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    Mnk Noob questions

    Seing as how i hit 75 recently, and i'd like to stop being gimp sometime in the near future, let me try and set a few things straight for myself.

    I presume that having a set for TP gear and WS gear is important right? For example, if im going to use AF, there isn't any point in my keeping the turban on and should switch to something that actually helps the WS. In that same sense, when i use AF should i switch the brown belt for something else, like a potent belt, or something other sugested item? It seems to me like the haste is a waste on a WS, but im being adviced to keep it on anyway, so i duno.

    What should i merit first here? Kick attacks, focus recast, or counter rate (which i really have my heart set on since im a ballista/tank whore). I was thinking 5 for kick attacks and 5 for counter. Is this ok, or will I be cooked alive for it?

    And finaly im trying (yes now lol) to collect woodman's rings, Scorp harness, and finishing up on getting brown belt, which will leave em with a total of 25+ accuracy, is this enough? Or can i just rest safely assured i can always switch in my life belt for 35+ when i feel I need it? Seing as how im a mnk, and well, have focus, to help out every now and then, i also presume my main concern should be meat, and some good collection of accuracy, at least for merits, this is accurate right?

    Any advice for feet, earring, slot would be greatly appreciated.

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    merit hth then kick attacks, as far as gear, potent belt may be better than brown but not a huge deal, and yes haste is a waste on ws

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    I know i gotta merit hth first, but kick attacks and hand to hand aren't on the same category lol.

    Basicaly im asking if in mnk specific cat. i can ignore focus recast mod?

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    Re: Mnk Noob questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya
    I presume that having a set for TP gear and WS gear is important right? For example, if im going to use AF, there isn't any point in my keeping the turban on and should switch to something that actually helps the WS. In that same sense, when i use AF should i switch the brown belt for something else, like a potent belt, or something other sugested item? It seems to me like the haste is a waste on a WS, but im being adviced to keep it on anyway, so i duno.
    Accuracy is the most important modifier for Asuran Fists. The weaponskill is extremely reliable with high accuracy. The second most important thing is attack; the stat mods on the WS are pathetic.

    Strength isn't horrible, because it does add to fSTR, but generally where you can use accuracy instead of strength you should. Potent Belt, Life Belt are both OK replacements for Brown Belt; I don't macro out my Black Belt. Definitely remove turban for op hat, and get a soil, dark or flame gorget.

    What should i merit first here? Kick attacks, focus recast, or counter rate (which i really have my heart set on since im a ballista/tank whore). I was thinking 5 for kick attacks and 5 for counter. Is this ok, or will I be cooked alive for it?
    Kick/counter is the standard build from days of yore when mnk subbed war and killed skeletons. There are arguments for kick/focus builds now, especially if the only thing you do with mnk is merit in the new areas. Counter has more utility outside of merits.

    I'd suggest getting h2h/crit merits first, then move on to kicks.

    And finaly im trying (yes now lol) to collect woodman's rings, Scorp harness, and finishing up on getting brown belt, which will leave em with a total of 25+ accuracy, is this enough? Or can i just rest safely assured i can always switch in my life belt for 35+ when i feel I need it? Seing as how im a mnk, and well, have focus, to help out every now and then, i also presume my main concern should be meat, and some good collection of accuracy, at least for merits, this is accurate right?
    The more accuracy and attack you can get the better. Chram/faith torque, shura body, etc. Make sure you carry around af1 head to macro in when activating focus for the free +10 acc enhancement.

    Any advice for feet, earring, slot would be greatly appreciated.
    Feet:
    dune boots for merit
    tpl. gaiters +1 / melee gaiters for messing around
    fuma for utsusemi if you're micromanaging
    I macro marine M boots for AF, but there are a few decent macro choices, none that make a significant impact.

    Earring:
    brutal on left
    minuet or merman on right
    If you're into micromanagement bring a second merman to macro for brutal during AF.

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    Thanks Aurik, saving advice.

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    Re: Mnk Noob questions

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Earring:
    brutal on left
    minuet or merman on right
    If you're into micromanagement bring a second merman to macro for brutal during AF.
    Brutal sits on my right ear for MNK!

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    Clearing up something quick:

    Chram/Faith Torque for TP/Melee

    And Soil,Dark, and Flame Gorget for WS

    or is it all interchangeble?

    Ive heard the sea gorgets, if used correctly, will enhance WS far greater than a 7+ amp on hth.

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    Faith for TP, Gorget for WS. And yes, sea gorgets will always be the better WS choice.

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    Re: Mnk Noob questions

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    brutal on right
    Fixed.

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    Re: Mnk Noob questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackice
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Earring:
    brutal on left
    minuet or merman on right
    If you're into micromanagement bring a second merman to macro for brutal during AF.
    Brutal sits on my right ear for MNK!
    brutal is left ear only

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    Re: Mnk Noob questions

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackice
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Earring:
    brutal on left
    minuet or merman on right
    If you're into micromanagement bring a second merman to macro for brutal during AF.
    Brutal sits on my right ear for MNK!
    brutal is left ear only
    /nod, right ear is for merman's....

    And, on the note of replacing Brutal w/ merman's on WS, are folks back to thinking that you can't DA during Asuran provided you miss an earlier hit in the WS?

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    Re: Mnk Noob questions

    Quote Originally Posted by draxyl
    And, on the note of replacing Brutal w/ merman's on WS, are folks back to thinking that you can't DA during Asuran provided you miss an earlier hit in the WS?
    yes, based on the observation that you make a maximum of 8 swings per combat round, regardless of how many actually hit.

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    Re: Mnk Noob questions

    Quote Originally Posted by draxyl
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackice
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Earring:
    brutal on left
    minuet or merman on right
    If you're into micromanagement bring a second merman to macro for brutal during AF.
    Brutal sits on my right ear for MNK!
    brutal is left ear only
    /nod, right ear is for merman's....

    And, on the note of replacing Brutal w/ merman's on WS, are folks back to thinking that you can't DA during Asuran provided you miss an earlier hit in the WS?
    But i would think if you're Asuran is consistant enough in accuracy, some attack from merman's would serve it better, no?

    Edit: Plus 8 is max

    Edit 2: DAMN

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    That was a pure softball pitch, intended for aurik only

    Thanks.

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    Is SH(+1) acceptable for all around meleeing/ws in merit pts? Its been so long since Ive thought about this kinda stuff I have no idea. And if SH is acceptable, what is ideal?

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    Pahluwan body, shura togi, and the salvage body are better. If you don't have any of those, I'd go with scorpion harness (+1). Although pahluwan and SH+1 are probably about equal in merits, unless somebody figured out what pahluwan's crit enhancement is. I remember it being low enough that nobody could really tell.

    Edit: Brutal on right, merman's on left.

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    It's +1.5% crit.

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    Monks should always sub rng

    because of the pebbles

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    Re: Mnk Noob questions

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackice
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Earring:
    brutal on left
    minuet or merman on right
    If you're into micromanagement bring a second merman to macro for brutal during AF.
    Brutal sits on my right ear for MNK!
    brutal is left ear only
    qft that's the first rule of Monk.

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