Elegy nerf or HNM Buff?

[Lilswitche]

So if anyone's fought Cerb yet since update, ES Elegy seems to last about just under 2 minutes. ES+Troub Elegy lasting about just under 4 minutes.

I suppose this will need to wait for other server's to pop before confirmation. But, wow.

Edit: I would have posted some SS's, but I was lacking timestamp to prove it ; ;.

[benny]

So if those are ballpark numbers, it could be that he's now half resisting Elegy even when ES'd? Did you manage to land any without ES?

[Lilswitche]

So if those are ballpark numbers, it could be that he's now half resisting Elegy even when ES'd? Did you manage to land any without ES?

No a single one. I had tried quite a few times. Our RDM had managed to land para II a few times. Slow duration is something that I can't really comment on being that I wouldn't have been able to see the effect wear off.

[Shinsei]

My LS told me they fought cerb today, and yes, ES + Troub + elegy was under 4mins for us as well......

wasn't there for it but that's what I was told when I got on

[ErzaScarlet]

Fuck my life.

Just spent 30 mins spamming posts in general to get my post count up to 30 so i could start this topic and i'm too late.

Yeah we just fought cerb and elegy was retarded. 4Mins ES troup, 2 mins ES no troub.

Also we had some issue with building resistance to stun, and he was insanely difficult for the rdm to enfeeble.

Dont know if the stun thing was bad luck or not but never had cerb resist a stun before.

[Lilswitche]

Also we had some issue with building resistance to stun, and he was insanely difficult for the rdm to enfeeble.

Dont know if the stun thing was bad luck or not but never had cerb resist a stun before.

We may or may not have had 1 resist near the end... but we had 2 GoH go off somehow even when Cerb was stunned. It wasn't even a close call on the stun, they nailed it - but it somehow still went off. Cerb's just really screwed up.

I wonder if the same's going to happen at Khimaira later today >.>

[ErzaScarlet]

Doing this again and yes stun seems to be an issue. If you are going to use rdm/drk bring a dark skill build. Blm or Drks would be good too.

Khim is gonna be so homo if its effected as well.

[Renzy]

Well it's gonna be longer until people find out for sure, emergency maintenance is scheduled for 12pm est
Unless our Cerb decides to pop before it starts

[Darkslitter]

hmm that sucks, any idea if it is a less potent slow? KIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSCHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY WRU?!

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8179/needskirschy.png

[ErzaScarlet]

Felt Equally potent, I was tanking so with elegy on it felt fine, never had issue with recast timers.
Rdm who normally can enfeeble not being able to do shit was a bit of an issue. Since you have no back up when elegy wears.

I was solo tank since it was 8 am Est and not many ppl were awake.

Just watched another ls do it and Wipe to GoH spam, many resists on stun, and they had almost 16 ppl.

This shit is dirty lol, but TBH was getting too easy, not necissarily a bad thing, this game needs a difficulty curve.

Sarameya is gonna be a MOTHERFUCKER lol! Hi wasted pop sets.

[Arthars]

Sarameya is gonna be a MOTHERFUCKER lol! Hi wasted pop sets.

wtf are you talking abt....why has sarameya got to do with cerberus........

if you have tried both, you should know they are not comparable

who cares about sarameya's GOH, or elegy etc etc etc hes dead in 1 min w/o sp

as for cerberus getting tougher, not sure if this is good news or bad news

but yea, things need to be tougher

[Ahlah]

If elegy and RDM debuff nerf is intentional, SE probably do it to encourage magic evasion debuff, a very ugly way to promote nspell II/Death Blossom and Stutter steps.

[Destinye]

If elegy and RDM debuff nerf is intentional, SE probably do it to encourage magic evasion debuff, a very ugly way to promote nspell II/Death Blossom and Stutter steps.

God forbid you bring a DNC to anything. o.O

[Ahlah]

Not too bad in the case of Cerberus, DNC and RDM can at least TP off VT troll nearby.

[ErzaScarlet]

Well its dead, We brought an extra brd, so that elegy was always up.
Rdms were no able to enfeeble this, whm came/blm for eseal slow1 which helped some.

Stun resist was not an issue at all this time and there were about 14 GoH to stun I may have lost count. So now I don't know what to think of the resists on our 1st try or on ther other ls's attempt.

Final thoughts: I like cerb more now, at least from tanking PoV there is some challange added with elegy/slow nerf.

Too bad Khim didnt pop yet.

Wonder if this will be part of emergency maint, seems interesting.

[Amastacia]

If elegy and RDM debuff nerf is intentional, SE probably do it to encourage magic evasion debuff, a very ugly way to promote nspell II/Death Blossom and Stutter steps.

Well its dead, We brought an extra brd, so that elegy was always up.

Something tells me that rather than bring a DNC or melee RDM, everyone will just do what Erza did.

I would like to believe SE isn't that stupid, but who knows...

[TT]

Why do they do these ninja buffs to Cerb when the RoZ kings are still the same weak shits as they were when they got introduced.

[ErzaScarlet]

As for Serameya I was refering to the many ZNM ls that exist that do not Zerg and Do not camp cerb. If in fact there was a stun resist patch and if it also (intentionally or unintentionally) will effect Sarameya then then it is more than likely that these LS will have no idea until "Hi lost pop sets".

Next time I post something and you do not understand please do not assume the one who was incorrect was me.

Anyway since that post stun was sucessfully landed 14+ times so it may be a moot point.

[Arthars]

people who dont zerg sarameya are people who dont look at BG XD

and i did not say your incorrect.

i merely asked why you bring sarameya into the cerberus stun/elegy picture

Sarameya - FFXIclopedia - a Wikia Gaming wiki

apparantly, people who fight sarameya, be it zerg or "normal" strategy, knows it is near, or even 99%, immune to slow and elegy unlike cerberus, even with ES

and also, no one bother to eventually stun GoH on sarameya because he basically chainspell and uses goh as an instant WS......

if people are fighting sarameya as a normal cerberus, they deserve to wipe anyway since they dont do research. Fire resist is the way for sarameya(the "normal" method), and not about stunning sarameya's GoH and get a ES elegy in. Hence i said, sarameya and cerberus cannot be compared

Next time I post something and you do not understand please do not assume the one who was incorrect was me.

so yea, although i didnt say your incorrect from previous post, your now indeed incorrect from the above post, regarding bringing sarameya into the "stun and elegy is important" picture... and you seem clueless on how sarameya actually works. he is totally different from Cerberus. His NQ attacks does only 50 damage to PLD/WAR and hence elegy is not needed(he is immune anyway) for sarameya unlike cerberus....

seriously, you fought sarameya before?

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Rdm who normally can enfeeble not being able to do shit was a bit of an issue.

Some of your RDMs should be subbing BLM. Can your BLMs not stun or something? :X