Can anyone translate chinese?

[Vacht]

China wants to take a number two on america.

http://freeman2.com/9008si18.htm

2003-03-30-20-58 start
This page http://freeman2.com/9008si18.htm has all anti-U.S.A. paper which Freeman collected from mainland China sites. After reading, Freeman wrote
"Number two's strategy; Discuss Anti-U.S.A."
In the world, U.S.A. is number one in terms of national strength. If number two in the world want to compete number one seat with U.S. Then number two need to start cold war or hot war with number one. The final result is both number one and number two weaken and drop to number eight and number nine. Old number three become new number one.
Alternatively, number two play plot which weaken number one and not change number two's national strength. This strategy which bring number two to number one is called "Number two's strategy". For "Number two's strategy" be success, China must pay dear price, possibly become extinct from the planet earth! Freeman wrote "Number two's strategy; Discuss Anti-U.S.A." target at Chinese reader. If you want read this paper,
http://freeman2.com/9008si18.htm#NUMBER2
you need to find someone to translate for you.
Freeman 2003-03-30-21-19.

[BadKarma]

arent there like 50 different dialects ?

[Vacht]

arent there like 50 different dialects ?

Probably. Maybe i should contact an rmt site!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The_OG_Nelta]

2 really. Simplified and Traditional.

Wtf do you want me to translate

[Plow]

2 really. Simplified and Traditional.

Wtf do you want me to translate

http://freeman2.com/9008si18.htm#NUMBER2

I think that

[Cochise]

Translation: Propaganda using armies of human waves to overthrow the the world powers to return China as number 1.... loosely

and various other unintelligible rants...

just drop the link in google search and find the translate this page button.

[wop]

Or use babelfish.

[Meian]

Or use babelfish.

Google translate gives me better results usually

[Kaelan?]

2 really. Simplified and Traditional.

Wtf do you want me to translate

Is that equivalent to Mandarin and Cantonese?

[Atreides]

no, Traditional Characters (still used in Taiwan/Hong Kong/Macao) are the set of characters used from around the early 1900s onward. In the 1960s an effort was made to simplify the most complex 8000 or so characters or portions of characters, this system is used in mainland China and Singapore.

Theoretically written Chinese should be universal between dialects, someone who speaks Cantonese (Yue dialect) or Shanghainese (Wu dialect) or standard Mandarin should be able to pick up a paper and read it with just different pronunciations, but there are several characters that represent sounds not present in other dialects, or slight grammatical differences. That being said, spoken chinese dialects are often mutually unintelligible, someone speaking Cantonese would be understood by a Mandarin speaker about as well as French would be by someone who speaks Spanish.

However, most fluent readers of Chinese should be able to at least recognize and read both Simplified/Traditional characters with little trouble, but might not always be able to write them.

[Kilhart]

2 really. Simplified and Traditional.

Ehh.. those aren't dialects though. Dialects would be Mando (and all its variants), Canto, Shanghainese, Wenzhounese, etc... not that dialect really matters much in written language.

[SephYuyX]

Theoretically written Chinese should be universal between dialects, someone who speaks Cantonese (Yue dialect) or Shanghainese (Wu dialect) or standard Mandarin should be able to pick up a paper and read it with just different pronunciations, but there are several characters that represent sounds not present in other dialects, or slight grammatical differences. That being said, spoken chinese dialects are often mutually unintelligible, someone speaking Cantonese would be understood by a Mandarin speaker about as well as French would be by someone who speaks Spanish.

Simplified:
Everyone in the world knows what this is
http://co2calculator.files.wordpress...ing-cow-1b.jpg
But it's pronounced and spelled differently, however the picture never changes. A cow is a cow is a cow.

The same is with the chinese characters, japanese kanji, korean hanji, and the vietnamese han tu. Theyre all the same, and stem from the same origin (chinese).

火 means fire in all of those langauges, however when spoken in said langauges, it's different.

[Yugl]

Simplified:
Everyone in the world knows what this is
http://co2calculator.files.wordpress...ing-cow-1b.jpg
But it's pronounced and spelled differently, however the picture never changes. A cow is a cow is a cow.

The same is with the chinese characters, japanese kanji, korean hanji, and the vietnamese han tu. Theyre all the same, and stem from the same origin (chinese).

火 means fire in all of those langauges, however when spoken in said langauges, it's different.

Not quite. There is a distinction between traditional and simplified characters.

[Weiing]

I think they should stop being lazy and go back to traditional Chinese. It's more aesthetically pleasing. then again, I'm Taiwanese... so I'm biased :D

[SephYuyX]

Not quite. There is a distinction between traditional and simplified characters.

Ill be honest, I studied Japanese and general Asianness, not Chinese, but what I was getting at is that if you showed 火 to all the Chinese, they would know what it means. Yes?

[aznmajiktaru]

for simple words, yea. I started out learning traditional chinese back when I still lived in hong kong then I tried to pick up writing it again in college but all they would teach was simplified and a lot of times it was confusing as fuck how they could simplify words to the point I couldn't recognize them lol.

[Weiing]

for simple words, yea. I started out learning traditional chinese back when I still lived in hong kong then I tried to pick up writing it again in college but all they would teach was simplified and a lot of times it was confusing as fuck how they could simplify words to the point I couldn't recognize them lol.

I agree..some of the simplified words I can read. But mostly, no ideaaaaa. I was helping my fiance with Chinese when he was learning it in college...but most of the time I couldn't help him with the words because I don't understand simplified Chinese.

[Kirbyprime]

I hate simplified... I understand why it was made but it's complete shit to try to convert back to traditional sometimes. Most of the time you can decipher what it is based on how it's written but sometimes it's just simplified to the point where you pretty much have to guess based on the rest of the sentence.

For comparison, if traditional is the word / phrase

- You're
- Be right back

then simplified would be

- ur
- brb

Sucks to read for anyone who doesn't use web lingo. <_<

[Yugl]

Ill be honest, I studied Japanese and general Asianness, not Chinese, but what I was getting at is that if you showed 火 to all the Chinese, they would know what it means. Yes?

Japanese uses traditional character. In fact, I think the character for kanji　漢字 is actually different in Chinese. If I remember correctly:

Everyone but China: Traditional
China: Simplified

[Weiing]

Actually, Japanese uses some simplified Chinese, such as the word for "school".