Samurai Back Gear

[thelastninja]

Just wondering, should I be using a forager's mantle, cerberus mantle +1, or cuchulain's mantle for my 75 sam. Thanks for the help.

[happydude]

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/78671-whats-better.html

[meeeeeep]

The other gear you're using helps too, you know.

Also, the obligatory shit is situational.

[Raen Ryong]

Acc capped?

Yes => Cerb +1.
No => Cuchulain's.

[The One]

Sorry mind if i ask. Wats the cap acc for sam?

[mcb]

ugh acc caps at 95% for all jobs and all weapons....

[Yugl]

407 ACC for Colibri and 420-440 is good for other mobs. Pizza is a good means of capping ACC against other mobs (But this depends on gear).

[Cless]

Acc capped?

Yes => Cerb +1/Foragers.
No => Cuchulain's.

Pretty much what Raen said, and for Y/G/K Smilodon +1/Cuch/Cerb+1 are all really good.

[Theraven]

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/72706...ns-mantle.html

[ringthree]

407 ACC for Colibri and 420-440 is good for other mobs. Pizza is a good means of capping ACC against other mobs (But this depends on gear).

How did you come up with the number of 420-440 for "other" mobs, and what "other" mobs are you talking about? Like other XP mobs? NM, HNM or Salvage bosses?

Just trying to get an idea for what I should aim for on harder mobs. Don't really care about XP mobs at all (this is probably obvious by now LOL).

[Drace]

Probably means Mamool Camp + Troll camp (main meripo camps/ mobs) where 440 would cap you on every mob at these camps other than THF's and Troll PUPs (and technically highest level NIN Mamool but thats ~448 to cap). That covers most of the mobs from Ein/Salvage/NI etc other than bosses as well.

[Yugl]

How did you come up with the number of 420-440 for "other" mobs, and what "other" mobs are you talking about? Like other XP mobs? NM, HNM or Salvage bosses?

Just trying to get an idea for what I should aim for on harder mobs. Don't really care about XP mobs at all (this is probably obvious by now LOL).

I asked this question in the Randomest Question thread (What is decent ACC), and the response was that on most reasonable mobs like Einherjar/Apollyon/Salvage/TP-Burn like/Some HNM mobs, you'll cap ACC at 420-440 ACC. Of course there are exceptions like Chigoes and THF mamools, but stuff like those caps at 506ish ACC.

Edit: This is when you include Pizza, so for most mobs, you would be good with 400 Base (No Pizza) ACC. Though this would be overkill for *many* mobs that cap out at 420 or so.

[Khajit]

420 supposedly caps mamool ja before warm up(not counting nins and thf of course)

[Argettio]

I asked this question in the Randomest Question thread (What is decent ACC), and the response was that on most reasonable mobs like Einherjar/Apollyon/Salvage/TP-Burn like/Some HNM mobs, you'll cap ACC at 420-440 ACC. Of course there are exceptions like Chigoes and THF mamools, but stuff like those caps at 506ish ACC.

Good info, I asked something similar a while ago but didn't get a good answer.

[Ratatapa]

Well i just learned that i dont need cush mantle for sam cuz i'm capped! (after merits )

well i could still use cuch for HNM i guess cuz i'm sure HNM caps higher then merits

[Baelorn]

Well i just learned that i dont need cush mantle for sam cuz i'm capped! (after merits )

Well, for Polearm it's still the best even with 8 merits and +51 Acc from other gear(not including mantle).

[Ratatapa]

well yeah but i mean i'm regearing my SAM atm, and for GKT i wont need it exept for some HNM maybe.

Polearm i'm aware, but i need to skill it up first

Also can some people give the evasion of Seiryu + suzaku if you have em?. All i got is their lv

Thx

[Raikku]

Cerb+1