Temenos West

[Eldelphia]

OK, stupid question probably but are we missing something obvious here..? As a group we've done this zone only 4 times and we have run out of time every time. No time chest pops at all. We've gotten JA and items but no time... so we don't get anywhere near to ending it.

[Kaylia]

What's your setup? I tp burned this zone with 6 multiples time, and never really had issue. You usually get 2 chest per floor, and you can do 3-4 floors with the initial 30minutes. I can imagine running out of time if you have horrible luck, and I really mean horrible, but it shouldnt be that common if you kill everything.

If you have 3melee only, you might want to skip ooze floor, we kill them usually but when time is short (under15min), we just skip. For last 2 floors, make sure to leave 6-7 minutes for the final chest (can probably kill the bird faster with 2hours, but not point risking it). Be sure to have 1 sleepga for final floor (rdm/blm, blm, brd is probably fine)

[Loren]

It's frustratingly random. I've timed out with large groups of competent, buffed people.

If you really need the chip, you have the option of killing 1 mob per floor and just sprinting to the end within 30 minutes but your loot total will be depressing.

If you kill everything looking for item and time chests, then it's a roll of the dice.

[Sonomaa]

Ive been shit on by this one before, it just turns out that way sometimes

[Bakthi]

Yeah, sometimes it will just screw you over with no time chests; sounds like you got a seriously unlucky streak. I've heard a theory that Treasure Hunter affects the chest drops in this zone, but I've cleared it many times with 6-7 people and no THF...one time it was with 6 people, including my BST and a PUP (I don't remember why I was on BST, probably back when I only had BRD and BST to 75 and we already had a BRD). The only real requirement is that you have Paralyna for the first floor, and some way of dealing with the last floor (ES+Sleepga 2, /SMN, BST, something...pulling with automatons doesn't work, btw, they just die and the mobs sit there).

We usually have 0-1 BLMs, so unless we've gotten a lot of time chests and all the melee have Utsusemi, we typically skip the slimes.

[bercus]

We got in over 1 year also 2 times no time chest in this Level.
Like already mentioned it is random and luck. You really want to open the first
2 time chests that drop, then you can go easily for Items ^^.
Skipping a floor sometimes good too.

So no you have not missed anything just had no luck.

[Bakthi]

You don't have to choose between time/loot/2 hour in West; you can and should open every chest that drops. Maybe you were thinking of North?

[Eldelphia]

I think partially we had the wrong jobs this time but if I see anymore SAM or RDM Temenos items I'm gonna scream.

We went for items so we didn't do too bad except we had duplicates of freaking SAM. Which we don't really need.... we do need WHM, SMN, BRD, BLM, WAR, NIN and RNG :D

[Elesirdur]

It's pretty random this one. If you're just there for the chip and need the Ultima set more than the AF+1 or ABCs then I do recommend just killing one or two things per floor and making a mad dash for the elevator.

I've gotten lucky and had T-West turn out better for loot than Apollyon NW but other days you'll be killing to the very last mob on each floor for the time chest. Closest call I had in T-West was a run where we were on about the fourth floor and killed the mob that dropped the time chest just at the 5 second warning flashed. Managed to clear it no problem after that. It's a crapshoot whatever you do.

[rithridan]

I think partially we had the wrong jobs this time but if I see anymore SAM or RDM Temenos items I'm gonna scream.

We went for items so we didn't do too bad except we had duplicates of freaking SAM. Which we don't really need.... we do need WHM, SMN, BRD, BLM, WAR, NIN and RNG :D

Welcome to Limbus, where AF+1 items only drop when the people who need it aren't there! I'm serious, we have a BLM who was 1/2 and didn't see any Apollyon BLM for a long time only to have it drop the first run that he isn't there (he took a break). He was lucky that I was playing his char cos pimp BLM is so much fun

[Yutuyu]

I'd say TH definitely does effect the chest drop rate. Honestly whenever we have TH2+ we seem to get as much as an extra-chest per floor over when we don't (on average).

[Kurgan]

Mostly bad luck, I'd say. The chests that drop are totally random.

My LS has done this area twice now, completing it both times. We got lucky enough to get at least two time chests. It's very possible that TH does help. We had Thiefs both times. I've done this area before with another LS in the past and we've run out of time on at least one occasion.

This is a pretty good Temenos area for coins and AF+1 item farming. We seem to get around 55-56 coins and at least 3-4 AF+1 items so far each time. It just seems like a really long Limbus since there's seven floors.