Firas' Islam Meccathread

[Faris]

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Spain Muslims outraged at Mecca discotheque

The inauguration of a discotheque called Mecca in Spain infuriated Muslims in the country and raised questions about the position of Muslim workers offered jobs in the controversial place.

After 10 years of renovations, an old discotheque in the city of Aguilas in the southwestern province of Murcia opened its doors on June 18 under the name La Meca amid protests from Muslim individuals and organizations, the Arab Spanish newspaper Andalus Press reported Wednesday.

A poll conducted after the inauguration of the discotheque revealed the indignation of Spanish Muslims who viewed the action as disrespectful and prejudiced.

Mohamed Ali, head of the Spanish Federation of Islamic Religious Entities (Federación Española de Entidades Religosas Islámicas- FEERI), said Mecca is the most venerated place for Muslims all over the world.

“Muslims pray towards Mecca and it is there that the prophet received the holy Quran,” he said in a statement. “Calling a place for dancing and drinking by that name shows disregard to the feelings of Muslims.”

The inauguration of La Meca raised questions about Muslims who work there. In fact, a Moroccan man rejected an offer to work in the discotheque in protest of the name.

“It is up to him to decide,” Ali added. “It depends on his financial situation and whether he has the option to work in other places.”

Founder of the Committee of Muslim Arbitration and Good Deeds Antonio García PetiteAntonio García Petite, founder of the Committee of Muslim Arbitration and Good Deeds (Comité de Arbitraje Musulmán y Buenas Prácticas), said that the name Mecca is usually used commercially to refer to a center or destination of a specific activity.

“Expressions like ‘the Mecca of cinema’ and ‘the Mecca of Jazz’… etc. are commonly used without any offence,” he said.

However, he added, it is inappropriate to call a discotheque by that name.

“A discotheque is for worldly pleasures and what takes place inside it, like drinking alcohol, is not in line with the principles of Islam.”

As for the Moroccan worker, Petite said that he acted in accordance with his religious beliefs.

“We do support him in that,” he concluded.

(Translated from the Arabic by Sonia Farid)
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[Blarg]

what is your opinion about it?

[Vigilia]

Topic name in relation to the article makes no sense, how's SPAIN hard on Islam in this particular instance?

How's it even news:
http://www.meccabingo.com/
has been around for years. One on the road to my husband's work just past a mosque.

[Orden]

The Muslims are overreacting. Except for the guy who refused the job, he was simply sticking to his principles.

[Hyan]

The Muslims are overreacting.

Yep.. so, where's the actual news?

[Orden]

Yep.. so, where's the actual news?

You're right...

[Faris]

its inappropriate to use such a theme (the whole decor is made in arabic style) and name of such a sacred place.
dont start with well, the spanish dont think its sacred..because your freedom ends when my freedom starts, isnt that a principle of freedom in the west?

this discussion has been raised before, going on insulting people doesnt count as freedom of expression/speech. its trespassing other people's boundries.

in any case, there are other news agent; tabloids that are stating that they actually changed the name already. but im not too sure.

[wop]

Maybe it's a conspiracy, to lure suicide bombers there! It's like a magnet for it no? lol

[Gunitsoldier]

La Meca VS Mecca

ITS NOT THE SAME

[Priran]

SPAIN: hard on Islam

this is spain being hard on islam:

Spoiler: show

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/8404/higueruela.jpg

this is muslims being whiny bitches:

The inauguration of a discotheque called Mecca in Spain infuriated Muslims

[Cantih]

its inappropriate to use such a theme (the whole decor is made in arabic style) and name of such a sacred place.

There are RIDICULOUS numbers of bands, writers, artists, etc. (some of whom are well known and rather popular) that make a living by mocking, desecrating, and generally being sacrilegious about [insert religion here], and while it does get the fundies panties in a twist, the rest of the population just fucking deals.

It's a boxy building, in the middle of a desert, that's associated with a man, that is no more special than a number of others throughout the history of the human race.

Now fix your fucking misleading thread title. One club owner != THE ENTIRETY OF SPAIN.

[ZarakiKujata]

Yep.. so, where's the actual news?

fuck beaten :\ but lol @ Firas and this entire thread.

Mecca is a very overused word and its time to untwist your panties Firas.

http://www.meccausa.com/ (Guess black ppl need to stop wearing their clothing?)
http://www.meccadance.com/ (Well I guess this is wrong for any # of reasons, women dancing in public in tight clothing etc.)
http://www.meccacosmetica.com.au/ (Wow this is sacrilege even worse then the last one; using the name of the Holy city to let whores plaster their faces?????)

Get the fuck over it you crybaby, our freedom is not impeding on your freedom to do anything. You can still worship Islam and hold your crazy shit sacred, oth when we uphold this ban you are trampling on our freedoms.

[Sepukku]

its inappropriate to use such a theme (the whole decor is made in arabic style) and name of such a sacred place.
dont start with well, the spanish dont think its sacred..because your freedom ends when my freedom starts, isnt that a principle of freedom in the west?

But its not sacred apparently to the owner. It may be sacred to you or Muslims, but its not sacred to everyone. Furthermore, its not the nation of Spain doing this it seems. Its an individual in Spain who owns and operates the venue and in western society, hes allowed to do that - you can make your business be called almost anything you want (aslong as it does not use derogatory language - and the name of a city is not derogatory). Its freedom - as in, hes free to make a business called Mecca and sell alcohol in it. If you wanted in western society, you can make a business with a Jewish name, like "The Synagogue" and sell pork in it. Its a free country, do [almost] whatever the fuck you want. Thats the beauty of freedom.

[Correction]

Muslims need to suck it up and realize that the world does not exist to make sure they are never offended by anything.

[Yuri-G]

you know, I for one think the owners should do the responsible thing and change the name. I mean, Muslims have always been respectful of other cultures. places like Iran, Saudia Arabia, and Egypt have always had nothing but the most positive attitudes toward Western values and I think Spain should take a cue from their example. if a Christian can live his life in Iran without feeling oppressed, a Muslim man in Spain should have the same right.

[Melchiah]

Firas, the western idea of cross-assuring freedom doesn't mean that one person's freedoms end where another's start. In America, Congress is prohibited from legislating for or against any particular church/faith. That's pretty much it. Under our Constitution, the Spanish club owner is exercising his First Amendment rights, but there is nothing that says you have the right to never be offended. It's a private business, using the name of a city. The name itself is not derogatory, and is used in an effort to complement the eastern theme of the establishment. No one is forcing anyone to patronize or work in the establishment. There is no infringement of anyone's freedoms here.

[Yuri-G]

Firas, the western idea of cross-assuring freedom doesn't mean that one person's freedoms end where another's start. In America, Congress is prohibited from legislating for or against any particular church/faith. That's pretty much it. Under our Constitution, the Spanish club owner is exercising his First Amendment rights, but there is nothing that says you have the right to never be offended. It's a private business, using the name of a city. The name itself is not derogatory, and is used in an effort to complement the eastern theme of the establishment. No one is forcing anyone to patronize or work in the establishment. There is no infringement of anyone's freedoms here.

wut

[Orden]

wut

Edit: *Self-Whoosh*

[Kuya]

its inappropriate to use such a theme (the whole decor is made in arabic style) and name of such a sacred place.
dont start with well, the spanish dont think its sacred..because your freedom ends when my freedom starts, isnt that a principle of freedom in the west?

this discussion has been raised before, going on insulting people doesnt count as freedom of expression/speech. its trespassing other people's boundries.

in any case, there are other news agent; tabloids that are stating that they actually changed the name already. but im not too sure.

Deal with it.

[Yuri-G]

I'm confused, is there also a First Amendment in Spain?