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    Regarding Specific Notorious Monsters (AV + PW + JOL)

    http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/pol...ews13981.shtml

    The past two weeks have seen considerable feedback from players regarding the amount of time required to combat the Pandemonium Warden, a recently implemented Notorious Monster (NM). Discussion has spread significantly throughout forums, and it has become apparent that this is indeed an issue of major unrest in the community.

    We would like to assure players that the development and management teams place a high value on their feedback, and the issue has since been taken under serious consideration. Together with Absolute Virtue, it has been deemed that the combative techniques for weakening these NMs are too difficult. As a result, some players have engaged these enemies using unanticipated methods which led to extended battle times. It is by no means the desire of the development team to see players involved in encounters that require an excessive amount of time and effort to complete. It was for this reason that previous measures were put into practice which prohibited NMs from being held in battle for prolonged periods. In response to these events, we have determined that further alterations are required to prevent such battles from exceeding a certain predetermined length of time.

    Included in the version update scheduled for early September will be modifications to the degree of difficulty of Pandemonium Warden (and associated pets), Absolute Virtue (and associated pets), and Jailer of Love. The aim of these changes is to create battles where a decisive outcome may be reached within a shorter period of time.

    The development and management teams would like to take this opportunity to express their commitment to a healthy and wholesome game environment for players everywhere to enjoy, and to thank them for the continued feedback.
    edit: Epic post of JP thoughts by Elmer on page 7. Much thanks for this Elmer


    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showp...&postcount=204

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    Wow, finally they respond. Surprised they put JoL there too.

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    are you fucking kidding me ?
    if not, POSTING IN AN EPIC THREAD !

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    Hory shit!

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    Hmm, after these 'changes' are implemented, will anyone still want to attempt PW?

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    bout time

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    My concern is the wording.
    It doesn't sound like a straight "we're nerfing". It lends itself to "You didn't accomplish a certain amount of actions (dmg) in a certain amount of time so the monster will do something stupid to end the fight" (despawn?)

    But I'm sure this won't be the case....right guys?

    edit: or maybe they'll give them rage timers lololol
    edit2: don't take this post seriously. pointless speculation is pointless

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    I love when companies say they are "taking things seriously" or some derivation...http://consumerist.com/search/taking%20it%20seriously/

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    LOL

    PW was to be expected but... AV? really? you mean, they DID intend us to kill AV? :D

    Cant' wait to see what they have in mind ^^

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    EPIC

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    So they seem to be saying "there's a trick to AV and PW [and I guess JoL? lol] that you guys never figured out." Sounds like something that could be BS anyway, but assuming it's not I know a lot of people--including myself--would like to know what that trick was originally supposed to be (for AV at least).

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    Changes: AV and PW will, if not fought using the correct techniques, despawn after a period of 2 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delekii View Post
    Changes: AV and PW will, if not fought using the correct techniques, despawn after a period of 2 hours.
    atleast you know you did something wrong then...
    If AV would despawn everytime the wrong strategy was used we would prolly have figured him out by now...

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    now that I read it, it alternately sounds like they're going to cut the bullshit "weakening" phase, or make the mob flip a shit and kill everyone if you try to fight it without weakening it

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    So, all it took was a bunch of internet blogs/news sites/etc to get them to change AV? And all it took was... >.> I forgot how long... But why JoL again?

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    It was for this reason that previous measures were put into practice which prohibited NMs from being held in battle for prolonged periods.
    after reading that, idk if i can believe the rest of it.

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    Reactiva...wait no.

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    Toasting in an epic bread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kayn View Post
    My concern is the wording.
    It doesn't sound like a straight "we're nerfing". It lends itself to "You didn't accomplish a certain amount of actions (dmg) in a certain amount of time so the monster will do something stupid to end the fight" (despawn?)

    But I'm sure this won't be the case....right guys?

    edit: or maybe they'll give them rage timers lololol
    Sadly, when I read that line my initial thought "Rage Timers".

    I guess that is what we call "Pavlovian conditioning".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirbyprime View Post
    So, all it took was a bunch of internet blogs/news sites/etc to get them to change AV? And all it took was... >.> I forgot how long... But why JoL again?
    maybe you cant change AV without changing JoL...

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