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    Soloing sky triggers as blm

    I've never really been big on blm solo, but I both need something constructive to do with time, and I really need to make some gil, so this seems like an option.

    My question is thus: What triggers can I actually solo, and how do I go about doing it?

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    Despot - Very easy if you have gaiters, still pretty easy if you don't. Keep bio 2 up and kite around the pond at I-10/I-11. Idle in a refresh body and stun as necesssary, you can try to bind then use a big nuke whenever you gain a distance from bad mob pathing(or drain! it's incredibly mp efficient).

    Zipacna - I could swear I heard of this being done with manafont and binds, but it's not anything easy and you're best off leaving it alone.

    Faust - I'll call this impossible.

    Mother Globe - Impossible.

    Steam Cleaner - Bind, bio, run, repeat. Very little margin for error, you have a finite mp pool and no way to kite it for long periods of time.

    Brigandish Blade - Obviously impossible due to knife.

    Olla Pots / Ro'maeve water - You can farm water and sell it as is from the pots alternate to kirin spawn(it does drop there and it's much safer). Olla is impossible.

    Diorite / Ullikummi - This is, by far, your best bet. You'll get adequate buffer/merits while killing statues, raxas npc for 8k each and golem shards for 1k, and plenty of people pay upwards of 500k for you to use a diorite for them. Autumnstone is even better, and pretty easy to solo. Pull it to the portal room and kite around, keep bio up and drain/aspir ONLY when it's casting or just stunned from you outranging heavy blow.

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    Thanks. For some reason I'd totally forgotten Ulli exists.

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    Zipacna/Steam Cleaner you could probably nuke/zone assuming no competition yeah? thats kind of a viable way to do them and its pretty safe (again, assuming no competition to steal from you while zoned)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phla View Post
    Zipacna/Steam Cleaner you could probably nuke/zone assuming no competition yeah? thats kind of a viable way to do them and its pretty safe (again, assuming no competition to steal from you while zoned)
    That in itself makes it not viable. People don't take their eyes off me while I'm fighting Zipacna.

    That said, there's absolutely no possible way a BLM could solo Zip without zoning, to clarify for an above poster. Bind is never a sure thing with him, and if I don't peg him with a Slow2, even my RDM has trouble tanking him.

    Despot and Ulli are good ideas though, albeit, Despot may be more trouble than he's worth.

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    Well, after attempting statues, and getting roundly owned, I need to get better gear and merits. Being bloody awful at soloing on blm doesn't help me much of course

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    I like to think my BLM has pretty darned good equip and 8/8 merits on enf and ele and the darn statues -still- resist nukes as well as bind and sleep like no one's business.

    This is not to say they're not doable. Just takes patience, and a quick mind for when they decide to be a pill and resist four sleep spells in a row.

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    Just kite around the porter until recasts are ready if they resist too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    Despot - Very easy if you have gaiters, still pretty easy if you don't. Keep bio 2 up and kite around the pond at I-10/I-11. Idle in a refresh body and stun as necesssary, you can try to bind then use a big nuke whenever you gain a distance from bad mob pathing(or drain! it's incredibly mp efficient).
    i doubt blm could consistantly bind despot. when i did it on rdm with 2-3 enfeeble merits, and 2 ice acc merits (iirc i believe i had 305 enfeeble skill, 60+~37 int, aquilo's and the +6 macc from ice acc merits at the time) and it landed maybe half the time? blm with the best enfeebling set is still going to be worse off then that.

    Steam Cleaner - Bind, bio, run, repeat. Very little margin for error, you have a finite mp pool and no way to kite it for long periods of time.
    it's actually a very easy fight. you can kite it around allll day. the onry trouble with this is when the detectors repop, but you can take them out with a single tier3 nuke. if you aggro one, you can always recast dots, die, RR kill detectors and pull olla back before it regens.

    when it loses hate, i believe it will reclaim if you get within... ~15' from it or so, but a ranged attack helps quite abit, by letting you pull it from further away. blm can use tathlums or pebbles for this. or rune bow+rune arrows lol.

    Olla Pots / Ro'maeve water - You can farm water and sell it as is from the pots alternate to kirin spawn(it does drop there and it's much safer). Olla is impossible.
    it's not impossible...but it's certainly close. i can definatly see this taking 3-5 hours if you're unlucky with spectral barrier. but it's not up 100% of the time (however it's pretty close on grande), and you can certainly get it down sooner or later. if you get locked in one of the rooms while casting dots, you're pretty much dead. a mule to stand at the switch can make the difference of losing your water, or losing a few more hours of your time killing it <.<

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    I've gotten Despot down to ~80% as BLM, and only didn't kill him because he went yellow and, FFXI etiquette took its course. My BLM Enfeebling set is pretty lackluster, and Bind was never an issue.

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    One of my LS black mages has soloed despot; I believe he was BLM/RDM and used gravity when bind wore, the same as you would on red mage. I don't think he went to the pool either, I'm pretty certain that he kited it near the shrine entrance. I imagine it got pretty sticky, but it is entirely doable.

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    Despot is incredibly easy to Bind and if you can't Bind him on RDM, you are doing somehting horribly wrong. Zipacna would be extremely difficult. I've solo'd him to 50% using Bind/Nuke/Zone and dots but that's when I ran out of MP.

    Most of these fights are only doable by RDM because of their basically infinite MP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoot View Post
    One of my LS black mages has soloed despot; I believe he was RDM/BLM
    wut

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    Ok wow, lol. Anyways, the same as you would do on red mage is if you're soloing a mob and bind doesn't stick, you would cast gravity. I'm very sorry if that was difficult to understand. There is no reason to be so insulting.

    Oh...haha. Now I see where it came from, my mistake. He was BLM/RDM.

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    >_>

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    Even still, it's a fairly obvious typo since I said he was an LS black mage.

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    Not calling you a liar, but a finite MP pool is hardly the issue with Black Mages soloing Zipacna. His total HP is pretty laughable, its the him running twice as fast as you, smashing you into oblivion because of your lack of adequate defensive abilities part that's the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rog
    i doubt blm could consistantly bind despot. when i did it on rdm with 2-3 enfeeble merits, and 2 ice acc merits (iirc i believe i had 305 enfeeble skill, 60+~37 int, aquilo's and the +6 macc from ice acc merits at the time) and it landed maybe half the time? blm with the best enfeebling set is still going to be worse off then that.
    Aside from the fact it's entirely irrelevant if a bind resists as long as you cast it from the other end of pond so you still have a lead, my mule has ~60% stickrate on despot with uncapped enfeebling skill and aquilo's + a few cheap pieces of enfeeb gear on blm.

    Quote Originally Posted by rog
    it's actually a very easy fight. you can kite it around allll day. the onry trouble with this is when the detectors repop, but you can take them out with a single tier3 nuke. if you aggro one, you can always recast dots, die, RR kill detectors and pull olla back before it regens.

    when it loses hate, i believe it will reclaim if you get within... ~15' from it or so, but a ranged attack helps quite abit, by letting you pull it from further away. blm can use tathlums or pebbles for this. or rune bow+rune arrows lol.
    Or you could use some degree of intelligence and kite in the tunnel near zone that has about 80' of running space with no mobs instead of expecting a BLM to have the 250 mp to waste nuking 2 detectors every 16 minutes. Single refresh = 20/minute, 16 minutes = 320 mp total and you should be casting 8 bios at 36 mp each(288 mp) in addition to occasional drains when it's safe. Aspir is an additional 100 mp/10 min at best on steam cleaner, it's incredibly unreliable.



    Quote Originally Posted by rog
    it's not impossible...but it's certainly close. i can definatly see this taking 3-5 hours if you're unlucky with spectral barrier. but it's not up 100% of the time (however it's pretty close on grande), and you can certainly get it down sooner or later. if you get locked in one of the rooms while casting dots, you're pretty much dead. a mule to stand at the switch can make the difference of losing your water, or losing a few more hours of your time killing it <.<
    Olla grande has auto regen and loves to cast regen, BLM/WHM has jack shit damage mitigation since you don't get time to cast stoneskin and BLM/NIN can't heal themselves worth a shit through barrier or erase mysterious light(which WILL get off and WILL end you). The only way a BLM is soloing olla is if someone clears all pots on the whole fucking floor.

    All I'm seeing here is some mediocre RDM who thinks soloing the easier sky triggers on RDM means anything giving bad info on a thread regarding BLM solo.

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    why would you go BLM/WHM to solo sky stuff? >_>

    Free reraise ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tajin View Post
    why would you go BLM/WHM to solo sky stuff? >_>

    Free reraise ?
    i think he means for erase for mysterious light (gravity) for olla

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