Mobs casting on random people?

[Kaisha]

This is something that's been bugging me for awhile, and I really am not sure when-abouts this was 'broke' if it truly, but anyways...

After taking my first DD job (*coughPUP*), I noticed a fair amount of XP mobs would cast random spells (primarily fast-casting stuff, such as debuffs) on the person attacking it whom has the least hate, rather than on the tank itself, was this always the case? I always figured it was an AI glitch, cause it was *I* who ended up getting those spells (blind, sleep, bio, etc) on my PUP (weakest DD in the PT for the most part) where I never had hate to begin with, was this always the case with the mob AI?

Thought it might have been ToA-exclusive, but after messing around in sky with some LS mates, even the weapons that aggro'd (was heading to the Celestial Nexus golem camp, and you know how some people are regarding safe-sneakoil distances), and the same thing happened there.....

Anyone know something about this, whether or not it was a glitch introduced at one point, or was always this way?
(been playing 4½ years, and I highly doubt that I wouldn't have noticed this until the last three some months, but I've been known to be wrong in the past)

[Guyverarmor]

First mistake was taking PUP as your first DD j/k

But all kidding aside, It had happen to me a couple of time I thought It was glitch but then talking to couple of Meripo friends and informed me that they would experience the same.

[ringthree]

They changed this a long time ago. Mobs can cast on anyone in the party in range.

I believe it might have been in the Limbus update because I remember people mentioning that Ultima could cast Holy II on anyone, and it was around that time that I noticed other mobs being able to do that.

[Loren]

I notice it mostly with Sleep and Bind. Makes sense that the mob wouldn't want to debuff his current target if the next hit is going to undo it.

[Kaisha]

First mistake was taking PUP as your first DD j/k

Heh, I know, it's a fun job, but as it stands, it doesn't really serve any specific purpose that would warrent it a PT slot in an end-game event over any other job, really hoping the update might give it some purpose and a better survivability rate.

They changed this a long time ago. Mobs can cast on anyone in the party in range.

I believe it might have been in the Limbus update because I remember people mentioning that Ultima could cast Holy II on anyone, and it was around that time that I noticed other mobs being able to do that.

Wonder if I can find it in the update info, unless it was ninja'd in. I mean, I already know about it regarding specific fights (such as the one you mentioned), but I always assumed they were just special cases, since they *are* a boss/nm/pop-item fight after all, and they usually have tricks up their sleeve. Never really expected that to carry over to all the mobs in the game though.

[skurlover]

They changed this a long time ago. Mobs can cast on anyone in the party in range.

I believe it might have been in the Limbus update because I remember people mentioning that Ultima could cast Holy II on anyone, and it was around that time that I noticed other mobs being able to do that.

That fucker tried to snipe me numerous times last night. Sometimes it will eat shadows, sometimes it goes right thru them.

[ringthree]

They changed this a long time ago. Mobs can cast on anyone in the party in range.

I believe it might have been in the Limbus update because I remember people mentioning that Ultima could cast Holy II on anyone, and it was around that time that I noticed other mobs being able to do that.

That fucker tried to snipe me numerous times last night. Sometimes it will eat shadows, sometimes it goes right thru them.

Dorps?

And yeah, for some reason on our last Ultima it seemed to just go after the SATA people.

[ringthree]

First mistake was taking PUP as your first DD j/k

Heh, I know, it's a fun job, but as it stands, it doesn't really serve any specific purpose that would warrent it a PT slot in an end-game event over any other job, really hoping the update might give it some purpose and a better survivability rate.

They changed this a long time ago. Mobs can cast on anyone in the party in range.

I believe it might have been in the Limbus update because I remember people mentioning that Ultima could cast Holy II on anyone, and it was around that time that I noticed other mobs being able to do that.

Wonder if I can find it in the update info, unless it was ninja'd in. I mean, I already know about it regarding specific fights (such as the one you mentioned), but I always assumed they were just special cases, since they *are* a boss/nm/pop-item fight after all, and they usually have tricks up their sleeve. Never really expected that to carry over to all the mobs in the game though.

It was Ninja'd, I would have remembered it from the update notes.

[Hanyoko]

It used to be the monster would only attack the person the highest on the hate list. Awhile back they did several AI improvements and the side effect was that they will focus on the highest hate, but occasionally do things to others that have hate.

I remember a few times being main heal and the mob would keep trying to hit me with silence.

Though, I think the best 'bug' that has persisted from all this is when a WHM mob will cast silena on itself; or Stona.

In short, its rare on normal mobs. Much more common on NMs

[Credos]

I actually think that this was changed before the Ultima patch that was previously mentioned; If you recall the Goblin Alchemists in Bibiki Bay, I remember then casting Holy on random people throughout an exp PT.

[Francisco II]

Fomors in Sacrarium do this too... the PLD mobs would repeatedly flash me, without turning from the tank.

Under certain conditions, Quadav, Aern and Goblin white mages will cast Stona on themselves, if you stun them... I think there is more to it than simply stunning them... maybe a stunned weapon skill or something.

Also, Yagudo BRDs haven't always casted Mage's Ballad II, from what I can remember.

[Kaisha]

Didn't SE fix the Stona issue, or was that just for Dynamis?

[skurlover]

They changed this a long time ago. Mobs can cast on anyone in the party in range.

I believe it might have been in the Limbus update because I remember people mentioning that Ultima could cast Holy II on anyone, and it was around that time that I noticed other mobs being able to do that.

That fucker tried to snipe me numerous times last night. Sometimes it will eat shadows, sometimes it goes right thru them.

Dorps?

And yeah, for some reason on our last Ultima it seemed to just go after the SATA people.

Body, Double Leg.

[cassiraa]

Under certain conditions, Quadav, Aern and Goblin white mages will cast Stona on themselves, if you stun them... I think there is more to it than simply stunning them... maybe a stunned weapon skill or something.

If it happens to be stunned when it's deciding on what spell to cast next, It may decide to remove the status effect it currently has. Just like they may Paralyna themselves. Well, if it decides to remove "Stun" it'll cast "Stona"

It's not 'how' it's stunned, but 'when'

[Keider]

I don't know about randomly casting Silence on WHMs or anything, but I definately notice that mobs will cast debuffs (and only debuffs) on whoever's standing closest to them opposed to whoever has hate, usually in Salvage I try to be the closest one to mobs that cast so I get stunned/slept/whatever instead of the MNKs. Haven't noticed anyone else getting hit with these spells when I do this.

[Pergo]

i believe proto-ultima's random holy2 is an intended action not similiar to mobs randomly casting debuffs on various pt members

[Kaylia]

Collibri cast on random target, but that's about it (for xp mobs). Never saw any debuff casted on the wrong target, even less damage spell.

[Sylvrdragon]

Ix'DRK will regularly cast absorbs are random party members regardless of who has the most hate. I know I've been slept, bound, gravitied, and otherwise enfeebled by mobs that I haven't touched (but was in PT with a person who did). I don't know if it was ninja'd, I think it might have just been a vague wording in some obscure update.

Along the lines of ~na spells, I swear I've seen a Dynamis WHM silena itself before (Last Jeuno, I saw one silena ANOTHER mob, but that wasn't anything special). I think the deal with mobs casting them on themselves is that they que up the spell to be cast next time they are able, whether the effect is still on them or not, or something like that.

[Leeto]

yeah, this happened to me a lot on ix'DRK. when I trio-quaded it, I was usually on rdm since I didn't have blm leveled, just to refresh and toss out bio 2. whenever I would bio 2 it as it ran by me I'd get stunned/absorbed/etc. also noticed it albeit very rarely on other kited mobs.

[Max™]

Had a running joke through one of my early parties in lolazouph, every single time the Imps would cast Sleep II, it was on me.

Was more of a just having fun party with some buds, so we were doing Steel Cyclone > Evisceration TA'D onto the Pld just to laugh about the Imp's and Flies exploding when the Darkness effect hit them.

For a sec I thought I had been getting hate but came to realise it was just picking me out to Sleep.

I do know I was very high on the hate list though, because they would turn and take swings at me from time to time, but any time they debuffed, Blind, Bio II, Sleep II, it would always no look cast onto me.... little bastards had a sense of humor I swear.