Combat SP "Base SP" Chart

[Kaeko]

With the help of some LS mates, I've been gathering "Base SP" values for various mobs in the game. I originally thought this would be an easy task, thinking that "Base SP" just based on the family of mob, but as it turns out, each mob family has its own base SP progression as they increase in rank. Because of this, I not only had to gather data from each family, but also at various levels until a trend was found. Here are the results so far:

Again this is a preliminary chart.

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1...hartprelim.png

Some boxes are only shaded, but with no number. This implies that I did not directly test a mob in this level range, but that I have made an educated guess of what the base SP would be (usually because there is a mob below and above it in level giving the same base SP).


Some notes:
- Includes only normal roaming mobs, excluding:
. - Quest mobs
. - Guildleve mobs
. - NM mobs
. - Mission mobs
- Base SP minimum is 50, maximum is 200
- Based on mob family with few exceptions:
. - Puks and Pterocs are separated
. - Aldgoat Billys and Nannygoats are separated
. - Diremite and Moldlings MAY be separated (unsure)
- Increases with level, but with no discernable pattern

The concept of "Base SP" is discussed here:
http://kanican.livejournal.com/51730.html

Comments or suggestions on color scheme and readability of the chart would be greatly appreciated. I want to make the eventual completed chart as eye-appealing as possible so color scheme and other stuff like that need to be good.

The ultimate usefulness of this will likely be determining the best camps in terms of solo, duo, light party, and full party play. Just eyeballing the early results, there are certainly a small subset of mob families that look best to SP off of. Though guildleve SP parties are still the best at this point in the game, this may change in the future. If normal SP parties ever become popular, I can see a completed chart being quite useful.

Finally, if anyone wants to help complete this chart, there are a ton of missing values still. Just let me know the Base SP (if you feel comfortable calculating it, otherwise the SP value and # of members in party are fine), the rank of the mob and player in question, and the mob name. Can post back to this thread directly. I marked a couple of the ones I'm really interested in with question marks.

[Celeras]

You the man.

Do leve mobs get a bonus off the same numbers? Cos I know Dunesfolk wolves are higher than 100. 125 iirc

[Kurokikaze]

Oh wow nice to have a chart with this info. Once again, great job dude.

[Kaeko]

You the man.

Do leve mobs get a bonus off the same numbers? Cos I know Dunesfolk wolves are higher than 100. 125 iirc

Leve mobs and Quest mobs are unique I think. Like you mentioned Dunesfolk has some 120s. I know the Eyes for one of the quests are 125 - weird numbers. I'll have to do those separately.

I think from the incomplete chart, it's pretty clear you want to level off the 150+ base mobs for party play. For solo play I can see the lower yield mobs being worthwhile depending on kill speed.

[Togison]

Here are a few more that can be added to the chart:
Amalj'aa 55-59 100SP, Kobold 55-59 100SP, Qiqirn 50-59 100SP, Sylph 40-44 100SP, Apkallu 50-54 75SP, Peiste 50-54 150SP

[Fiddle Sticks]

Long time lurker, first time poster.

I had to register just to thank you for this information! Thanks a bunch, will put this to good use!

[CrstyCptSteveWitherspoon]

Great info as usual! Needs a sticky so it doesn't get lost.

[Togison]

All 45-49 Beastmen mobs are base SP 150, Young Raptor(45-49) base SP 150, Ixali 40-49 base SP 150

[Sigmakan]

I dont think Kobolds are base 150. Killed some raptors and kobolds last night and got much less SP off of the Kobolds (despite the fact that they are pretty dam fiesty).

[Grey Jorildyn]

Those beastmen were a really nice addition for grinders. Just need those EXP chains back and I think grinding will be back in full force.

[Jakson]

Can anyone point me to these 35-39 Wights?

[Kaeko]

Can anyone point me to these 35-39 Wights?

I used the ones in basement of Mun-Tuy cellars for the testing. There are 2 big rooms of them, but I don't know the respawn time.

[Jakson]

Thanks!

[Jakson]

I'm not overly familiar with Mun-Tuy; Are there two maps, or is the basement just part of the only map?

Edit: Found them. In the circular room on the border between (5,3) and (5,4).

On my 29CON with 38 Physical level (does it matter? idk), I just got 826 XP and 331 SP from a 35 Wight.

[Purrrfect]

I just killed a few things outside humblehearth on my 25PGL for some numbers if you want them. First number is r25, second is after reaching r26.
31 Mun-Tuy Squirrel=139sp, 126sp
33 Mun-Tuy Squirrel=164sp
31 Opo-opo=166sp, 150sp
33 Opo-opo=195sp
34 Opo-opo=210sp
28 Ladybug=101sp
29 Ladybug=114sp

[Koopa_ITA]

Maidenbug @ Nanawa Mines have 63 Base SP.

[Koopa_ITA]

Drake 50-54 gives 150sp

EDIT: Peiste, non drake.

[Celeras]

Where are there R50 drakes?

[Koopa_ITA]

south-west from camp bluefog, (21-16) of Nothern Thanalan

[Celeras]

south-west from camp bluefog, (21-16) of Nothern Thanalan

There are nothing but Diremite and Piestes there. And I ran all over and can't find what youre talking about.