Question on 'Forging a New Myth' battle

**Pergatory** · 2009-10-01 17:37

So I just did the Balrahn fight to obtain my mythic weapon (Yagrush), and ran into something that caught me by surprise. I was wondering if this has happened to anyone else.

I went into the battle as WHM/NIN, using Yagrush + Perdu Wand. All information I've seen says that he will do his first taunt for Lv1 aftermath either immediately or very shortly after the battle starts. This was not my experience. In fact, I fought him for about 8-10 minutes, taking him down to about 65%, and never received the taunt. At this point I became worried, and decided to try switching things up. I removed my Perdu wand, and used ONLY the Yagrush with nothing in my off-hand. After doing this, the very moment that I hit 100% TP, he taunted me for Lv1 aftermath, as though he'd been waiting for me to build 100 TP using only the Yagrush and nothing else. This continued through the rest of the fight, he taunted me immediately every time once Perdu was out of the picture.

I'm thinking maybe this is a requisite for the fight. Has anyone else gone in dual wielding and had problems getting him to taunt you?

Other questions:
Anyone done this fight for a ranged mythic? If so, notice anything odd about getting him to taunt? Were you able to TP to 100 with your melee weapons to get the taunt, or did you have to build 100 TP using only ranged attacks in order to get taunted?

Anyone used a wing to get TP instead of meleeing? If so, did he taunt you as soon as you hit 100, or did you have to go beyond because the wing's TP didn't count?

**Staleyx** · 2009-10-01 18:03

Scary you didn't lose your triggers did you? Makes sense though that it only wants you to use the mythic, even though its already a easy fight from what I read.

**Staleyx** · 2009-10-01 18:03

Der, Just saw your name lol. Saw your mythic the other day /facepalm

**Corrderio** · 2009-10-01 18:09

Originally Posted by Staleyx

Scary you didn't lose your triggers did you? Makes sense though that it only wants you to use the mythic, even though its already a easy fight from what I read.

That's actually a good question if you lose anything if you fail the fight.

**Lishje** · 2009-10-01 18:11

As S.E. would say:
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4169/90970778.jpg

DUAL WIELDING IS THE DEVIL!

(seriously that's kind of messed up

)

**Yugl** · 2009-10-01 18:20

Originally Posted by Corrderio

That's actually a good question if you lose anything if you fail the fight.

The trophies, but from what the OP posted, it seems you need to do Mythic weapon fights with the Mythic weapon ONLY in order to receive the message.

**Kipling** · 2009-10-01 18:21

Originally Posted by Corrderio

That's actually a good question if you lose anything if you fail the fight.

I think only one person ever lost, and it was the first guy to ever try it. You just need to re get all the trophies.

**jimbobsonofgod** · 2009-10-01 18:21

Originally Posted by Yugl

The trophies, but from what the OP posted, it seems you need to do Mythic weapon fights with the Mythic weapon ONLY in order to receive the message.

That is correct. i had the exact same thing when i did blue weapon. I had to remove perdu sword from sub for any kind of progress. So yeah mythic weapon only.

And that's correct about the losing of the trophies. The Serpentking Zahak relief is lost on entry.

**Corrderio** · 2009-10-01 19:44

Okay thanks for the info on that. Trophies aren't the worst thing to happen I suppose.

**Flight_93** · 2009-10-01 20:37

Worked fine on Nin main.

**Carrilei** · 2009-10-01 22:23

Thanks for pointing this out.. Was planning on using MK if I ever got my rocks together on COR; seems that plan may not work. Hoping for confirmation on that as well as i.wings. I would assume too, if I got TP from Wild Card/Meditate, it would be under the same rules as an icarus wing as far as counting/not counting.

**Kaylia** · 2009-10-01 22:59

Originally Posted by Flight_93

Worked fine on Nin main.

Maybe it has something to do with the last weapon you equiped

**jimbobsonofgod** · 2009-10-01 23:03

Originally Posted by Kaylia

Maybe it has something to do with the last weapon you equiped

Or maybe its got something to do with the fact that nin is the only job that naturally has dual wield >.<

**Pergatory** · 2009-10-02 00:24

Originally Posted by jimbobsonofgod

Or maybe its got something to do with the fact that nin is the only job that naturally has dual wield >.<

That could very well be. I wouldn't be surprised if NIN is the only job that can get away with it. Although it's worth noting that I did have Perdu Wand equipped when I finally got Lv3 aftermath and won the fight. However I think I was taunted for #3 right after gaining Lv2, at which time I was still just using the Yagrush by itself. So the taunts seem to require no off-hand (or at least the first one does), but once the taunt unlocks an aftermath level, it's available regardless.

Carrilei, let us know how it goes when you do your fight! I'm curious to hear if you end up having to gain TP using only the Death Penalty. That'd be nuts, but you should enter the fight prepared for that possibility. Farming trophies again would seriously suck.

**Spira** · 2009-10-02 00:36

I wonder if its just due to the fact that perdu happens to come with latent effects that screw up with the script somehow?

since it seems that everyone with the problem so far was wearing a perdu.. or what flight said

**pendragoon** · 2009-10-02 00:41

I'm pretty sure he taunted me as soon as I engaged him... Tizona/Koggelmander.

He didnt say anything else, got up to 140%-ish TP without message, decided to WS anyways, he said something as i was using the WS. (Which I thought was him taunting me for 200%)

Then another taunt when I used WS at 210%-ish (again, after I already launched the WS). Then gave me the completion message when i used 300%, then whatever else he says, then it was done.

**Kirschy** · 2009-10-02 01:23

When I did my fight, I did my 100tp WS right away before the first taunt, so it didn't count. My 200 TP and 300 TP were were registered correctly though. I had to wait 2 min for my AM3 to wear off before my 100TP AM was registered and I won the fight right away. AM order definetly doesn't matter, so there's no particular AM1 taunt. But it is interesting to hear that you need to activate the taunt to start.

The fight is also very easy, so there's little to no chance of failure. You're more likely to run out of time, than die. After everything involved in the quest, it's nice to see the ending as a fun and unique fight~ (Reminded me of FF7's ending fight~)

**Carrilei** · 2009-10-02 01:30

Originally Posted by Pergatory

Carrilei, let us know how it goes when you do your fight! I'm curious to hear if you end up having to gain TP using only the Death Penalty. That'd be nuts, but you should enter the fight prepared for that possibility. Farming trophies again would seriously suck.

I'm sure you'll hear from Fiendishone or someone else before me.. I had given up on it for half a year after I learned how Aftermath worked.

Maybe Spira's correct, and it's just perdu weapons that are fucking it up.

**jimbobsonofgod** · 2009-10-02 02:53

Well there was a ranger who completed wonder if he shot all 600 TP.

**Corrderio** · 2009-10-02 19:20

This thread makes me wish a COR was working on a DP...

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