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  1. #1
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    Ready has no recast; it's completely charge based

    Basically you can spam special attacks with your jug pet whenever they have 100 TP and at least one charge. Also, bought a few jugs off AH and checking their charge requirements. So far:

    FlowerpotBill (Mandy)

    Dream Flower - 2
    Head Buff/Wild Oats/Leaf Dagger/Scream - 1

    AmbusherAllie (Eft)
    Toxic Spit - 2
    Geist Wall/Numbing Noise/Nimble Snap/Cyclotail - 1

    VoraciousAudrey (Flytrap)

    Gloeosuccus - 2
    Soporific/Palsy Pollen - 1

    Antlion
    Sandblast/Venom Spray - 2
    Sandpit/Mandibular Bite - 1

    Crab
    Bubble Curtain - 3
    Scissor Guard - 2
    Bubble Shower/Big Scissors/Metallic Body - 1

    Lizard
    Infrasonics - 2
    Tail Blow/Fireball/Blockhead/Brain Crush/Secretion - 1
    ----Note: You cannot select Baleful Gaze at all. Interesting.

    Sheep
    Sheep Song/Rage - 2
    Lamb Chop/Sheep Charge - 1

    Tiger:

    Roar 2
    Claw Cyclone 1
    Razor Fang 1

    Fly:

    Cursed Sphere 1
    Venom 1

    Diremite:

    Double Claw 1
    Grapple 1
    Spinning Top 1
    Filamented Hold 2

    Beetle:

    Power Attack 1
    HiFreq Field 2
    Rhino Attack 1
    Rhino Guard 1
    Spoil 1

    Hare

    Foot Kick: 1 charge
    Dust Cloud: 1 charge
    Whirl Claws: 1 charge

    Sunwater - amigo

    Needleshot 1
    1000 Needles 3 (not a shocker)

    So far, looking like only the uber powerful are 3. Rest are managable. Due to 5 minute jug recast, can't do this super fast. If anyone else is testing, feel free to post.

    Edit: Damn, looks like it is charge based but it must have a hidden timer. While screwing around with the lizzie, I tried using Fireball once I got to 100% after the first TP move and nothing happened. Might be like Sic in that way still.

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    Good job and thanks for the news. No recast sounds very good, can just pound out TP moves whenever pet hits 100%.

    This means Pet Acc+ and Pet Haste items are going to be very desirable. Different jugs may also be useful for different situations, and Beast Affinity merits are going to be relevant.

  3. #3
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    Update: It appears that some TP attacks you cannot select period with Ready. Baleful Gaze with a lizzy does not appear. Anyone 75 BST to help test Amigo? I'm only 61 but can basically test everything else (at least base mobs).

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    Looks like most of the offensive TP moves only cost 1 charge. There is still hope 1000 needles may cost 1-2 charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taruking View Post
    Looks like most of the offensive TP moves only cost 1 charge. There is still hope 1000 needles may cost 1-2 charges.
    Or you can't even select it. Baleful Gaze for lizzies doesn't even appear.

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    More information, as i get it from my pets:

    Homunculus:

    Head butt, 1
    Dream Flower, 2
    Wild Oats, 1
    Leaf Dagger, 1
    Scream, 1

    ---------------

    Courier Carrie:

    Bubble Shower, 1
    Bubble Courtain, 3
    Big Scissors, 1
    Scissors Guard, 2
    Metallic Body, 1

    ---------------

    Shellbuster Orob:

    Cursed Sphere, 1
    Venom, 1

    EDIT: I don't have sun water with me, as I sold my last stack some weeks ago. If i can find cactuar roots (yeah right), i'll try >_>

    And oh, just for kicks, testing the different TP moves while Call Beast is up again. Dream Flower lasted 14 seconds on a colibri outside the city.

  7. #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shassira View Post
    More information, as i get it from my pets:

    Homunculus:

    Head butt, 1
    Dream Flower, 2
    Wild Oats, 2 (wth? xD)
    Leaf Dagger, 2 (ok...)
    Scream, 2
    Is that the black mandy? Interesting that they'd be different (have FlowerpotBill listed above).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Castoth View Post
    Is that the black mandy? Interesting that they'd be different (have FlowerpotBill listed above).
    Sorry, i corrected that, i was looking at the wrong side of the list. It's fixed now, my bad.
    Editing for Courier Carrie now.

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    Personally, I was always a fan of farming EPs with Sabre Siravarde. I actually xped that way for a few levels in the 50s. It's bad-ass to know you can make him Roar at the start of fights now or just toss out Razor Fangs every 100TP.

    Strategically it is a pretty cool way to start solo fights on BST. Zooleater hat, 300TP, Roar a group of monsters. Kite the crap away. Sabre already runs faster than everything anyway, so he'd have no problem making distance. Wouldn't be as durable as a slime or whatever though, but it's probably a decent option for situations where you don't have slimes available.

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    ugh... some information you guys may not like:

    Ready has a distance limitation. It's something between less than 20 and more than 15.9. Still testing it. If you do it too far away, you get the "Shassira is too far away." message and nothing happens (nothing is spent). Unsure if the range is from the pet or mob. Still testing, these things get TP slow.


    Range seems to be 24.9 from pet's position from what i can tell. (The previous numbers were from mob's position, pet was on the other side of it).

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    Quoted from Arrghhhh on Alla.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arrghhhh View Post
    Sunwater - amigo

    Needleshot 1
    1000 Needles 3 (not a shocker)

    1250 on ep colibra - Fun times hopefully the dam move can't miss...gonna pop one on some EM's if i can get a tank (going to do a few runs of the ash taif later).

  12. #12
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    So aside from Amigo what's the best jug and tp move to use for DD now?

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    So is this the end of Homunculus's Ancient magic casting days?

  14. #14
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    I have a stack of Sun Waterx12, so I tested

    (Yea that was my post on allah >.<)

    Needleshot: 1,
    1000 Needles: 3.

    They removed Photosynthesis, because it was majorly breaking the game ofc

    Also my jugs seemed slightly stronger.

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    I figured it would be charge based.

    I'm having trouble reading the monster ability listings. Do you mean to say that, for example, "Geist Wall/Numbing Noise/Nimble Snap/Cyclotail - 1" the monster will randomly select a move in that charge tier or that you can select every move and they all cost 1 charge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bozo View Post
    So aside from Amigo what's the best jug and tp move to use for DD now?
    It was funguar and now definitely will be funguar familiar(since you can just select Dark Spore or Silence Gas every time).

    Silence Gas and Dark Spore can hit upward of 500+ damage starting at level 60(though it never seemed to go any higher after that).

    Anyway the reason why it does that much damage is because it's a breath move and jug pets do have quite a bit of HP.

    Also, Funguars are cheap, they aren't crafted and they last a whooping 60 minutes. You buy them from an NPC in Kazham, around 8-9k per stack depending on your Kazham fame.

    Finally Funguars can reach level 75 thanks to BST affinity. The Tiger jug is stuck at 73 even with max BST affinity.

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    Technically wasn't it better before Ready? Instead of waiting like 6 minutes to do a good move you could get lucky with it on Sic and get it 2x in a row?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Relit View Post
    Technically wasn't it better before Ready? Instead of waiting like 6 minutes to do a good move you could get lucky with it on Sic and get it 2x in a row?
    Actually the recast time of the charges was last-minute changed from 2 minutes to 1 minutes.

    So with Silence Gas costing 2 charges and Dark Spore 3, if you don't care about Blinding the opponent with Dark Spore; you can always pick Silence Gas every 2 minutes, which was like the old Sic.

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    FungarFamilliar's moves are:

    1 charge moves
    * Frog Kick: - Single target attack
    * Spore - Single target Paralyze

    2 charge moves
    * Queasyshroom - Single target damage and Poison
    * Shakeshroom - Single target damage and Disease
    * Numbshroom - Single target damage and Paralyze

    3 charge moves
    * Dark Spore - Frontal cone damage and Blind
    * Silence Gas - Frontal cone damage and Silence

    Saber Siravarde move list
    1 charge moves
    * Roar - AoE Paralyze

    2 charge moves
    * Razor Fang - Single target damage
    * Claw Cyclone - AoE damage

    Other notes:
    `When you use one of the moves, that move becomes greyed out until you have enough charges to use that move again. You will also need 100%+ TP on your pet to use it. Trying to use the move without enough TP will result in a message like "Your pet does not have enough tp to perform that move".
    `To make a macro for a TP move it is written like this: /ja "Razor Fang" <me>
    Yes, the macro is targeted on yourself and not on the mob since sic was targeted on yourself and never on the mob.

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    Frogkick spam All Right!

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