WTF Jailer of Justice

[Alastaire]

We have wiped to this guy twice now, and I'm honestly starting to lose my mind over this. All the info I read on him, or one key piece of it rather, is very, very wrong. The general concensus was that the babies would spawn and attack whoever had hate on Justice at the time. I had even heard people say that they had a difficult time trying to pull the babies AWAY from Justice. Well, that's certainly not the case for us. Maybe for the first couple pops, but soon after the babies are making a BEE-LINE for the mages, generally the BLMs, tearing them apart, and making the whole damn fight fall apart. I'm not sure what we're doing wrong, honestly, I'm running out of ideas. Is there something I'm missing here?

[Tradition]

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[Alastaire]

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WOW THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP

[Grif]

4-5 BLMs with a BRD spamming Ballads in an outside party. Tier 3 nukes as they pop easy as that.

[Alastaire]

4-5 BLMs with a BRD spamming Ballads in an outside party. Tier 3 nukes as they pop easy as that.

That works great until your BLMs start dying before they can cast, which is what was happening to us.

[Grif]

How exactly are they dying?

Are they actually in the main alliance nuking JoJ?

[Alastaire]

How exactly are they dying?

The babies are spawning and making a literal bee-line for the BLMs, why, I have no idea.

[Grif]

When we do it the babies barely get to move before they die. Idk what to say, sub rdm or something never had issues with this Jailer

[Alastaire]

When we do it the babies barely get to move before they die. Idk what to say, sub rdm or something never had issues with this Jailer

No one has, that's why I'm so dumbfounded as to what our problem is with him. No one can comprehend why this is happening to us. ><

[Grif]

What kind of tanks are you using? Does this happen at the beginning of the fight or after he charms?

[Alastaire]

What kind of tanks are you using? Does this happen at the beginning of the fight or after he charms?

2 PLD/NINs, one NIN/DRK, all of which are very skilled tanks, doesn't happen right away, tends to happen a few mins in.

[_Zoolander_]

Just have a pld/war or somthing voke them as they pop and pull to blms? Are the blms outside of the JoJ alli? This has always been an incredibly easy fight every time I've done it, never heard of BLMs getting owned. Helll, they like it since they get some fast exp D: We just have melee's whm etc in main alli, and another allli of w/e BLMs we have and a pld to pull to them.

[Alastaire]

My LS only has 20 people, and we never have more than an alliance at any given event, so the BLMs are just in the main alliance.

[_Zoolander_]

Don't really have much more than 20 for this, idk, try putting the BLMs outside along with a pld? Not like JoJ is some powerhouse, 12 ppl can easily handle it, unless you have like no decent melees. Doesnt really seem like you should be needing nin/drk or pld/nin for this either. Its not Tiamat.

[Alastaire]

Don't really have much more than 20 for this, idk, try putting the BLMs outside along with a pld? Not like JoJ is some powerhouse, 12 ppl can easily handle it, unless you have like no decent melees. Doesnt really seem like you should be needing nin/drk or pld/nin for this either. Its not Tiamat.

Handling JoJ is fine, just the babies overwhelm us. Maybe having the BLMs outside the alliance will work, I dunno.

[Tythera]

My LS always does it with the BLMs outside even when we only have around 18 people, but I always intended that for when/if babies blew up it'd only damage those outside BLMs, maybe it does something other than that.

[aurik]

My ally does it with blms inside the ally, no hate problems.

[sephir]

just so you know this jailer doesnt aggro neither do the babies so there is no reason that you should be wiping. Just have a person come as a lvl 1 job and die > reraise > die > reraise to keep it out as you go over new strat/raise people.

[theo]

We did JoJ a couple weeks ago, and we kept the BLMs in a seperate alliance. I don't recall having any issues with BLMs getting hate off of babies right away like you are stating. For the most part the babies would go after (seemingly random) members of the main alliance. My understanding was that the babies had some sort of alliance hate, which explained why they would attack alliance members rather than the BLMs.

One nice thing about keeping the BLM in a seperate ally is that, should a Mijin go off, it only hits them rather than the entire main ally. Of course if your BLM are on their toes then Mijin shouldn't be a problem in the first place.

just so you know this jailer doesnt aggro neither do the babies so there is no reason that you should be wiping. Just have a person come as a lvl 1 job and die > reraise > die > reraise to keep it out as you go over new strat/raise people.

Just to verify, this does in fact work. We wiped to one of our JoJs and kept it up by dot'ing it while the rest of the alliance rested to full. Lost a bit of exp and it didn't even drop the damn torque, but eh, at least it didn't depop.

[Jhun]

Tank PT with 3 tanks to counter triple charm, JoJ hits like a robber crab so it's fine to tank him even with PLD/war with a healer and a refresher.
Second PT consist of DDs, whether you like them to be SMNs, WARs or BLMs it's fine the more time you take to kill JoJ the more XP you get.
Third PT (some linkshells prefers BLMs) consist of normal merit PT, 3-4 melee a BRD and a WHM for curaga. Once the baby has summoned just provoke him and throw in a couple or rampages or asurans and you'll set for the next one.
Fight ends with your ally getting like 500-750xp/merit.