LS + people who box

[Rehn]

How do some endgame shells treat people who box? I'm interested.

I currently box PLD + BRD for dyna (yes yes, lolPLDindyna) and have suggested something of an incentive for people who box extra effort like me.

Does anyone have rules or different clauses that treats them differently? Or puts their alts on an equal level vs. other members?

My shell may make changes regarding people like me, but I'm curious to know how others deal with it.

[Aurara]

Why would a mule get put on an equal status as a member? sounds stupid to me. People who dualbox should only get gear from the ls for the mules once other ppl have/its rotting.

[Darkmagi]

I would say it depends greatly on the skill of the person who multiboxes. I know some people are able to multi box well enough that it would be hard to discern that it wasn't 2 separate people playing.

[Aurara]

It shouldn't matter. 1 person shouldnt get an item twice before a person in the shell gets it once, no matter the play skill.

[dejet]

if the mule is used as much as the main, let em lot anything they want. If they use it *on and off* then no reason to unless others dont need said gear.

How I always played it.

The way I read you, you only do that one even like that. Unlike me who use to bring my rdm to every event and saw more daylight then some other full time members. I still passed on everything just because I was the leader and did not want to seem like an ass.

I dont know what one you dual box, but if your main is pld, do you main tank ever? is bard the second? if so do you bring it to most zerg fights, is it worth giving it gear to make it buff better or not. You have to do whats best for the shell not yourself or others.

[Aurara]

if the mule is used as much as the main, let em lot anything they want. If they use it *on and off* then no reason to unless others dont need said gear.

How I always played it.

But why block player A player who doesnt have a dalm, but you give the dalm to player B's mule because they're fantastic at 2 boxing(not like dalm should matter but w/e) over player A?

[Mistress Stowastiq]

I would say it depends greatly on the skill of the person who multiboxes. I know some people are able to multi box well enough that it would be hard to discern that it wasn't 2 separate people playing.

^
If a person is an asset to the party because of dual boxing they probably would accept it. The alternative would be some one who causes party members extra effort because they cannot multi-task and both of the db's characters duties suffer as a result of it.

[Rehn]

Well it was more of a question rather than anything. My alt isn't put on equal standing as others in dyna of course, and the jobs it has are mage based vs. my melee based main. So getting 2 chapeaus is out of the question. The leaders are just at a standstill because they don't know how to implement something to reward boxes, without being unfair to people who have only access to one.

So do some people just play by the ear and just deal with it as it comes? Guessing solid rules about dualboxers are kinda tedious to make...

[HappyTaru]

This is how I do it. Mains > mules. Most of my ls multiboxes so it's not really a biggie here. If none of the main toons want it, I'll let it go to the mules so it doesn't hit the floor.

[Darkmagi]

But why block player A player who doesnt have a dalm, but you give the dalm to player B's mule because they're fantastic at 2 boxing(not like dalm should matter but w/e) over player A?

If the 2boxed alt char was putting more effort/being more useful than the other person I see no problem with them getting the item.

[Aurara]

Well it was more of a question rather than anything. My alt isn't put on equal standing as others in dyna of course, and the jobs it has are mage based vs. my melee based main. So getting 2 chapeaus is out of the question. The leaders are just at a standstill because they don't know how to implement something to reward boxes, without being unfair to people who have only access to one.

So do some people just play by the ear and just deal with it as it comes? Guessing solid rules about dualboxers are kinda tedious to make...

I wouldnt put your alt on equal standing with anyone in the ls either, because thats fucking retarded. People play this game to gear up their characters, not to watch it go to somebody's mule where they already have the item on their main, thats just plain stupid. Dualboxers already have an advantage because they can have multiple characters at camps, which helps with making $ and with claiming if they choose to bot.

[dejet]

But why block player A player who doesnt have a dalm, but you give the dalm to player B's mule because they're fantastic at 2 boxing(not like dalm should matter but w/e) over player A?

Lets put it in a better way

player a(me)
player b(other person in shell)

item Rdm af2 hat. Something that will mean something in fights.

player A brings said rdm to most fights and even plays said rdm at events when his other jobs are not needed or rdm is needed more. I am on more and go to more events.

Player B is a full time but plays less then player A

why would player B get a item when it wont do any good for the LS. Now I would not let a mule get af2 say over a full time rdm who is at most events. Im saying that you need to look into who is getting what, if the mule is used more then the other member no reason not to give it to them

[Aurara]

If the 2boxed alt char was putting more effort/being more useful than the other person I see no problem with them getting the item.

Whats putting in more effort? Lets go back to player A&B, if player A attenda every single camp that he can make, assuming player B makes the same # of camps now. And lets just throw in the fact that player A misses a bunch of camps due to RL/the times dont work for him, but the one camp he can make hes not allowed to lot X item and it goes to player B's mule because he was able to make every single camp just seemed stupid and it turns people away.

[Aurara]

Lets put it in a better way

player a(me)
player b(other person in shell)

item Rdm af2 hat. Something that will mean something in fights.

player A brings said rdm to most fights and even plays said rdm at events when his other jobs are not needed or rdm is needed more. I am on more and go to more events.

Player B is a full time but plays less then player A

why would player B get a item when it wont do any good for the LS. Now I would not let a mule get af2 say over a full time rdm who is at most events. Im saying that you need to look into who is getting what, if the mule is used more then the other member no reason not to give it to them

But player B is a full time rdm, why is he denied the right to lot? Maybe he is unable to make shit because of outside forces, but if he works his ass off theres no reason to NOT give it to player B since player A probably has it, and its not fair to let somebody get an item twice before a player who has yet to get the item.

[dejet]

Whats putting in more effort? Lets go back to player A&B, if player A attenda every single camp that he can make, assuming player B makes the same # of camps now. And lets just throw in the fact that player A misses a bunch of camps due to RL/the times dont work for him, but the one camp he can make hes not allowed to lot X item and it goes to player B's mule because he was able to make every single camp just seemed stupid and it turns people away.

In that case you would be right give it to the full time person not the mule. What I was talking about was a rdm who shows up once every blue moon. Give the item to who earned it. If the mule did more work they should get it. That simple.

[Rehn]

I wouldnt put your alt on equal standing with anyone in the ls either, because thats fucking retarded. People play this game to gear up their characters, not to watch it go to somebody's mule where they already have the item on their main, thats just plain stupid. Dualboxers already have an advantage because they can have multiple characters at camps, which helps with making $ and with claiming if they choose to bot.

Like it says in the OP, it was a question more than anything. I never suggested such a thing, it was merely something to drive the conversation.

Also you keep remarking about how both the main/mule can and will try to get the same item... like I also suggested such a thing. I never even said anything close to that >.>

It can be helpful yes, but like I want to know, how do people reward that effort? Or at the end of the day, do you just give them a gold sticker and be done with it?

[Yabby]

99% of the people i see duel box suck at it. They should get nothing extra for splitting their already lack of skill and use in whichever event they are duel boxing in.

[Julian]

If the 2boxed alt char was putting more effort/being more useful than the other person I see no problem with them getting the item.

This.

If you just have a bard on another account that you sometimes bring but don't really play, that's one thing.

Someone who constantly plays two characters, very effectively, and always brings both characters when necessary without bitching, should be allowed to gear their mule.

[Aurara]

In that case you would be right give it to the full time person not the mule. What I was talking about was a rdm who shows up once every blue moon. Give the item to who earned it. If the mule did more work they should get it. That simple.

My argument is, why give it to a person who has the item ALREADY ON THEIR MAIN over a person who doesnt have the item on their main yet. My ls doesnt have a problem with this because we're capped on af2 hats, and buyers>mules always.

[dejet]

99% of the people i see duel box suck at it. They should get nothing extra for splitting their already lack of skill and use in whichever event they are duel boxing in.

ok 99% might but what about the person who can tank a HNM and be a blm ~_~
(hint hint)