beat this today with MNK MNK DRG WHM RDM BLM.

    The MNK's Formless Strikes and the BLM nukes down BLU's first form. Second form melee him down, third form everyone fights. The DRG died to a badly timed Provoke + Eyes on Me during Azure Lore.

    Rest up, MNKs engage first form of boss while DRG waits for weakness. MNKs tank from opposite sides.

    Second form, same deal. The DRG got hit by pretty much all of the AoE attacks and was a MP sponge :X. After about 5-10 minutes he hits 47% and Divine Judgements. The MNKs are still standing but the mages have died, so we all back off and wipe away from boss.

    Rest up, engage again, after 5 minutes he hits 20% and both MNKs use hundred fists. He went down to 3% within 1 minute afterwards. and then Burst II for the kill Never hit the 10 minute warning.

    (1/11 on this)

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    Did this last week, but SMN using Diabolos is ftw, 500 damage Nether Blasts without fail, and from what I'm told, Ruinous Omen actually does 1500+ at the start of the fight, although we didn't try that.

    Also funny was that just like the CoP last boss, my EES was the killshot. :D I think I will make a point of finishing the WotG missions that way too!

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    cleared it saturday 1/1 with whm rdm brd nin drg pup

    made a point of killing first blu with magic so we could just melee the other two, rdm+blmpup nuking, ninja using elemental:ni - went down pretty quick.

    watch for azure lore on 2 and 3, can hit for 1400+ eyes on me. (we slept the third, second we didn't sleep - killed tank. drg finished that round then we slept the 3rd til nin was unweakened)

    treated the final boss just like a wyrm, tanked the feet - nin had 1600 HP and took a final judgement just fine at 50% (no different than a citadel buster really, just have enough hp)

    5% final judgment seems to have a larger range ; I was missed by the first but the second killed me.(whm) we basically wiped with it at 2% due to Judgment with about 10 minutes left, recovered and mijin+nuked it dead with about 5 minutes to spare.

    didn't really have mp issues. but rdm+brd+whm shouldn't ever have mp issues anyway, honestly. pup regretted not coming summoner but being able to switch frames around during the fight was pretty useful, and it was nice to see pup in action on a 'boss' fight.

    mega does aggro, sneak range - so you'll need tractor to recover (it works in this fight. we had to use it once)

    tl;dr: have a plan for how you're going to kill the three blu forms, bring an hnm level tank (at least hp-wise) and make sure a couple back line type people have tractor to pull your dead DD's out of aggro range if you end up having a partial/full wipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helpoemer
    did anyone else think the story seemed way too rushed? i was quite dissappointed in the lack of more luzaf awesomeness and a bit more elaboration on odin..
    Imo, the story was nearly perfect, but they left out some potential awesome. There should have been two more cutscenes (or maybe an extra battle with Naji/Bastok and against maybe Medusa or similar enemy).

    I would have loved it if they cut to Naja's progress of saving Luzaf, it could have been her, her bitch, a bunch of mercenaries, and Luzaf fighting off a shitload of immortals. Things begin to look bad, so Naja tells Luzaf to run and find "me"(the character), which causes him to appear at the last second of the missions without anyone else, like he did. Then they could have Naja be saved by the people who were at the empress' second crowning.

    Another cutscene could have been to show Razfahd being more sympathetic, which I think he was suppose to be, and Raubahn being eviler. It could Razfahd showing his doubts about the whole deal and Raubahn, at first humbly, reassuring he is doing the right thing with Alexander.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    Quote Originally Posted by Helpoemer
    did anyone else think the story seemed way too rushed? i was quite dissappointed in the lack of more luzaf awesomeness and a bit more elaboration on odin..
    Imo, the story was nearly perfect, but they left out some potential awesome. There should have been two more cutscenes (or maybe an extra battle with Naji/Bastok and against maybe Medusa or similar enemy).

    I would have loved it if they cut to Naja's progress of saving Luzaf, it could have been her, her bitch, a bunch of mercenaries, and Luzaf fighting off a shitload of immortals. Things begin to look bad, so Naja tells Luzaf to run and find "me"(the character), which causes him to appear at the last second of the missions without anyone else, like he did. Then they could have Naja be saved by the people who were at the empress' second crowning.

    Another cutscene could have been to show Razfahd being more sympathetic, which I think he was suppose to be, and Raubahn being eviler. It could Razfahd showing his doubts about the whole deal and Raubahn, at first humbly, reassuring he is doing the right thing with Alexander.
    I actually don't think Raubahn is really cut out for the "evil" position. Yes, he ruthlessly murders Amnaf, but in his defense, Amnaf lost her humanity. Following the same basic story of the BLU AF quests, there was really nothing he could have done except kill her once she is that far gone. Your own character does much the same thing in the quests. To me, Raubahn is just obsessed with power, his own, and others'. Whoever holds the power over the Empire, he will follow, though he may or may not agree with their methods. He seeks to "devour" you (the character) because of his personal search for power, not because of any grudge, or even because you're a threat to The Empire.

    I, being the Amnaf fan I am, would have liked to have seen more of the hinted "relationship" between she and Razfahd. Or rather, a one-sided adoration, perhaps? At the start, Amnaf started out blindly loyal, and you don't really understand why she remains so until her final moments. True, she says the Immortals saved her, but would her loyalty be more to Raubahn, and his own ideals, in this case? While it plays no part in the main plot, just having it as more of a hinted subplot to thicken her character would have been nice.

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    Oh yeah, more details on Amnaf would be nice! But I still say Razfahd should have had a more sympathetic cutscene thrown in there. The final cutscenes with him were awesome with the whole "I don't care what history thinks of me, I want to do what's best for Aht Urhgan".

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    Raubahn being more evil would've been weird, since he appears in a lot of separate quests/assaults.

    Razfahd being more sympethetic would've been cool, as he's not quite Kam/Eald/Nag. (And not just because he's not a fag.)
    Perhaps they can do more of those "alternate/extended scenes" (at least I remember there being an extended scene via the CS BRD, where Trion realizes that Gessho is a Tengu, unless that was always there).

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    Was I the only one who was hoping for another airship battle against a huge Alexander? >_> That would have been epic. Fly around him, stop to beat a part of the huge golem, then move to 2nd part.

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    Re: ToAU44

    we did THF/NIN(me), RDM/DRK, RDM/DRK, BLM/WHM, WAR/NIN, RDM/WHM

    It was fun

    Tanked from behind, WAR died @80% so i solo tanked from 80->20, then the war came back and we finished him off.

    RDM /dark for stuns, but not CS stun. They also cure and nuke

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