The Silence of the Devs

[Pikko]

One of our editors has written a response piece to the silence of the devs regarding the enfeebling adjustment, which can be found here: Allakhazam.com: Final Fantasy XI: The Silence of the Devs

We're looking to have as much discussion stem from this article as possible to gain the attention of the dev team, who so far seem to be just sitting on their hands about the issue. I haven't been able to squeeze any response from them on my own and this article was written to keep the issue at the forefront.

I know you guys raise hell about SE's communication all the time, so I'm posting in the hopes that you can use this piece as another medium for doing just that.

[Dimmauk]

One of our editors has written a response piece to the silence of the devs regarding the enfeebling adjustment, which can be found here: Allakhazam.com: Final Fantasy XI: The Silence of the Devs

We're looking to have as much discussion stem from this article as possible to gain the attention of the dev team, who so far seem to be just sitting on their hands about the issue. I haven't been able to squeeze any response from them on my own and this article was written to keep the issue at the forefront.

I know you guys raise hell about SE's communication all the time, so I'm posting in the hopes that you can use this piece as another medium for doing just that.

I have a feeling they wont fix anything. They only time they fix something is when it gives the players an advantage. They will probably fix the Quick Draw thing before they fix Enfeebling debuffs and durations.

[Suited Aces]

imo they FIXED resists traits (not nerfed enfeebling) so they aren't just a placebo. I spent the first 4 years of playing wondering wtf my RDM's "resist petrify" did, because it certainly didn't stop me from being petrified, and it always seemed to wear off at the same time as non-rdms. So now players and mob family innate resists actually mean something. That's a good thing. Deal with it.

[Pikko]

While it would be nice, we're not even really looking for a fix, really, just some acknowledgement. Is this the precedent they're now setting? Are we only going to get half the details of the next version update? Or do we just not need to know anything anymore?

[Nekio]

They will probably fix the Quick Draw thing before they fix Enfeebling debuffs

OK I'm obviously out of the loop... what's the "Quick Draw thing"?

[Nekio]

double

[Wulfgang]

I've always found BRD's resist silence trait to proc quite often even before this patch.

[Wolfknight]

OK I'm obviously out of the loop... what's the "Quick Draw thing"?

see the other thread of unexpected nerfs and etc, someone was able do to us Quick Draw 20 times within 15 seconds I think.

[Ziero]

So wait, because they fixed resist traits and didn't tell us, SE automatically hates everyone in their player base?

And how is this one of the worst updates? ANNMs, FoVs and Augments are pure win.

[Gergall]

Perhaps because of the adjustment, the dev's silence will only last for half the standard duration?

(Witty response: Half of infinity is still infinity)

BTW to the person who said that they fixed Resist Traits: Okay, that's a somewhat valid point. But are resists really "fixed" if sleep is getting half duration on a level 1 rabbit in W Ronfaure?

[Suited Aces]

BTW to the person who said that they fixed Resist Traits: Okay, that's a somewhat valid point. But are resists really "fixed" if sleep is getting half duration on a level 1 rabbit in W Ronfaure?

I thought of that after I posted. I was just thinking of the leech/water resists that someone posted. But, afaik, nowhere in game does it say sleep is going to last 60 seconds, or whatever, it just always lasted that long. Maybe their new resist system does need some tweaks, but overall i think it's a step in a better direction.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Now I'm imagining Sundi as Buffalo Bill.

Awesome

[Seraph]

Hannibal Lecter: I will listen now. After FFXI's death, you were orphaned. You were ten years old. You went to live with cousins on a sheep and horse ranch in Montana. And...?
Clarice Starling: [tears begin forming in her eyes] And one morning, I just ran away.
Hannibal Lecter: No "just", Clarice. What set you off? You started at what time?
Clarice Starling: Early, still dark.
Hannibal Lecter: Then something woke you, didn't it? Was it a dream? What was it?
Clarice Starling: I heard a strange noise.
Hannibal Lecter: What was it?
Clarice Starling: It was... screaming. Some kind of screaming, like a child's voice.
Hannibal Lecter: What did you do?
Clarice Starling: I went downstairs, outside. I crept up into the barn. I was so scared to look inside, but I had to.
Hannibal Lecter: And what did you see, Clarice? What did you see?
Clarice Starling: Enfeebles. The enfeebles were screaming.
Hannibal Lecter: They were slaughtering the enfeebles?
Clarice Starling: And they were screaming.
Hannibal Lecter: And you ran away?
Clarice Starling: No. First I tried to save them. I... I opened the .dats, but they wouldn't run. They just stood there, confused. They wouldn't run.
Hannibal Lecter: But you could and you did, didn't you?
Clarice Starling: Yes. I took one enfeeble, and I ran away as fast as I could.
Hannibal Lecter: Where were you going, Clarice?
Clarice Starling: I don't know. I didn't have any food, any water and it was very cold, very cold. I thought, I thought if I could save just one, but... he was so heavy. So heavy. I didn't get more than a few miles when the sheriff's car picked me up. The rancher was so angry he sent me to live at the Lutheran orphanage in Bozeman. I never saw the ranch again.
Hannibal Lecter: What became of your enfeeble, Clarice?
Clarice Starling: They killed it.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FtfOXLIebc...s400/LM-11.jpg

[isladar]

And that's that.

[Gergall]

I thought of that after I posted. I was just thinking of the leech/water resists that someone posted. But, afaik, nowhere in game does it say sleep is going to last 60 seconds, or whatever, it just always lasted that long. Maybe their new resist system does need some tweaks, but overall i think it's a step in a better direction.

It needs some tweaks, and we're beta-testing their half-thought-out new resist system in the meantime.

Even if this really is a new resist system, and it is working perfectly according to their specifications, even if we go so far as to say that SE really intends for that level 1 rabbit to sleep for half duration in their new system, why is this not in the patch notes?

[Maxxthepenguin]

ok seraph.

you have won my love

imo they FIXED resists traits (not nerfed enfeebling) so they aren't just a placebo. I spent the first 4 years of playing wondering wtf my RDM's "resist petrify" did, because it certainly didn't stop me from being petrified, and it always seemed to wear off at the same time as non-rdms. So now players and mob family innate resists actually mean something. That's a good thing. Deal with it.

I like the change too. It made certain things much harder, but in good ways (Ein dogs are unsleepable now instead of being among the easiest mobs in the zone, and more fun stuff).

What I, and every other person, don't like is how they don't fucking say anything to us.

[Seraph]

ok seraph.

you have won my love

And the best part was, I already made that picture for the bannings. I love being lazy~



EDIT: My question becomes 'Do the devs even realize anything is wrong?' At this point, I would say it's 50/50.

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[Sofo]

OK I'm obviously out of the loop... what's the "Quick Draw thing"?

Mirke Wardecors with -5 QD allows for the user that during those 5 seconds of difference (the ones you didn't have prior to Mirke) you're allowed to fire as many shots without penalty.

Here's the link of the friend in my linkshell who found it out.

[Spungy]

Now I'm imagining Sundi as Buffalo Bill.

Awesome

It puts the red on it's skin, so it can be like Ferrari again.

[Sonomaa]

SE: Oh btw we have herpes
Playerbase: WHY DIDNT YOU SAY SO BEFORE YOU FUCKED US

its common courtesy to give a heads up when you make a major change like this, REGARDLESS of what it is, minor or major, we are paying to know this shit