Azure Experiments

[TacoTaru]

My group has 8 assaults left and then we're at Captain, and I'm wanting to start working on Divisor Rings. I'm trying to figure out how to do this with 3 ppl. The jobs we have are:

NIN, SAM, WAR

THF, BRD, PLD

WHM, RDM, BLM

Since we'll be doing it with 3 and the BLM Lamiae can't be silenced, I was thinking NIN/DRK, THF/NIN and RDM/WHM; however, it's been a long time since I've done this and I can't remember how hard this assault really is >_>. I also considered SAM/WAR, BRD/WHM and RDM/WHM, but I'm not sure if one DD can take them out fast enough to clear in time.
Are the other Lamiae easily slept/lullabied if linked? If not, do they go down easy?

[BlackMoomba]

I've done this assault many times Mnk/nin, Blu/nin and Rdm/whm. It's a really easy assault. Main thing is, just don't get links on your pulls and you should be fine, and make sure your DDs aren't stupid and know how to shadow tank to avoid mp sink.

[Weeks]

I've done it with the first setup. Honestly, I think you're better off NIN/WAR and simply taking the -ga's when you don't get lucky enough to interrupt. They don't hit that hard. That THF is simply not very useful and it's entirely possible you'll lose with that setup, so I'd suggest SAM, PLD (Maybe subbing DRK), RDM as the possibility least likely to lose (But you'll need a PLD well-geared for DD).

The lamiae seem to have a bit of sleep resistance, as my usual RDM occasionally got resists. Bind works okay when sleep does not though. They don't die especially quickly and they tend to go through shadows pretty quickly since the COR can't be slowed and the RNG always takes a shadow with /ra, but my usual trio was NIN, SAM, RDM and we've never been in danger of a wipe despite my reckless pulling.

[Cream Soda]

3 is very doable but can be risky if you get a link or something. Shout for a 4th. Will go much smoother.

[Meat]

^ if you're doing it for a ring and not points pick up a 4th

[Vail]

^ if you're doing it for a ring and not points pick up a 4th

yeah cause people want an extra person looting for the ring?

use to do this with nin/war drk/war rdm/whm, pretty easy

with what you have: I'd use nin/drk thf/nin rdm/whm
thf can do the pulls with range, if you get a link, just have the thf flee and run a good distance (they do deaggro pretty easy) but keep in mind they'll path back to their camps, so if you do this make sure the nin and rdm aren't in the path that they'll back track on (not sure but: I think hide might even work too) none of them are sleepable
a rdm can easily blink/stoneskin hold a rng lamia with little/no trouble and bind works good on all 3.

thf should do just fine damage and with how often thfs attack they tend to have a good chance to interupt enemy casting: also the lamia are only EM-T if my memory serves me right. so a properly equiped DD thf should be more then adequate damage

[Weeks]

The buff where you lose half of your attack will hurt any trio, but it will absolutely kill NIN and THF (On NIN, I hit for 0 to single digits with full STR and katana merits and exceptional gear). The one with double attack but massive slow would also be brutal for NIN and THF, and SAM's job abilities come in incredibly handy for it.

[Vail]

The buff where you lose half of your attack will hurt any trio, but it will absolutely kill NIN and THF (On NIN, I hit for 0 to single digits with full STR and katana merits and exceptional gear). The one with double attack but massive slow would also be brutal for NIN and THF, and SAM's job abilities come in incredibly handy for it.

hitting for 0 dmg is a lack of attack issue: it has nothing to do with the weapon's base damage. Also thf has one of the nicer additional effect damage weapons that would greatly help to offset the half attack (Sirocco Kukri)

Also with a thf you can have 2 minute feint (the lamia do have fairly good evasion, from what I've heard) so with feint you can both eat meat with little issue, so bottoming out on attack should be less of an issue.

accually with the 1/2 attack "buff" I think a thf would preform fairly well compared to many other melees: based on SA (or TA) Shark Bite forcing crit (+1.0 pdif)

as a 75nin, yeah not much can do when your attack is bottomed out unless you wanna use the wheel....

[jurjur]

i did it with nin brd whm and it was fine.
it fucking sucks when you get optical or goob tissue.... hitting for single digits on nin or having weakened timers and swinging once every minute in full haste gear + double march and haste really sucks too...

[Almalexia]

Take SAM, THF, RDM. Closing an SC on these things with Hagun and capped Overwhelm is ass-broken, especially with goob tissue, and SCs speed up kills while under the effect of the dragonfly optical garbage.

[Neosutra]

Dont expect a divosor ring in the first 100 or so times you do this.

[Shuemue]

0/50+ here, ran this assault for weeks.

Forget a 4th, it's not difficult really. I'd sam/thf/rdm, my group used to go war/mnk/rdm or war/mnk/brd, much easier with a rdm imo.

[Slott]

Hide works if you get an add. We used to do THF / RDM / BLM and never had much issue.

[fndragon]

I've done this 114 times as a trio of RDM BLU THF. 0 Divisor Rings.
I've also uploaded a run to youtube. Just search for "Azure Experiments", you'll find it.

For the love of god, do something else with your time. 114 runs. I'm not kidding. Still no rings.

[Kyreth]

My group has 8 assaults left and then we're at Captain, and I'm wanting to start working on Divisor Rings. I'm trying to figure out how to do this with 3 ppl. The jobs we have are:

NIN, SAM, WAR

THF, BRD, PLD

WHM, RDM, BLM

Since we'll be doing it with 3 and the BLM Lamiae can't be silenced, I was thinking NIN/DRK, THF/NIN and RDM/WHM; however, it's been a long time since I've done this and I can't remember how hard this assault really is >_>. I also considered SAM/WAR, BRD/WHM and RDM/WHM, but I'm not sure if one DD can take them out fast enough to clear in time.
Are the other Lamiae easily slept/lullabied if linked? If not, do they go down easy?

Stuns are indeed your friends. Status effects aren't too big of a pain in the butt here, you can pull them separately, and if need be you can ESeal a sleep and/or kite a Lamia. Raptor tissue makes kiting stupid easy(if you get it) or you can just Gravity-kite one. There's only 2-3 mobs per group, after all and they go down pretty easy. Long as you stun out the -aga spells on the BLM, the rest is pretty much cake. Just don't all stand in one spot for the initial aggro. Sleepga II -> -aga spell is pain if it happens.

[Alistaire]

If you're doing it as a static you might consider seeing if the thf/brd/pld can level a good dd to 50 and just do it @ 50 cap.

And yeah, the other lamia will sleep, only the blm won't. One of the other 2 is completely immune to slow as well. I forget if the 3rd has some other random immunity.

[Neosutra]

I've done this 114 times as a trio of RDM BLU THF. 0 Divisor Rings.
I've also uploaded a run to youtube. Just search for "Azure Experiments", you'll find it.

For the love of god, do something else with your time. 114 runs. I'm not kidding. Still no rings.

Yep, the ring is HIGHLY overated as well. One more acc than a NQ sniper with 3 more attack? You could spend 1/10th of the time farming gil for a snipers+1 (or just use a damned ulthamas(sp)).

[Thorny]

I did it a few times dualboxing NIN + RDM with a BLM(who was 72 at the time, no less) and didn't have problems. As far as appraisal rates, I'll be wasting my tags on Stop The Bloodshed instead, considering it's still up for debate that divisor is even better than sniper+1. 0/71 and counting!

[Meat]

yeah cause people want an extra person looting for the ring?

use to do this with nin/war drk/war rdm/whm, pretty easy

with what you have: I'd use nin/drk thf/nin rdm/whm
thf can do the pulls with range, if you get a link, just have the thf flee and run a good distance (they do deaggro pretty easy) but keep in mind they'll path back to their camps, so if you do this make sure the nin and rdm aren't in the path that they'll back track on (not sure but: I think hide might even work too) none of them are sleepable
a rdm can easily blink/stoneskin hold a rng lamia with little/no trouble and bind works good on all 3.

thf should do just fine damage and with how often thfs attack they tend to have a good chance to interupt enemy casting: also the lamia are only EM-T if my memory serves me right. so a properly equiped DD thf should be more then adequate damage

Not everyone's after the ring, the ring is sorta meh.
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Ataractic_Solea

[TacoTaru]

Yep, the ring is HIGHLY overated as well. One more acc than a NQ sniper with 3 more attack? You could spend 1/10th of the time farming gil for a snipers+1 (or just use a damned ulthamas(sp)).

The thing is, once we get captain we have nothing else to use assault for other than appraisal spamming. We could pick Nyzul back up, but we're really not that interested/concerned in finishing that atm since we only need 1 Goliard feet, 1 Askar head, and 1 Denali head, and the last two go to the same person (who is also the person with the 100 disc).
Long or not, we'd just like to use assault to build some points while going after something pretty good in the process.