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    Validity of an AV strategy?

    So I was thinking, after I read how Genome soloed Sewer Syrup, and thinking about the kclub DRK zerg... Enspells don't give tp, since they're just bonus damage. What about a ton of MNKs with kclubs and an SCH/RDM with each party to enspell them with the day's element, and all pop Hundred Fists? Then after you take out a good chunk of his health with that, drop a party of MNKs to bring in a tank party...

    I dunno, I'm just weird in my strategies.

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    HP * .12 SE >> 15 enspell

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    Yeah if only we could figure out how to damage AV!

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    Enspells can get resisted, I think. Someone go see if AV takes regular damage from enspells.

    Your strategy probably won't kill AV but it might be lulzy and stuff, and with a MNK alliance you could actually drop a chunk of its HP, yeah.

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    Damaging it is not why people have issues killing it. Also if you're talking zerg then no absolutely not. One of the reasons KC+SE worked so well was because AV locked up switching modes during the zerg so it didn't tend to get any offensive spells or AoE WSs off. They changed that now though if you try to zerg it you're most likely going to get your ass aerogaed or meteored.

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    But enspells aren't HP-based and a MNK lives through Meteor; you'd have to have people curaga-bombing, of course. Said people will die because enspells don't give hate, but oh well. Maybe toss in two tanks or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orson View Post
    Damaging it is not why people have issues killing it. Also if you're talking zerg then no absolutely not. One of the reasons KC+SE worked so well was because AV locked up switching modes during the zerg so it didn't tend to get any offensive spells or AoE WSs off. They changed that now though if you try to zerg it you're most likely going to get your ass aerogaed or meteored.
    They changed AV locking up but they can't figure out how to make cures/abilities not lock players GG SE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headache View Post
    So I was thinking, after I read how Genome soloed Sewer Syrup, and thinking about the kclub DRK zerg... Enspells don't give tp, since they're just bonus damage. What about a ton of MNKs with kclubs and an SCH/RDM with each party to enspell them with the day's element, and all pop Hundred Fists? Then after you take out a good chunk of his health with that, drop a party of MNKs to bring in a tank party...

    I dunno, I'm just weird in my strategies.
    Why would you hundred fists with KC when 8 hits is the limit per round? You'd also be able to knock off around 20k if they all max boost chi blast. You probably actually could kill AV with 3-4 alliances switching off doing something like 18 chi blasts or something like that if you got lucky and no benediction. Good luck putting that together though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headache View Post
    So I was thinking, after I read how Genome soloed Sewer Syrup
    Yes................ sewer syrup?.................AV?....................Who can really tell the difference?

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    Chi blast builds resistance, and hundred fists doesn't add hits into an attack round, it shortens the time inbetween attack rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Chi blast builds resistance, and hundred fists doesn't add hits into an attack round, it shortens the time inbetween attack rounds.
    True, didn't put much thought into it seeing as none of this would really work.

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    One hundred Ninjas doing Mijin Gakure in waves of 18 at a time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
    One hundred Ninjas doing Mijin Gakure in waves of 18 at a time.
    Might not work... but I still want to see a video of this happening. someone please organize it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
    One hundred Ninjas doing Mijin Gakure in waves of 18 at a time.
    Yep, that's the idea! Then alliances of rngs EES, etc. just need 100+ people and no benediction. Simple!

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    Just keep thinking inside the box, yeah, that'll take him down. Just like everything else that's been tried took him down, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mojo View Post
    One hundred Ninjas doing Mijin Gakure in waves of 18 at a time.
    From IRC: (Ed) and a bard to pile fire threnody XD

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    Wouldn't Mijin build resistance like anything else since it isn't physical? Also, Mijin isn't fire based, it's.. normal magic damage? No elemental affinity, though.

    Orson nailed it right on the head on why AV wont be taken down without SE's "trick".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Wouldn't Mijin build resistance like anything else since it isn't physical? Also, Mijin isn't fire based, it's.. normal magic damage? No elemental affinity, though.

    Orson nailed it right on the head on why AV wont be taken down without SE's "trick".
    You missed a whoosh or two.

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    I bet, but the mijin thing was more for myself.

    Maybe the fire threnody thing was more of my pet peeve talking. Hate it when brds fire carol instead of keeping regular songs up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headache View Post
    Just keep thinking inside the box, yeah, that'll take him down. Just like everything else that's been tried took him down, right?


    From IRC: (Ed) and a bard to pile fire threnody XD
    Technically, some have, but didn't fit whatever fucked up definition of "legitimate" SE is working with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I bet, but the mijin thing was more for myself.

    Maybe the fire threnody thing was more of my pet peeve talking. Hate it when brds fire carol instead of keeping regular songs up.
    Tell them it isn't 2004 anymore.

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