Rampage

[Jizzle]

which is better to macro in for rampage> more str or more acc. if u have more acc i assume ull hit all 5 hits more often but if less acc and mroe str ull hit less but hit more for whatevr u hit. Im thinking acc. someoen help me plz lol

[Jackyl]

75 rng asking this question..

[Gippo]

macro in enough acc gear to land your hits, when you can consistently hit for a tp return of 16-17 , start swapping out acc gear and pile on the STR

when i played war, i'd switch out
turban for ohat gain 10
dusk gloves for afhands <-- lol
2 snipers for 2 ruby lose 10
dusk feet for taru rse

haub 10 + chiv chain 5 + 10 - 25 and i'd almost never miss.

remember, where you exp makes a difference, so does the food you use.

mire - meat build, mamook - sushi build

[Scorp]

75 rng asking this question..

Welcome to ToAU

If you aren't getting a tp return of 5 hits then worry about more accuracy, if you are then carefully change some more str in.

Your 5 hit tp will range from 15-18% tp depending on rajas and weapons.

[Ste_S]

Resurecting the topic for a question about accuracy and mobs evasion. How reliable a guide is the monster's con to determine if I have enough +acc equipment for rampage ?

If it checks as low eva, can I get away with macro'ing +acc equip out while macro'ing +str equip in as long as the mob stays as low eva ?

[Burginator]

Resurecting the topic for a question about accuracy and mobs evasion. How reliable a guide is the monster's con to determine if I have enough +acc equipment for rampage ?

If it checks as low eva, can I get away with macro'ing +acc equip out while macro'ing +str equip in as long as the mob stays as low eva ?

/c is completely useless, imo. Landing consistently high rampages is mostly a "feel" kind of thing for me, at least. If I'm not consistently hitting 18-20% TP (5 hits and DA returns) then I will usually change one of the things I'm swapping. I actually don't take off any accuracy on my rampage, I actually use more than in DoT.

Main/Sub: Woodville/Maneater
Ammo: Core
Head: Walahra/ Hecatomb/ Ohat (Only for Lurkers)
Neck: Temperance Torque
Ear1/2: Brutal/Suppa, Brutal/Minuet on WS.
Body: Hauby
Hands: Dusk/Pallas
Ring1/2: Sniper/Rajas
Back: Ame+1
Waist: Swift Belt/Warrior's Stone
Legs: Haidate
Feet: Dusk/Hecatomb

I almost always use meat, and the gear I just put out there usually gives me very solid results. I have 8/8 axe merits, and am not a Ranger, however. On RNG, your Rampage will always suck.

[Alistaire]

75 rng asking this question..

Hey, it could be for a rng going to Jailer of Temperance for when it's in slashing mode. Or he could be at that Temperance for the torque to make his rampages better on other mobs.

There should be a smiley to represent necrobumps.

[Ste_S]

Resurecting the topic for a question about accuracy and mobs evasion. How reliable a guide is the monster's con to determine if I have enough +acc equipment for rampage ?

If it checks as low eva, can I get away with macro'ing +acc equip out while macro'ing +str equip in as long as the mob stays as low eva ?

/c is completely useless, imo. Landing consistently high rampages is mostly a "feel" kind of thing for me, at least. If I'm not consistently hitting 18-20% TP (5 hits and DA returns) then I will usually change one of the things I'm swapping. I actually don't take off any accuracy on my rampage, I actually use more than in DoT.

Thanks. Just to clarify things a bit, I'm a 67 Bst. I have plenty of acc for em/t solo xp, and was really wondering for those rare times when someone is daft enough to invite me to a xp party :wink:

Do most War's just load up on acc and eat sushi pre 75 ?

[Rasantath]

Thanks. Just to clarify things a bit, I'm a 67 Bst. I have plenty of acc for em/t solo xp, and was really wondering for those rare times when someone is daft enough to invite me to a xp party :wink:

Do most War's just load up on acc and eat sushi pre 75 ?

pretty much. i can call both sides of that situation, being both bst and war. you eventually reach a point using GA on war where you can use meat due to the acc in your gear, and the 2h weapon fixes, but for bst (and even war most of the time) using 1h axes you will be using sushi.

[Grey Jorildyn]

I used to wonder this just the same and I went with macro'ing in "just enough" accuracy to land the main hits, but recently I've begun to ponder just how many double attacked hits I've also been missing...

I use a lot of accuracy on my rampages, then fill in attack/str where I can fit it. my ideal setup would look like this. added some alternatives that i used to use until i got the rest:

head: ares's mask
neck: temperance torque
ear1: assault earring
ear2: brutal earring
body: adaman hauberk (still using hauby+1)
hands: ares's gauntlets (still using heca atm)
ring1: sniper's+1
ring2: ulthalam's/sniper's+1
back: forager's/amemet+1
waist: warrior's stone/potent belt/life belt
legs: heca/byakko's
feet: ares's sollerets (still using heca atm)

Naturally, this is for a warrior, since you didn't specify job. Double Attacks and critical hits on Rampage add up to a lot more damage over time than packing on only atk/str and having "just enough" accuracy to land a 16% return consistently. 'tis what i've noticed anyway when you're talking about a 5-hit weapon skill like this.

Just my two cents.

ps: lolrampageRNG

[Ferien]

Thanks. Just to clarify things a bit, I'm a 67 Bst. I have plenty of acc for em/t solo xp, and was really wondering for those rare times when someone is daft enough to invite me to a xp party :wink:

Do most War's just load up on acc and eat sushi pre 75 ?

pretty much. i can call both sides of that situation, being both bst and war. you eventually reach a point using GA on war where you can use meat due to the acc in your gear, and the 2h weapon fixes, but for bst (and even war most of the time) using 1h axes you will be using sushi.

I was generally able to eat meat with swords pre-75 (full merits from PLD before I leveled WAR, same or better skill than axes until ~70), but I generally asked for a Madrigal from the BRD. Always felt that 1 Madrigal w/ meat worked better than sushi and a Minuet, but as always it depends on your gear setup, the mob, and the rest of the party.

However, WAR has Aggressor. As BST, I'd say just go for the accuracy. If you really want to tweak it, parse yourself and check out what your accuracy is with and without sushi.

[MarkM.]

As someone who has bst leveled and not war, Rampage is random as shit. My set up for melee is as follows @ 75

Head: Walmart Turban
Body Hauby/Hauberk
Hands: Pallas (yes I know -dex)
Rings: Snipers/Woodsman
Earrings: Cassie/Brutal
Belt: I would suggest to macro in Potent belt for the Str. and the Acc., the BST relic belt is nice too for acc and -enm if you are soloing and are lucky enough to have it. I normally tp in a swiftbelt
Legs: Byakko Hadiates (love having the top 3 attendance in my ls each month)
Feet: Marine M Boots (this will vary greatly depending on what race your char is)
Neck: PCC/Temperance for neck. Sea gorget is a nice piece to macro in also.
Back: Ammet +1
Axes: Main hand- Maneater
Offhand: temperance or juggy, if you are fortunate enough to have one. Woody is nice too.



I normally use tuna sushi (+chr) if I am soloing, and attack food if I am lucky enough to do something in a pt.
There are better pieces to put in different slots, but I am main rdm, so all my reward rings/earrings are geared more towards my rdm. Also, some of the nyzul isle pieces are really nice for bst if u have access to them and have a way to offset some of then +enmity that goes along with them. I would say that the askar head is hands down the best head piece for bst to tp in. I normally get about a 14-16% tp return with this set up. Hope this helps you out some. And pre-70 I was avging about a 10-12% tp return with sushi and acc gear.

[Seditedi]

You WS in a Turban? >.>
You are a BST go solo Hakutaku lol.

[Bakthi]

Or just buy a Wyvern Helm; at least that has relevant stats, and you get to look scary.

[Seditedi]

O yeah, forgot BST can use that helm lol.

[Akucaen]

75 rng asking this question..

Welcome to ToAU

If you aren't getting a tp return of 5 hits then worry about more accuracy, if you are then carefully change some more str in.

Your 5 hit tp will range from 15-18% tp depending on rajas and weapons.

I think you were wooshed. RNG has +40-something Accuracy Bonus after 70.

[Seditedi]

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Accuracy Bonus doesn't matter much, the reason why RNG rampage would suck compared to WAR is because of an axe skill of 240
edit: and lack of JAs such as Aggressor.

[Seditedi]

oops double post