Dyna - Sandy low man

[Hogie]

Ok so a couple friends of mine were thinking of doing some low man Sandy or Bastok runs for making money. Obveously 1 100 will pay for the run, but what we are wondering is what would be the best setup for something like Sandy or Bastok?

I was thinking the lowest to ever think it might pay for itself would be a manaburn of say 4 blms, brd, rdm and a thf. Any thoughts on this? We could also do TP burn but i thought manaburn might work better for these two zones?

If you are wondering what jobs we have access to, it will vary on who wants to come. Generally speaking it would either be a manaburn, or a very well geared TP burn (Ridill, Ebody that kind of well geared).

Any thoughts?

[Darkmoon]

My thoughts are that if you go with less then 12 your probably going to just break even on money unless you get a lucky early 100 off a stone.

you could do a ton of sac pulls for extensions, but if you want to clear mobs your going to just get some basic time issues.

Also for the love of god, make sure if you decide to do lowman you check the time slots and dont jump in a ongoing dynamis shells times. Nothing worse then having a new low man shell pop into your time slot and screw up the zone rotation.

we have 7-9 shells go on Mondays now 1 being JP that wont work with anyone (and tends to steal Xarc and glaicer only) the rest plan with each other and try to make sure we all get a fair zone rotation. If you have a heavy traffic Dynamis server, you can end up cock blocking a lot of shells just bumping one zone.

[MillionDollarMan]

IF you can get 12 people you will come out pretty good. I would farm sandy it's a lot easier to farm than Bastok because statues die with like 1 nuke.

[Furionstormrage]

Unless you're from a server that nobody believes in using any form of Dynamis calendar ><

As long as you have someone that knows how to pull the gates to avoid a huge link, you should be fine in Sandy with a small group. That's really the only issue that small groups that I know of have with that zone, and I'd offer some advice but I'm the worst puller to ever play this game.

[Vedder]

Don't forget possible Wootz Ore drops in Bastok if you are only in it for the money.

My LS sent 15 or so into Bastok recently while the rest of us placed 18 into Tavnazia and it was pretty successful considering the puller hadn't pulled in 2 years and it was an inexperienced caller. They got all time extensions except for the boss ;; and netted 150 single bynes... no 100s were obtained. The most trouble you'll encounter there is the pet Scorpions at the Chocobo stables, but if your WHMs are out of range and/or your mages silence the Scorpions it's not that big of a deal.

Sandy, well yeah, the main problem there is pulling the gates without huge links but the good news is you can wipe a couple times even and still kill quite a few mobs. Also, try not to link the entire street on the way to the East Ronf. gate nor link the auction house area and you're golden. There's not really any good synth mats from there, but the pieces sell for more than bynes almost always.

[MillionDollarMan]

In sandy if you time nuke the roaming stats the mobs will spawn with no aggro. You can basically skip those mobs. Bastok you should skip the stables on a small man run. With 15 in bastok we got about 480 coins (3 100s) and a sorry ass 4 wootz ores. I was expecting more wootz. Low man the only pull that was hard is the leather guild pull where the bst are.

Small man I always have got more coins in dynamis beaucedine for some reason. Seems like you will always get over 150 singles and a 3 100s.

[Quendi]

Funny this thread was made, b/c our ls (all five of us) just did this a couple weeks ago. We went Nin, Thf, Rdm, Blm, Blm, and one of the blm's was dualboxing a brd. I didn't expect us to do as well as we did. Cleared all time extensions save the ninja at the end of the west path. 150 pieces, no hundreds, so it could have been a lot better. Only 4 af's, so that could have been a lot better as well, but some of it was needed, so that was nice. No sack pulls were made the entire time. This zone can be pulled link-free pretty easily, and w/ 5 people, it pretty much has to be, lol. Very few deaths due to some ill-timed EES and ninja 2-hours towards the end when the mobs get pretty tough.

I would just say, don't do the manaburn thing w/ that few people. And don't go too heavy on melee either. Find the best balance you can. Rdm helped a ton w/ stat nuking, even though he was the only real cure. And make sure the puller knows what he/she is doing^^; It's definitely do-able w/ less than 12 though. Actually, our bigger ls group (9 when all of us make it) have done everything but CoP at this point, and have had much success. Personally I think everything but Xarcabard is possible w/ 5.

[fishstix]

I'm still relatively new in pulling, did sandy last night and I pulled 1/3 of the gate statues in the west, and 3/3 in the east link free.
<----28] <--25-->
Basically, I try to pull 25 when 28 had just turned around from the middle section. It helps if a rdm comes up with you and silences any of the caster mobs so they dont linger and link. I messed up the SMN pulls in Victory Square, 41-43, by trying to pull from the side, and ended up having a lot of smns on my ass ; ;

[Darkmoon]

the SMN pull can be done by the zone to North Sandy and never get a link.

The trick is to watch the pathing there are 3 of them side by side, but since they walk at diffrent lenghts the middle one will eventually be no where near they 2 edge ones.

the only bad part is if the 2 outside edge ones are side by side, if this is the cast those 2 will link.

So typically when the middle one starts his long walk back to the south. If you have an edge one near the north, you can pull it and stand aginst the wall in the NE cornor and wait till the SMNs come to you, this prevents them form pathing any bit south with their avatars. Once they get to you, then you can go south to where your allaince (party etc) is and only have 2 SMNs + 2 Avatars and 1 stone at a time.

Repeat for the other 2, then you can pull the 4th (Carby) stone form the north side and have them loop up around which prevents them form linking the AH stones.



South <------> North

.....|.........................<-----W----->
AH.|....[4]<-----------C------------>
.....|.........................<-----E------>

this isnt necessary if your a decent size group, but for a low man situation this can be very helpful.

[Kerberoz]

A maxed out BLM can oneshot the red-eye statues with AM2. Average BLM can probably do it on ice/thunder day. They won't pop any mobs. Blue/green don't "die" right away so they still pop mobs. Synch nukes do not work.

It's useful for killing a few extra statues so they don't link with the pulls you need to make. Especially the leather guild... you can oneshot the roamer and pull one statue at a time there.

Works for the first time extend in Xarca, too. Oneshot it and you'll only link 2 eyes and no demons.

[Eddard]

as long as your careful with your pulls and the ppl you bring pay attention, you can easily do dynamis sandy with 5ppl + 1db. got all time extensions minus the ninja NM @ the end of the alley.

my friends and i did it with:

nin/war
thf/nin
rdm/whm
blm/rdm
blm/whm
brd/whm

with me dualboxing a blm and the brd. got 4af and each made 200k from the currency sales.

[byte]

Funny this thread was made, b/c our ls (all five of us) just did this a couple weeks ago. We went Nin, Thf, Rdm, Blm, Blm, and one of the blm's was dualboxing a brd. I didn't expect us to do as well as we did. Cleared all time extensions save the ninja at the end of the west path. 150 pieces, no hundreds, so it could have been a lot better. Only 4 af's, so that could have been a lot better as well, but some of it was needed, so that was nice. No sack pulls were made the entire time. This zone can be pulled link-free pretty easily, and w/ 5 people, it pretty much has to be, lol. Very few deaths due to some ill-timed EES and ninja 2-hours towards the end when the mobs get pretty tough.

I would just say, don't do the manaburn thing w/ that few people. And don't go too heavy on melee either. Find the best balance you can. Rdm helped a ton w/ stat nuking, even though he was the only real cure. And make sure the puller knows what he/she is doing^^; It's definitely do-able w/ less than 12 though. Actually, our bigger ls group (9 when all of us make it) have done everything but CoP at this point, and have had much success. Personally I think everything but Xarcabard is possible w/ 5.

as long as your careful with your pulls and the ppl you bring pay attention, you can easily do dynamis sandy with 5ppl + 1db. got all time extensions minus the ninja NM @ the end of the alley.

my friends and i did it with:

nin/war
thf/nin
rdm/whm
blm/rdm
blm/whm
brd/whm

with me dualboxing a blm and the brd. got 4af and each made 200k from the currency sales.

lol. Same group?

[Quendi]

yes! Eddard has reading problems ^_~

[Eddard]

wtf i swear i did not see your post after reading this thread XD but ya same group haha

[tymora]

18 people, 12 blms, 1 THF/BLM and 5 RDM, BRD, COR support can wipe the zone, including boss and boss repops.

It was a random pickup group too

[Hogie]

18 people, 12 blms, 1 THF/BLM and 5 RDM, BRD, COR support can wipe the zone, including boss and boss repops.

It was a random pickup group too

18 people with 20 jobs! omg its unheard of!!! Im guessing you mean 3 rdm's but either way thats something i would want to try

[Xanthe]

18 people with 20 jobs! omg its unheard of!!! Im guessing you mean 3 rdm's but either way thats something i would want to try

I read it as 5 supporting jobs consisting of RDMs, BRDs, and CORs.

[Hogie]

I read it as 5 supporting jobs consisting of RDMs, BRDs, and CORs.

ahhhhh ok hahaha got it now



Either way great info thanks everyone