Rate your relic weapon

[MillionDollarMan]

I wanna hear from relic holders how do you feel about your purchase. If you could rate each relic you have from 1-10 it would be cool. Any screenshot damage would be cool too.

[MillionDollarMan]

I just wanna hear from people that actually have the weapons. So far I heard every relic sucks from people that DON'T have them. I'm about to trade in my items for a weapon.. I just wanted to hear from relic holders.

[SamanosukeShiva]

if people say it sucks you gonna toss the items?

[Drace]

Amano: 9.5/10 for the events I am involved in. (-0.5 because I would like to see STR as a larger Kaiten modifier ala Y/G/K)

Edit: actually I also wish Kaiten would have an added effect similar to the Kasha Para, Gekko Silence, Yuki Blind - highly underrated for small group activities/ soloing imo.

[Neosutra]

Aegis: 7/10.

Because the 70% of the time it blocks I love it and the 30% it doesnt I want to choke baby seals into the void of non existance.

But ya, I am a pld all the way so Aegis is great, but in melee DoT reduction is is only fractionally better than Keonig. That combined with other -magic damage equipment makes it less "HOLY SHIT" than people make it out. This can be said for any weapon, as all the relics are marginally better than their next best.

A good pld doesnt need aegis, but a good pld can do amazing things with it.

I dont regret doing aegis for a second, but there are times I would like to have had a bit more fun with one of the weapons.

[Therin]

Aegis: 7/10.

Because the 70% of the time it blocks I love it and the 30% it doesnt I want to choke baby seals into the void of non existance.

But ya, I am a pld all the way so Aegis is great, but in melee DoT reduction is is only fractionally better than Keonig. That combined with other -magic damage equipment mage it less "HOLY SHIT" than people make it out. This can be said for any weapon, as all the relics are marginally better than their next best.

A good pld doesnt need aegis, but a good pld can do amazing things with it.

I dont regret doing aegis for a second, but there are times I would like to have had a bit more fun with one of the weapons.

I don't have an Aegis, but I know this man speaks truth, and I agree with every word of this post. I just wanted to quote it to show emphasis on how good of an overview on the relic it actually is.

[algrensan]

Amano: 9.5/10 for the events I am involved in. (-0.5 because I would like to see STR as a larger Kaiten modifier ala Y/G/K)

Edit: actually I also wish Kaiten would have an added effect similar to the Kasha Para, Gekko Silence, Yuki Blind - highly underrated for small group activities/ soloing imo.

i'm with you on the kaiten modifier vs y/g/k on high def mobs/hnms, etc. however, i'd probably give amano something more like 8/10. i like the store tp effect for my 6-hit setup but orz at 1-hit ws hit or miss. at least the attack down is somewhat more useful than other relics.

[Meat]

0 regrets about Apoc, 9\10 i would like better mods\damage with cata but the weapon totally changes the job. Can tank anything with the best of them now, never have to worry about being an mp sponge in xp, full time hasso for most things+26% haste is godly

[MillionDollarMan]

any Kikoku or Ragnarok owners around?

[Lordwafik]

7/10 Mandau. It's an amazing weapon, great WS , STR mod.
Loses 1 point for having Add effectoison, instead of something useful.
Loses 1 point for having Add effect:crit hits on mercy stroke, effect is barely noticable
Loses 1 point for not being an amazing thing to have on HNM. All relic WS should ignore level difference and defense Doing 500-900 mercy on NMs doesn't make me happy.

[Wizerd]

7/10 Mandau. It's an amazing weapon, great WS , STR mod.
Loses 1 point for having Add effectoison, instead of something useful.
Loses 1 point for having Add effect:crit hits on mercy stroke, effect is barely noticable
Loses 1 point for not being an amazing thing to have on HNM. All relic WS should ignore level difference and defense Doing 500-900 mercy on NMs doesn't make me happy.

I've only had my Mandau for 4 days but I'd say 8/10. The first 2 points I agree with you on, but I've managed to pull up more than 500-900 on some things where I've only done 500ish in the past with DE/SB on. I haven't had a chance to fight a Salvage boss with it yet though.

If I could trade the Attack+20 for Accuracy+20, I would, but all 1H relics have Attack and all 2H relics have Accuracy. Woe is me, etc.

The only real complaint I've had so far is that I still need to eat Sushi at most things despite 2 minute Feint. Once I get a few pieces of Homam and a Toreader's Ring, I should be golden, and then I'll boost Mandau to 9/10.

[Ayn]

You finally got your Mandau, Wizerd? Grats!

[kisada]

personal rating scales are totally subjective, so me saying my kikoku is a 7/10 isn't the same as someone else saying their horn is a 7/10.

either way i'd say 7 on the katana. maybe even 6. the attack is good, delay is good, but...

ws isn't something i typically use over jin, paralyze proc while occasionally useful isn't something i'd ever rely upon, and relic effect is enhanced subtle blow. furthermore, the triple proc doesn't happen nearly enough, and is worsened by the fact that you are forced to off-hand a weapon that gains zero benefits of that proc. it's probably 5% or less just eye-balling it (though i do think i tested it a while back), but having to swing something else means you're swinging less of the relic.

change the ws mods from dex to str, make attack into acc, change subtle blow aftermath into something semi-useful like crit/haste, increase triple proc rate, make paralyze actually WORK on harder mobs...

any single of these would have made for a much nicer weapon.

[Stanislav]

I have 4 relics and the only one I will say was worth the money would be Apocalypse. As said above it totally changes the job because to tell you the truth I never used DRK before I got it because I HATE the job (I used WAR/SAM before), Apocalypse made DRK my favorite job in the game. It changed the way I played many aspects of the game including Merit/Salvage/Nyzul. The weapon skill is beyond broken because even though the damage is not the best, it is still quite good, and after every weapon skill you get nearly a Cure IV and +10% haste. Apocalypse deserves more then 10/10 in my book. Aegis and Mandau are not that amazing aside from the visual aspect of them to be honest, and Excalibur is quite an amazing relic but only has real uses in certain HNM scenarios.

[Tsuko_Asura]

I certainly don't own a relic, but I'm deeply annoyed at the fact that 2H weapons get a pretty significant edge in native accuracy over 1H, yet the Attk/Acc on each respective class of weapon has never been addressed.

<_<

[Fodder]

Annihilator:

9/10 at bird camp. It would be 10, but it makes Archain cry when Mercy Stroke gets the lovely "too far away'd" because I punched a bird in the head for 1100 dmg thereby inciting it to come over to peck me. I secretly enjoy this because it makes him angry, maybe it should be 10 after all.

8/10 on Odin - but after last night I think the enmity down after effect is borked with this last update - Odin kept coming over to smack me after each Coronach which hadn't occurred before.

4/10 on most everything else because, well, shooting shit like Gurfurlur for 20 dmg made me sad.

Shit's just situational. I finished it because I was already well on my way at the time of the RNG nerf. If I could go back and do it over again I'd probably go Amano or Apoc.

[tymora]

Claustrum (5/10)

-2: No MAB, MACC, +damage % for BLM
-2: No perp, +avatar benefits for SMN
-1: For extremely low damage on high defense mobs but then no sane BLMs and SMNs will melee those anyway
-2: For 100 TP, +8MP/refresh that lasts 6 ticks! (+48MP), compare to Spirit Taker
-2: Basically no reason for BLM, SMN to switch roles to the front lines (Think Shadowhand...Now thats a BLM to love.)

+1: For ass-spanking capable BLM, SMN, hitting for 500 crit. on ep mobs can be pretty satisfying when all you could do before was like...~120?
+1: My blm and smn can cap campaign exp easily since it does good on EM and below mobs.
+2: For being the ONLY active person on server with it. Personally I don't care if people lol at me or at the weapon...people all know me for it! It is one thing having a useful relic, it is another to have a relic that is synonymous with your name

In short, useless relic but good for personal e-peen. At least until they buff it and IF they buff it.

[Noneko]

im interested to hear what people have to say about Yoichinoyumi. like if namas arrow is any good and also how strong the added effect is

[Murdock]

i like this topic.

[Jhun]

What Neo said above:

A good pld doesnt need aegis, but a good pld can do amazing things with it.