WAR Rampage gear

[Vistani]

What do you use/what do you think is ideal for Rampage @ 75? Mainly interested in legs, hands and ears, but any input is welcome into overall setup or whatever. Do you have a different setup when Berserk/Aggressor are down?

[Sheeny]

Head:
Hecatomb Cap STR+11 (Fafnir)
Unicorn Cap STR+4 (AH)

Neck:
Soil Gorget (Sea)
Chivalrous Chain STR+3 (AH)

Body:
Adaberk STR+10 (Nidhogg)
Hauberk STR+5 (AH)

Hands:
Alkyoneus Braclets STR+11 (AH)

Waist:
Warrior's Stone STR+5 (AF2)
Potent Belt STR+3 (AH)

Legs:
Warrior's Cuisses STR+5 (AF2)
Barbarossa Zerehs STR+4 (The Ashu Talif)
Exorcist Hose STR+3 (AH)

Feet:
Hecatomb Leggings STR+6 (Suzaku)
Unicorn Leggings STR+3 (AH)

Ear:
Brutal (ABC)
Fowling STR +1 (AH)
Triump STR+2 (AH)

Ring:
Flame Ring STR+5
Flame Ring STR+5

*Edited to expand beyond Legs/Hands/Ear

[Ravenlokk]

Depending on your other gear Minuet Earring is a good cheap alternative to triumph(Who the fuck rampages w/out minuets anyways lol)
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ex. Peacock Triumph or
10 ACC 2 STR
Chivalrous + Minuet
8 ACC 4 STR 1 DEX Defense, Store TP(win usually)

So you're trading 2 ACC for 2STR 1DEX and some other shit. Usually if you can trade 1 acc <--> 1 STR its a good upgrade.
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If you dont have axe merits, B. Haidate is actually quite good for rampage because if your acc suffers its better to use B. Haidate (7.x ACC + CRIT on WS) with a Flame Ring than it is to use AF2 Legs with a Sniper Ring. It also saves you a macro-slot to swap a different piece... If you use legit macros.

Alky is good, and affordable now- but im a DEX Whore, lol. I really like N Hands(+1 ^_^) because i don't like negative stats. I'd rather hit consistent "good" WS than spike from inconsistent accuracy.

Just my 2 cents, hope it helps a bit.

[careswww]

agreeing with above poster xcept a few points.
Heca +1 > Alkyoneus.
Heca+1: 8STR 5DEX, Alkyoneus: 11STR -6DEX
So you're trading 3 STR for 11 DEX .
Personally I prefer the accuracy from the DEX over the 3STR.

Ears: Brutal, and Minuet Earring, alternavely Assault, depends on your preferance I guess.

Legs: With me liking meat I tend to use byakko's haidate just because rampage whiffs a lot with meat, but I would consider using heca legs with both meat and sushi, simply because +20ATK is a lot and +9dex is a nice bonus.

Rings: I use toreadors+raja's full time.

[RKenshin]

Since when is Rampage modified by DEX?..

[Fng]

If we are going into neck armor why not soil gorget?

[careswww]

Last time I checked it has a STR25 DEX25 mod.
edit: Disregard that, checked it up and seems I confused it with :Jin or something.

[SephYuyX]

Last time I checked it has a STR25 DEX25 mod.

Rampage 0.50 5x STR_30% Critical Rate (Crits ?x Dam.)

[Vistani]

Ok just for a little more info my current gear is:

Maneater(or Jugg)/Ridill
Bomb Core
Heca Cap
Soil Gorget
Suppa/Brutal (Suppa simply because I don't have the macro space to macro out earrings, probably when I finish my WS set I'll switch to windower macros)
Adaman Hauberk
Fighter's Mufflers (lol >_>)
Flame/Rajas
Amemet +1
Warwolf Belt
Heca Sub
Heca Leggings +1

Mainly looking to improve on the hands/suppa and heca sub vs af2 vs haidate. I have 4 axe/8 sword merits.

[Rocl]

Since when is Rampage modified by DEX?..

Since the great warrior nerf of 191919.

[Ravenlokk]

Since when is Rampage modified by DEX?..

Its not direct mod XX%STAT -> DMG.

But i was under the impression that you can critical hit on any WS. And wouldn't your M.Crit rate influence your WS Crit rate? It was just an assumption- i could be totally off.

Edit Add: I don't really use gorgets, Not enough space >_<.
But you're right, thats probably better.

[SassiAsura]

Ok just for a little more info my current gear is:

Maneater(or Jugg)/Ridill
Bomb Core
Heca Cap
Soil Gorget
Suppa/Brutal (Suppa simply because I don't have the macro space to macro out earrings, probably when I finish my WS set I'll switch to windower macros)
Adaman Hauberk
Fighter's Mufflers (lol >_>)
Flame/Rajas
Amemet +1
Warwolf Belt
Heca Sub
Heca Leggings +1

Mainly looking to improve on the hands/suppa and heca sub vs af2 vs haidate. I have 4 axe/8 sword merits.

Go pop pallas or alky?

As for hands though. I know that people had reported that in alot of circumstances Okotes > AFv1+1 for blade Jin. I've been wondering if the AFv2 for war would be able to outperform something with 9str?

[Baha]

Since when is Rampage modified by DEX?..

I guess it goes somewhat along the line of Warrior's Cuisses vs Byakko's Haidate. 5 STR (and double attack, yesyes) vs 15 DEX
In this case 4 STR vs 10 DEX.

I haven't made my mind up on the matter, just using heca mittens because I happen to have them from THF, and I'm broke as hell. D:

[Keno]

Ok just for a little more info my current gear is:

Maneater(or Jugg)/Ridill
Bomb Core
Heca Cap
Soil Gorget
Suppa/Brutal (Suppa simply because I don't have the macro space to macro out earrings, probably when I finish my WS set I'll switch to windower macros)
Adaman Hauberk
Fighter's Mufflers (lol >_>)
Flame/Rajas
Amemet +1
Warwolf Belt
Heca Sub
Heca Leggings +1

Mainly looking to improve on the hands/suppa and heca sub vs af2 vs haidate. I have 4 axe/8 sword merits.

Go pop pallas or alky?

As for hands though. I know that people had reported that in alot of circumstances Okotes > AFv1+1 for blade Jin. I've been wondering if the AFv2 for war would be able to outperform something with 9str?

I believe the Okotes was better than NIN AF1+1 and/or Koga Hands (@night obviously) and/or other hand items with str/dex was because A.) the +attack was a much greater increase of overall attack, and a combination of other things that involve much math that I don't really understand. I think I heard something about you not being able to break a damage level or something or other. I dunno, I'm sure VZX will explain it a million times better than I.

[RKenshin]

To clarify I wasn't questioning whether or not Rampage damage could be improved by +DEX, just DEXs involvement as an actual WS modifier.

However, I'd still have to say that DEX does more for accuracy than anything else with Rampage. It's been proved that small improvements of DEX don't influence your actual critical hit-rate with melee attacks more than 1-2%, so really I wouldn't rely on equiping something with +DEX in hope of landing criticals much more often.

Anyway, again (third rampage thread!) my gear is typically as follows:

Ammo: Fire Bomblet
Head: Heca
Neck: Soil
Ear1: Brutal
Ear2: Triumph/Vampire/Assault/Minuet
Body: Adaman
Hands: Alky or Adaman
Ring1: Rajas or HQ Sniper
Ring2: Mars
Back: Foragers
Waist: WAR stone
Legs: AF2 or Byakko's
Feet: Heca

Which gear I use varies depending on the food and songs (with meat I'll lean towards more acc from the above choices, and with sushi I'll lean towards more STR/attack). But, generally after a lot of tweeking the above set of options has given me the best results. I'm always flopping around changes with Ear2 though, not really any earrings there that make much of a difference so I just mess around with it more often than not.

Averages are usually about 700-850 with sushi and no bard, 800-950 with sushi and a BRD, 900-1100 with meat and madrigal. I usually don't eat meat without Madrigal also present, otherwise I'd have to switch out most of my haste gear for acc gear and I don't feel the extra attack and lower acc outweighs the ~20% haste and higher acc.

Only thing I would change about my gear if I could (bar HQ abjurations) would be Heca legs in full-time. That's the best leg WS piece for Rampage IMO.

Really just kind of as a rule of thumb, if you're not landing hits often you should put on more acc regardless of what STR/attack you have to forfiet. Landing hits often for consistant rampages with less STR/attack > missing hits often for inconsistant rampages. Especially since Rampage's STR modifier is so low.

[VZX]

No comment on stacking DEX+ for melee critical.
I don't have much experience with melee job (other than BLU, if you call that melee too). But I saw one funny parse long time ago from Miruka about crit+

[safer]

you'd think someone with ridill + ebody would know their job and available armor a bit better

even as someone with a no melee jobs what-so-ever i can tell you that you should ditch the suppa for like ANY other earring.. and your question about different gear during aggressor seems sorta obvious from just reading the description of the ability... more acc = you can sacrifice some of your existing acc gear for le str / attack / dex or w/e you melees like

[aurik]

vistani does know his job plenty well, he's soliciting for outside advice.

as a non-war I'd probably recommend heca+1 gloves over alky, because rampage is multi-hit so it screams out for accuracy, and lolmodifiers.

[Vistani]

you'd think someone with ridill + ebody would know their job and available armor a bit better

even as someone with a no melee jobs what-so-ever i can tell you that you should ditch the suppa for like ANY other earring.. and your question about different gear during aggressor seems sorta obvious from just reading the description of the ability... more acc = you can sacrifice some of your existing acc gear for le str / attack / dex or w/e you melees like

I didn't say that I leave Suppa in because of limited macro space anywhere in my post at all, especially not right next to where I write Suppa. Thanks for being really unhelpful. I was also asking about different sets of gear for when Berserk/Aggressor are down more for which pieces of gear to use rather than whether it's a good idea or not.

[RKenshin]

I used to do that often, but got lazy and eventually started forgetting to do it... But yeah, it's a good idea though if you remember to do it. At one point I switched in +25 acc or so worth of gear into rampage to make up for when Aggressor was down, it works great.