Promy ENM 50 solo?

[LinktheDeme]

Basic question just wondering if it's possible to solo this and if so on what job and what should i go about strategy wise. Thanks in advance

[Weeks]

MNK

[Jedimasta]

Anything that can reliably to a shitton of damage really fast. I haven't tried looking around but I bet WAR can prolly solo this with good gear.

[fantasticdan]

Blu can solo it relatively easily, bring animas.

[Charismatic]

Blu can solo it relatively easily, bring animas.

Really now?

What spells would you suggest for it? I'd like to give it a try sometime.

[Eraphiel]

I've seen several videos of this over on Stage6, from mnk, blu, rdm, and even drg. FFXI + ENM usually pops up plenty of results, and quite a few are various solo ones. Icarus Wings, some hi-pots, anima, and the ability to do some nice burst damage seem to make this really easy.

[Weeks]

This is the strangest strategy I've found. RDM/BLU, melees the phys damage one almost to death, then spends the next 25 minutes just DoTing the main MR to ~20%, kills aqua, and scrambles to finish off the main one before the Contemplator and Empty Seed spam kills him.

[fantasticdan]

Blu can solo it relatively easily, bring animas.

Really now?

What spells would you suggest for it? I'd like to give it a try sometime.

The important spells: head butt, bludgeon, mandibular bite (this does a ton of damage with 2hr), refueling, wild carrot, cocoon, metallic body, jet stream, wild oats. I tried sickle slash, but it isn't worth it compared to mandy bite. Might as well post strat I use, althou most of it's just common sense.

Bring an RR earring, animas, and yag drinks. Regen drinks and maybe a vile elixer if you want to be safe. The MRs have like no evasion, but either use sole sushi for the stats (you will be spamming spells), or a defense food to help out against the summoned mob and empty seed. I've always went /nin, but you won't be recasting shadows much, if at all, so /war with defender and defense food might work better, not sure. I use some max mp to start casting in (maybe not necessary), than switch to almost all STR gear. Make some <st> macros to use the animas.

Basically buff up, use yag drink/regen drink, than run in and zerg down the aqua MR that makes the boss vulnerable to melee. I started off with wild oats, than rotated between head butt, mandibular bite, bludgeon, and jet stream, save CA for the boss. You may want to use the anima that prevents TP moves on the boss MR at this time, or save it for right before you 2hr. When the aqua MR is killed, it should summon a promy boss mob called contemplator, DO NOT FIGHT IT, just immediately throw the anima on it that makes it run away, and engage the boss MR.

Do the same thing on the boss as to the aqua MR, except 2hr after wild oats and headbutt, use CA with mandy bite, and try to zerg it down without dying. When the contemplator comes back, throw the anima that causes it to be intimidated on it immediately.

If you are going to die, run to the entrance. The boss MR does not regen, and you can RR up and try again after weakness wears. There's a 30 minute time limit, so you should have 4-5 lives to throw at it, assuming you die in a safe spot. I usually win in the first life, or after 1 RR. You can have very bad luck however, if the boss happens to draw you in right before the killshot, you can end up too close to getup without aggro. But if you keep trying to run to the entrance, the empty seed that kills you should knock you into the hallway, or close enough to get up safely. And make sure you cast headbutt whenever the timer is up, stun lasts pretty long on them, and they cannot use empty seed while stunned.

I've also done this on rdm with a shit load of RR and DoT. It's easier than blu solo kinda, but it's a long and boring fight, and you're much more prone to getting shafted by draw-in death, due to the number of times you will need to die and RR.

[Nazrious]

hmm how do you think a Blu and Brd would fair doing this? or is that unadvised as it would make the mobs harder or something?

[Bardlet]

I duo as RDM/WHM with a DRG/BLU. We've won it a ton of times, but unfortunately, our only working strategy involves dying and reraising once. Thank goodness for no exp loss in ENMs. >_>;

[Cream Soda]

Ok here is what I do. I hax and use black belt paired with ridill in 50 cap
j/k lol

This is what I do as mnk: (and i'm sure would work for other jobs with fast damage)

First, I got to the AH and get the following materials(Which I won't even need all of unless there is an emergency)
Food: Carbonara
Meds: Hi pot+3 x4 (Used to bring more when i first started but I've gotten better), Vile elixir (Just in case of an emergency, but rarely used.), Vile elixir+1 (Only bring if I get one off Serket, but never buy; also used for emergency), Icarius Wing
Alchemy shitz: Psycho anima, Terro Anima
Armor: High breath mantle for HP

Outside of BC, I use Carbonara food and High breath mantle for higher HP and rest.

Once inside
1. Use TP wing
1.5(forgot this step and don't wan tto renumber). Use buffs (Focus, dodge, and berserk)
2. Approach red MR
3. Target aqua MR (make sure its the aqua one, not blue)
4. Unleash WS and attack aqua MR until death (for me takes about 1-2 melee rounds after WS to kill it)
5. Use Psychoanima on Contemplator (I macro /item "Psycho Anima" <stnpc>, in order to be able to get the anima off quickly)
6. Target red MR and use hundred fists.
7. WS when possible; Use meds if/when needed (Don't try to be cheap here if theres something even looking close to be a risk, use meds. I've lost this ENM on 2 separate occasions with main MR at 1%)

Tips: I turned autotarget off because it would mess up my targeting after defeating the aqua MR
If red MR not dead before psycho anima wears off, use terro anima to buy those last couple seconds.

I have a vid of me doing it(one successful and one unsuccessful), but theres already been a mnk video of this posted in this thread so i won't post mine, but if you want to see it, just PM me.


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[fantasticdan]

hmm how do you think a Blu and Brd would fair doing this? or is that unadvised as it would make the mobs harder or something?

Blu+brd/whm (blu+ any job really) will steamroll over this ENM, assuming you aren't complete idiots. However it will really just be the blu basically soloing it while the bard leeches with some gimpy healing, the songs aren't going to do much for the blu in this situation if you brought yag drinks. It doesn't get harder with more people.

[Meepein]

Been thinking about trying this on SAM, which I heard was possible. I assume you do Tachi: Enpi or Jinpu a lot. Would I be able to Aggro red, target aqua, WS once and kill straight on, then Anima the mob that pops, and 2 Hour+Meditate+I Wing Red ftw? I would assume SAM/WAR would be best, or would /NIN be better? Also, would Soboro work on this, or should I go for a better GKT for WS's (since this fight is not about building TP fast, I would assume a higher damage GKT would work better.)

Just kinda curious if I could actually pull this off, ya know?

[fantasticdan]

Been thinking about trying this on SAM, which I heard was possible. I assume you do Tachi: Enpi or Jinpu a lot. Would I be able to Aggro red, target aqua, WS once and kill straight on, then Anima the mob that pops, and 2 Hour+Meditate+I Wing Red ftw? I would assume SAM/WAR would be best, or would /NIN be better? Also, would Soboro work on this, or should I go for a better GKT for WS's (since this fight is not about building TP fast, I would assume a higher damage GKT would work better.)

Just kinda curious if I could actually pull this off, ya know?

Sam can definitely pull this off. Keep in mind shadows from /nin are only going to last you one empty seed, I think you might be better off going /blu and using cocoon. I'm not that familar with sam weapons at 50 cap, but you might want to consider using a high base dmg katana at the beginning, than switch to soboro after you run out of TP from i-wing, meditate, and 2hr.

[Cream Soda]

Been thinking about trying this on SAM, which I heard was possible. I assume you do Tachi: Enpi or Jinpu a lot. Would I be able to Aggro red, target aqua, WS once and kill straight on, then Anima the mob that pops, and 2 Hour+Meditate+I Wing Red ftw? I would assume SAM/WAR would be best, or would /NIN be better? Also, would Soboro work on this, or should I go for a better GKT for WS's (since this fight is not about building TP fast, I would assume a higher damage GKT would work better.)

Just kinda curious if I could actually pull this off, ya know?

I don't have sam lv'd but this is probably what I would do.

Get the highest DMG gtk
Sub war (Empty Seed > shadows)
Use HP stuff as I recommended in my post
Meditate and wait on timer
WS aqua
When dead, pop anima in empty
Meditate and WS
2hr red MR (Don't be so hasty to try to make a SC cause you dont' want to attempt to WS while getting knocked back cause that may cost you dearly)
If not dead after 4 WS, I'd swap to soboro for multi hitting and call the WS tp a loss(Swap right away)

Use meds as needed.

Edit: didn't see post above. While /blu would be great for defense. The main part of the strat would be to defeat the MR before that anima wears off or if not, still kill as soon as possible. Berserk and double attack is the way to go.

[Meepein]

Well, I would do /BLU, but it's at 1. So, I don't think that's an option for me atm. I would think SAM/WAR would work, as I think (though do not know) that Seigan/Third Eye will not be wiped due to Empty Seed (meaning I will still take damage from that and have a lil protection against that craver thing, which is what I was aiming for)

I was thinking the same with Soboro. My WS's would suck with it (the base damage is so damn low and I could get Koryukagemitsu for the added killingness.) If my WS's do what what I think, I could WS the aqua one, then melee it down from there (seems like MNK's take no time to kill it, so unless I miss, I should be fine.) Then Terro the craver thing, and go batshit crazy on Red (2 Hour, Med, I Wing, I don't think that thing would last long with 5 WS's coming at it in that amount of time, barring misses and 'out of range' things.)

Maybe I will give it a go tomorrow... Been bored anyway, this could be fun.

[Cream Soda]

Well, I would do /BLU, but it's at 1. So, I don't think that's an option for me atm. I would think SAM/WAR would work, as I think (though do not know) that Seigan/Third Eye will not be wiped due to Empty Seed (meaning I will still take damage from that and have a lil protection against that craver thing, which is what I was aiming for)

I was thinking the same with Soboro. My WS's would suck with it (the base damage is so damn low and I could get Koryukagemitsu for the added killingness.) If my WS's do what what I think, I could WS the aqua one, then melee it down from there (seems like MNK's take no time to kill it, so unless I miss, I should be fine.) Then Terro the craver thing, and go batshit crazy on Red (2 Hour, Med, I Wing, I don't think that thing would last long with 5 WS's coming at it in that amount of time, barring misses and 'out of range' things.)

Maybe I will give it a go tomorrow... Been bored anyway, this could be fun.

Psycho would be the better choice of anima. With terro it kinda just takes a lap and comes back. TP wing won't do you any good unless you use before the fight, which you won't need to because you have meditate. I can give you a 95% money back guarantee you wouldn't get a TP wing off before having it interrupted because you moved (Empty seed)

[Spekkio]

how super awesome does a blu need to be to solo it? my blu is 61 with all spells up to it, but i'm not sure if i could come up with that great a gearset for a 50 cap zone. do you need to use a wing and hipots too? on otherwiki someone made reference that a naked whm with repose was able to sleep the mob spawned by the MR death. have you tried sheep song or pinecone bomb to try to put it down?

on a related note, is there any estimate on the drop rate of the ring other than "lol"? if i'm investing a bunch into winning the fight, it would be nice to figure out a rough average return on investment for it.

[Therin]

how super awesome does a blu need to be to solo it? my blu is 61 with all spells up to it, but i'm not sure if i could come up with that great a gearset for a 50 cap zone. do you need to use a wing and hipots too? on otherwiki someone made reference that a naked whm with repose was able to sleep the mob spawned by the MR death. have you tried sheep song or pinecone bomb to try to put it down?

on a related note, is there any estimate on the drop rate of the ring other than "lol"? if i'm investing a bunch into winning the fight, it would be nice to figure out a rough average return on investment for it.

I'd say 5-10% drop rate.

I did the ENM every week for 6 months and never saw it, though.

[Tajin]

1/10ish on Toreador's including 2 or 3 wipes.