NIN/DRK and MP

[Marsala]

For those NIN/DRKs out there. How much MP do you use/think is best to have without sacraficing ENM+gear. I have like 110 with no MP+ gear besides turban. Is this enough to last me in a BRD+RDM in pt situation?

[LinktheDeme]

For those NIN/DRKs out there. How much MP do you use/think is best to have without sacraficing ENM+gear. I have like 110 with no MP+ gear besides turban. Is this enough to last me in a BRD+RDM in pt situation?

i'm not too sure, I have 190 mp as /drk because i have 8 mp merits from other job + turban. I'd say 150 is a decent number but 110 might be manageable as well. I personally like 190 mp its safe and confortable.

[Sendra]

I sit at 110, and as long as my refresh isn't dumb, then I'm fine with that.

[Kiarax]

On the subject, are MP merits a decent option for Ninja? My only 75 is BLU and I'm now working on Ninja (very slowly, but working on it), is there any places where HP merits are a real help? Off the top of my head Proto-Ultima is the only place I can think of but I have no real HNM experience so was just wondering if anyone with more end game experience could tell me if going 8 MP was a bad idea before I waste merits on it.

[Shoju]

just considering NIN, i believe that HP merits help it out way more than MP merits. this isnt just in endgame content, this is even in xp or what have you. for you to decide between hp and mp merits id suggest you deciding how hardcore you will be playing nin; will it be your main job?; will blu be more of your main and you want nin to compliment it?; etc.

[Quixotic]

Refresh and one ballad is more than enough mp for a nin/drk to spam spells...only +mp equip I wear would be the turban

[Lyramion]

I have NIN and WHM leveled. I had 8 MP merit to start off - then changed it to 2hp 6mp - 60MP = BB ring + cassie

[_Zoolander_]

The only time I run into MP problems is when the RDM has a tough time keeping refresh up. Higher MP pool isnt really going to fix that though. I have 130 MP, with 2 MP merits that I wasted but dont really feel like changing.

More MP pool is nifty, but I wouldnt sacrifice anything, ESPECIALLY enmity and haste to get it.

[ZarakiKujata]

I have about 80-110ish MP depending on what I'm wearing, unless my rdm and brd are lazy about recasting ballad + refresh which happens alot depending on the bards(At our last Cerb both brds would afk for 5min+ at a time so songs and Elegy werent on that much ) Otherwise I never really have any problems with MP. Only MP gear I wear is a hades+1

[fantasticdan]

On the subject, are MP merits a decent option for Ninja? My only 75 is BLU and I'm now working on Ninja (very slowly, but working on it), is there any places where HP merits are a real help? Off the top of my head Proto-Ultima is the only place I can think of but I have no real HNM experience so was just wondering if anyone with more end game experience could tell me if going 8 MP was a bad idea before I waste merits on it.

Max MP isn't that great for blu outside of solo, since you will usually have refresh, and HP merits will help a tiny bit with breath spells, so I don't think it makes a big difference either way. Could always just go half and half, since it's way easier to merit that way.

[Livette]

For me it's not an issue of total MP ... more what your support is doing. I have 120~ can't remember and don't wanna check ... but it's more then enough if you brd and rdm are awake. With "just" a RDM I have enough to spam stun non-stop ... I've checked this. If your gonna use more than just stun (which you should), you'll need more then refresh ... so add spells into the cycle as depends on how much MP per tick your getting. When I NIN/DRK we usually have 2 brds in the tank pt ... one doing x2 ballad and one doing x2 haste ... works out well.

[Marsala]

Ok I counted it up. I have 91 MP with just Turban. How are you guys getting 110? My friend has that same and I can't figure it out. I could wear Ungur Boomerrang to get 99. But I am wearing that Nozi Shuriken for +2 ENM.

[Sendra]

Hume+Turban

[LinktheDeme]

Ok I counted it up. I have 91 MP with just Turban. How are you guys getting 110? My friend has that same and I can't figure it out. I could wear Ungur Boomerrang to get 99. But I am wearing that Nozi Shuriken for +2 ENM.

Racial Difference?

[Judai]

he's a lame ass elv.

get to ulli you nub and stop posting.

[Marsala]

I am not going! I am going to Byakko! And, /facepalm I forgot about race. Ya my friends a hume, I am Elvaan. And no we are not lame Jud!! Little tarus are the lame ones!

[LinktheDeme]

Humes get 80 base mp from /drk at 75 and elvaans get 61 base mp from /drk at 75. Mystery solved

And for fun Galkans get 31 MP and Tarus get 137 MP. Galkans get horribly shafted and tarus have too much. Didn't feel need to post mithra mp because mithra MP is same exact mp base as hume always if gear and sj is same

[Judai]

I am not going! I am going to Byakko! And, /facepalm I forgot about race. Ya my friends a hume, I am Elvaan. And no we are not lame Jud!! Little tarus are the lame ones!

Mars just mad cause my PLD has 600MP.

[RKenshin]

Max MP doesn't matter for NIN/DRK, I have anywhere from 70-120 depending on gear/food and I'll never run out of MP spamming stun/bind/sleep along with occasional absorb spells unless someone forgets to recast refresh and/or songs. Whether or not my max MP is 100 or 200 wouldn't really change it because I just about never run out of MP with ~100 to being with.

[Naramaska]

70-80 is about all you need. I usually have ~140 on NIN due to gear choices, but the only reason to need more than 50 MP is if you want to mix it up and start using abs-stat spells or don't have the MP/tick to support your recast timers. I've made do with as low as 40 MP before honestly when I mis-macro'd one time at Cerb and wore Cassie earring for nearly 20 minutes before I noticed.