Paladin Group 2 merits

[Ophannus]

I'm torn between Guardian Iron Will and Chivalry.

Iron Will seems the best ebcause 5/5 is a 95% spell interruption rate during Rampart which could be godly for getting shadows back up or a desperetly needed Cure 4. Although 5/5 Guardian is 95% hate kept during Sentinel/ Chivalry makes good hate I hear and may be useful for extra MP. Any suggestions?

-Edit-
With Knightly Earring and Valor Breeches macroed into Utsu(no homam yet) I get -19% Spell Interruption rate. Would this mean I could go 4/5 on Iron Will and have the same effect as 5/5(for myself, not pt members)

[kayn]

Is this a spoof off the drk tier II merits or are you serious?
If you're serious, I'm planning on 5/5 guarding, 4/5 chiv and 1/5 fealty.
Hoping 5/5 guarding will give me a chance against nin/drks.

[Ophannus]

no im serious.

why fealty if i may ask? Im trying to think of when it would be useful just once, since its a 20m recast

[evilpaul]

It protects you from Meteor and Mijin Gakure damage iirc. So it would be handy for when you see either of those coming.

[LinktheDeme]

It protects you from Meteor and Mijin Gakure damage iirc. So it would be handy for when you see either of those coming.

It's the secret to defeating AV etc.

[Samot]

my advice is similar, i'm doing 5/5 chiv 4/5 guardian 1/5 fealty

Chiv is super usefull, like a tiny pld convert and should be usable as often as possible for many situations (merits, nyzule, long hnm fights, limbus)

i just picked up 1 fealty, and i'm glad i have it for special occasions, but i dont see using it alot, so i don't mind the long recast

guardian because, well, sentinal owns and spell interruption is silly, also everything i've read about guardian is positive.

fealty examples: As stated, meteor (like at the end of bc99 KB fight >.>) Short fights where ideally your mages have better things to do than na you (nyzule bosses gotta die in a hurry, dont need to spend any time paralized). Fights where the mob charms fairly predictably (the bst gigas in temenos, the corse boss in apollyon, xotlol). Malboro fights where you're gonna get breathed on (like dynamis valkurm boss). And fights agains any rdm mob, especially those that chainspell

[Tan]

I'm torn between Guardian Iron Will and Chivalry.

Iron Will seems the best ebcause 5/5 is a 95% spell interruption rate during Rampart which could be godly for getting shadows back up or a desperetly needed Cure 4. Although 5/5 Guardian is 95% hate kept during Sentinel/ Chivalry makes good hate I hear and may be useful for extra MP. Any suggestions?

-Edit-
With Knightly Earring and Valor Breeches macroed into Utsu(no homam yet) I get -19% Spell Interruption rate. Would this mean I could go 4/5 on Iron Will and have the same effect as 5/5(for myself, not pt members)

Started a thread like this a few weeks ago:

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59244

[Charismatic]

I can't see much reason at all for meriting Guardian, unless I'm misunderstanding something...
With the way Sentinel works now aren't you losing almost no hate already by virtue of the fact that with Sentinel up you take practically no physical damage?

I guess if you get bombed with some crazy magic ability while you happen to have Sentinel up it'd be good, but otherwise I just can't see the use for Guardian...

[Callisto]

I can't see much reason at all for meriting Guardian, unless I'm misunderstanding something...
With the way Sentinel works now aren't you losing almost no hate already by virtue of the fact that with Sentinel up you take practically no physical damage?

I guess if you get bombed with some crazy magic ability while you happen to have Sentinel up it'd be good, but otherwise I just can't see the use for Guardian...

I'm not sure but I think it would also apply to the normal hate decay over time and from shadow loss, assuming you do something like Sent > Flash you make a good chunk, but for the next 30 seconds you probably lose it at the normal rate due to things other than taking damage.

[Tan]

I can't see much reason at all for meriting Guardian, unless I'm misunderstanding something...
With the way Sentinel works now aren't you losing almost no hate already by virtue of the fact that with Sentinel up you take practically no physical damage?

I guess if you get bombed with some crazy magic ability while you happen to have Sentinel up it'd be good, but otherwise I just can't see the use for Guardian...

You aren't necessarily losing hate from being hit by typical enmity decay. I don't know how other plds play but I typically save Sentinel for "oh shit momemts" or when I'm severely lacking enmity w/ a Tanking partner. This makes Guardian really, powerful as you can rapidly regain your enmity (since sentinel caps enmity) and then you aren't losing any to decay, so doing Sent->Shield Bash-> Flash and anything else provides a significant boost / retaining of your enmity level.

[Ophannus]

but -95% spell interruption rate for 45 seconds seems pretty broken for getting shadows back up

[Callisto]

I don't know for sure and the shit would be insanely hard to test, but I'm going to go out on a limb and guess there's a hard cap for spell interruption the way there are for other boosts, and I'm willing to venture that it's lower than 95%, I would think close to 80%. Again that's baseless speculation, but I couldn't see it being that high.

[Atlasion]

I highly recommend putting a merit in Fealty. Its very useful to have to fire off quickly when needed.

As for Guardian. I'm not too sure how it works, but I do notice quite a difference. I always use Sentinel then try spam stuff whilst its up. Like Sentinel > Flash > Shield Bash, then maybe cure if needed. Only save Sentinel for "oh shit" moments when fighting Khimaira, incase Tourbillion is used at a bad time.

I'm still to cap my PLD tier 2 merits since the update (had pretty much all PLD stuff capped, except crap like VIT). If I get round to it, going to go for; 4 chiv, 4 Guardian, 1 Fealty, and leave my 1 Iron WIll as I'm too lazy to change it.

[Samot]

I think spell interruption is silly because at this point the combination of shield mastery and reprisal is amazing. I actualy cast utsusemi ichi while poisonhand gnagdad hundred fisted me in campaign. I save rampart for ga spells and/or nasty AOE's. if you need it once every 5 min (or 4:10) to help put up shadows or cast some other spell, i think there are other issues that need to be adressed.