Dynamis incentive @ lvl 80+

[Wrathbone]

I'm thinking of putting together a 12man 80+ (with upcoming version update) static to farm currency, in hopes of finishing my Anamo.(Stage 3)

My question is, what incentives could one such as myself, not running any type of event LS (points earned in dyna= points for items elsewhere) could I offer as incentive?

Best I've come up with its splitting the currency among the static, seeing that I'm in no real hurry to finish the Amano. I have not a solid figure in mind, but I'd definitely consider a 60/40-50/50 split, tho more flexible should I need be.

As level cap rises, a majority of AF2, (not implying all AF2 mind you), is becoming increasingly less useful overall.

Just looking for feedback, idea's from those that are used to leading dynamis, and events overall that may be facing the same lack of interest from members.

Would be nice to obtain a relic before the game runs it's course.I >may< do runs on my girlfriends toon to increase currency income should I find a formula that works.

Any feedback/idea's etc are welcome. Would be nice to obtain a relic before the game runs it's course. And I have my gf's Rdm to duo trials with, so that's a non issue. Anyway:

Thanks in advance.

[wop]

Why would 11 other people willing to take 50% while you take the other half BY YOURSELF?

Must have a lot of retards around.

[Plow]

12 people is not remotely necessary for currency farming at 80+.

If you're considering sponsoring, or something like a "sell enough to pay for next run and let me keep the rest so everyone else gets free dynamis," 6 people will be enough to save a fair amount of gil over buying easily right now, let alone as you go up past 80.

A 12 man group could easily farm a couple hundred per run 3+ years ago given average luck.


So, I guess to be concise, my advice would be get a small group of people willing to join something like that, you don't need to put yourself in the situation of trying to entice a bunch of people into something.

Keep in mind, while dynamis popularity has gone way down, abyssea has also opened up the possibility for a lot of people (especially maat's cap people) to easily cap out jobs they never would have touched again before.

[Byrthnoth]

Why would 11 other people willing to take 50% while you take the other half BY YOURSELF?

Must have a lot of retards around.

This, basically.

All the shell needs is a moderately wealthy person to create an endowment (~2mil) for the first few runs. When the currency from that sells, the person is repaid, 2mil is reserved for the "Glass Fund" and the rest go towards payouts. There's no reason for anyone to tolerate halved profits, especially if profit is the only reason they're doing Dynamis (per your assumptions).

[Chen]

anyone who joins a dynamis run where one person is taking 50%-100% of the currency is retarded. suggest buying coins at a slightly reduced price from the group, and that would only really be acceptable if you were leading & you're contributing far more than 95% of the members

[Dooom]

anyone who joins a dynamis run where one person is taking 50%-100% of the currency is retarded.

This is why /shout runs where the leader kept all coins were so common on Valefor! :3

[Vedder]

Why would 11 other people willing to take 50% while you take the other half BY YOURSELF?

Must have a lot of retards around.

Anyone else see the irony in this post? lol

[Nevex]

You have no chance but to recruit low quality clueless players who are willing to give up their coins for an AF2 chance if you want a large % of the coins for yourself.
Any self-respecting player is not going to ignore coins this late in the game, when Dynamis is (mostly) no longer attended for the gear. The days of easy relic farming by leading a mediocre Dynamis LS are long gone.

So either you make a large relic farming LS full of noobs (good luck with that) or aim for a solid low-man group and evenly split coins. In the long run there isn't much of a difference, depending on which server you're on.

[solanis]

Well, you have a lot of balls to come here and essentially ask, "how can I take maximum advantage of whitegate gimps?" The lack of interest doesn't come from a lack of interest in dynamis, it comes from a lack of interest in spending six hours a week slaving for the benefit of some retard (you).

Then again, if someone actually goes along with your proposed splits, they're retarded too.

[Worlace]

Your best bet is to do what someone said earlier, make it an incentive for people in the shell you make. We do in our shell, if you have a stage3 or above, you can sponsor some runs per month and buy currency at a slightly discounted rate. It usually amounts to splitting 6-10m in LS bank (mind you that's not dynamis only) per month to about 15-18 fulltime members, while relic seekers get to progress as well.

Or you could shout on Valefor, never knew that existed until we merged here. It's a big thing here. There are linkshells full of only shout members for dynamis.

[Altanass]

i miss manaburn dynamis, you just dont see that anymore

[Dooom]

Or you could shout on Valefor, never knew that existed until we merged here. It's a big thing here. There are linkshells full of only shout members for dynamis.

It's not only big, but a lot of people I met during my time there had trouble with the very idea that Dynamis could be done any other way if you weren't doing it in-house with a big HNMLS. Very, very strange, I still can't quite get over it.

[FailureMidgard]

As level cap rises, a majority of AF2, (not implying all AF2 mind you), is becoming increasingly less useful overall.

I'm a little confused at this, because it just seems...wrong.

AF2 I used for my jobs (that I actually play) and whether they remained useful:

Sam:
Hands, yes.

Whm:
Body, yes.
Hands, yes.
Legs, yes.
Feet, yes.
Belt, yes.

Rdm:
Body, yes.
Hat, yes.
Hands, yes.

Blm:
Hands, yes.
Legs, yes.

Brd:
Head, no, was replaced at 75 by Marduk. Otherwise, would still use.

Thf:
Hands, yes.

Summoner:
All of it I think yes (-BP delay).


People keep saying dynamis drops are less useful, but the vast majority of them were useless, or a macro swap for 1-2 things. The majority of them to me, seem just as useful now as they were at 75...A few select ones (Sorc Belt) became significantly less useful, but a lot of it really hasn't...

[Nightmarelord]

I'm thinking of putting together a 12man 80+ (with upcoming version update) static to farm currency, in hopes of finishing my Anamo.(Stage 3)

My question is, what incentives could one such as myself, not running any type of event LS (points earned in dyna= points for items elsewhere) could I offer as incentive?

Best I've come up with its splitting the currency among the static, seeing that I'm in no real hurry to finish the Amano. I have not a solid figure in mind, but I'd definitely consider a 60/40-50/50 split, tho more flexible should I need be.

As level cap rises, a majority of AF2, (not implying all AF2 mind you), is becoming increasingly less useful overall.

Just looking for feedback, idea's from those that are used to leading dynamis, and events overall that may be facing the same lack of interest from members.

Would be nice to obtain a relic before the game runs it's course.I >may< do runs on my girlfriends toon to increase currency income should I find a formula that works.

Any feedback/idea's etc are welcome. Would be nice to obtain a relic before the game runs it's course. And I have my gf's Rdm to duo trials with, so that's a non issue. Anyway:

Thanks in advance.

if you need to rely on people, jewing people, ect, for a relic. you're doing it wrong. the only time u need people for when it comes to a relic weapon is for the frag fight and the atst fight. other then that its a solo mission. fuck all that sponsor shit and the ripping people off for af2 shit.

[Nameless]

DRK:
Legs (Darkmagic)
Body (MAB for lolinferno scythe...)
Feet (Enfeebling)
Cape (Good for all casting)

Drg:
Body (Wyvern Sub)
Helm (HB and EB)
Belt (not bad for jump)

Pld:
Body (Cover macro)
Hand (Bash damage)
Head (Rampart macro)
Feet (Sentinel)
Cape (decent cure IV cheat piece)

Useful stuff, especially those that you swap in for certain JA, are always going to be useful. Those are just 3 of the 4 jobs that I have, and there are plenty more for other jobs.

[Jeryhn]

Anyone else see the irony in this post? lol

Load and clear here. Level 14 PLD with an Aegis says hi.

[cdgreg]

Wow I can't believe people here are acting like this is something so sinful and rare. Maybe you're asking the wrong crowd, obviously BG is a bunch of elitists who don't think it's fair that you take half the profit when you put in the time to organize and lead the run. However, if you looked at some of their LS leaders gear vs the common member I think this is exactly what you'd see.

Anyways, dipshits in Whitegate/Jueno will gladly take some "free gil" in addition to the opportunity to free-lot on af2 for the jobs they have at 75+. I know there were some endgame JPs from an affluent LS on Odin that for the longest time setup /sh dynamis runs in whitegate days beforehand and sponsored the run. It worked out well for them. I don't think you will need 12 as someone else mentioned, I'd say tank, sleeper, THF puller are the important jobs, then a few DD to round it out.

Currency has died on Odin, I think people are waiting to see what happens to prices when everyone is level 90 in a month and can lowman dynamis even easier if they so desire. Lastly, I think the person who mentioned Af2 is becoming outdates is expecting a lot more gear at the next level cap increase. As many mentioned I still utilize quite a bit of situational AF2 on blm, rdm, cor, and rng.

[aduidarnenye]

My regular linkshell recently made Dynamis and Einherjar mandatory attendance, after my husband and I joined the shell for lack of mandatory events (we went to most events, we just like not being required to go to most events).

They did this because a small group of people started doing Abyssea exp a lot and stopped attending Dynamis. They feel they need 30+ people to win/clear zones. I suggested that this is not a wise policy, especially considering that the small group of people immediately dropped their linkshells anyway and it only affects the ones remaining.

I forgot to mention that another bad reason for this policy was that the level cap increase will likely reduce the desire to do Dynamis at all plus we won't need that many people anyway.

[Meian]

AF2 I used for my jobs (that I actually play) and whether they remained useful:
Whm:
Body, yes.

>_>

I hope you're referring to the Regen portion of the body and not as a Noble's replacement.

But other than that I agree that AFv2 is still useful currently.

[FailureMidgard]

Wow I can't believe people here are acting like this is something so sinful and rare. Maybe you're asking the wrong crowd, obviously BG is a bunch of elitists who don't think it's fair that you take half the profit when you put in the time to organize and lead the run. However, if you looked at some of their LS leaders gear vs the common member I think this is exactly what you'd see.

Anyways, dipshits in Whitegate/Jueno will gladly take some "free gil" in addition to the opportunity to free-lot on af2 for the jobs they have at 75+. I know there were some endgame JPs from an affluent LS on Odin that for the longest time setup /sh dynamis runs in whitegate days beforehand and sponsored the run. It worked out well for them. I don't think you will need 12 as someone else mentioned, I'd say tank, sleeper, THF puller are the important jobs, then a few DD to round it out.

Currency has died on Odin, I think people are waiting to see what happens to prices when everyone is level 90 in a month and can lowman dynamis even easier if they so desire. Lastly, I think the person who mentioned Af2 is becoming outdates is expecting a lot more gear at the next level cap increase. As many mentioned I still utilize quite a bit of situational AF2 on blm, rdm, cor, and rng.

Currency prices have definitely dropped on Phoenix, but are far from dead...they are back to where they were like 1.5-2 years ago, aka, more realistic. I think alternatives to relics and trials are turning some people off, but relics if you do the trials are still the #1 weapon for most jobs, so I don't see currency ever becoming completely worthless...though as trials get more and more backed up, who knows, maybe it will become so tedious nobody at all will consider a relic. On the other hand, Alexandrite seems to be going up in price (less active salvage groups?). Speaking of, if anyone has large quantities of Alex they want to get rid of, let me know!

Also, as for the dyna comment, I think most of us realize it happens, but that doesn't make it any more right or fair. Though, that being said, I don't see anything wrong with a leader/organizer getting more, but 50% seems a bit past realistic.

>_>

I hope you're referring to the Regen portion of the body and not as a Noble's replacement.

But other than that I agree that AFv2 is still useful currently.

Obviously. Legs and feet I both meant for barspells too. Would you like me to confirm that I use cure potency in my weapon slot as well? Point is it is as useful as it always was, and is worth carrying IMO.