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    Ultima Hard Mode

    Revamp into resources guide since not anyone can edit the FAQ:

    BG FAQ:
    http://www.bluegartr.com/faqs/ffxiv/...a-extreme-mode

    Nasoo's Guide:
    http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/119...=1#post5986478

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  2. #2
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    Thanks for making this. Here is the meat to save you extra clicks:

    Access
    1. Complete the quest "The Ultimate Weapon." (Main Storyline Quest)
    2. Initiate the quest "The Ultimate Ballad" (Mor Dhona within the new structure (X:22, Y:8), Alys)

    Phase 1
    Skill Set
    1. Melee attack additional effect: KO stack+1 (After 5 stacks, instant KOs the tank; roughly 20s between each stack)
    2. Vulcan Buster: AoE damage centered around Ultima. Additional effect: Knockback.
    3. Slipstream?
    4. Vortex
    5. Geocrush
    Behavior and Patterns
    Garuda appears and covers a large portion of the area in anticipation of slipstream(?). Before she initiates this attack, Ultima uses Vulcan Buster (This has the potential to knock players into Garuda's conal). Ultima uses Garuda's vortex and Titan's geocrush.

    Phase 2
    Skill Set
    1. Radiant Plume
    2. Weight of the land
    Behavior and Patterns
    At the beginning of this phase, Garuda emerges from Ultima's body. Ultima uses Radiant Plume at the edge of the arena and quickly follows with Weight of the land within the Radiant Plume (The center is the safe area). Ultima then inverses this and uses Radiant Plumes from within and Weight of the land at the edges.

    Phase 3
    Skill Set
    1. Eruption
    2. Radiant Plume
    3. Crimson Cyclone
    Behavior and Patterns
    After Titan leaves, this phase occurs. Ultima targets two players with eruption. Ultima uses Radiant plume formations and Crimson Cyclone.

    Phase 4
    Skill Set
    1. Aetheric Boom: AoE knockback
    2. Tethered Spheres
    3. Magitek Bit summons
    4. Tank Purge
    5. Airship drop: AoE DMG
    Behavior and Patterns
    After Ifrit leaves, this phase occurs. After Aetheric Boom, Ultima summons several tethered spheres that gradually approach each other. If these spheres meet, they instantly KO the PT. To prevent this, players must approach one of the spheres to forces a detonation. The damage is roughly 7k/PT members within range of AoE. Detonating one sphere destroys the other half. Shortly after, Ultima spawns Magitek Bit adds at the center of the arena that use laser attacks. Roughly 30s later, Ultima uses Airship Drop 4x. To mitigate this damage, move to the center of the arena. Ultima uses Tank purge.

    Rotation: Tethered Spheres > Lasers > Airship Drop 4x > Tank Purge

    Subsequent spheres have shorter distances. Subsequent lasers spawn at the edge of the arena.

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    The Minstrel's Ballad: Ultima Bane Guide

    The Minstrel's Ballad: Ultima Bane

    At the start of the fight:
    select a MT and OT, Tank need to be rotate after 3 stack (Tank will explode after 5 stack)
    Stack doesn't increase the damage output of the boss.
    Select a Bomb leader (Idea:DPS)

    Spell to look out for: Tank Purge( everyone gather together and healer get ready to AOE heal)

    Primal Phase 1: Garuda
    1.Garuda will appear (stand at the back of the Garuda when it appear, Ultima will cast Vulcan Blast, be careful).
    2. Purple tornado (same as ultima fight) Stand at the edge of the purple gust but not inside, then run into the white gust when the purple gust disappear.
    3. Garuda appears again. (same thing stand at the back of it)

    Primal Phase 2: Titan (totally similar) Repeat x 2
    Move between the center area and the outer area due to the AOE,
    It will cast Tank purge after first round of AOE. Get ready to slack and AOE heal,

    Primal Phase 3: Ifrit (Most pple die here if they aren’t use to it) Repeat x 2.
    Eruption: keep running, if you are being targeted, no dps or heal. JUST RUN AT THE OUTER circle!!! It will cast around 3 to 4 eruption!!! 2 person will be targeted, around a total of 8 eruption.
    Follow by the plumes. Very hard to explain the plume sequence but what you need to look out for is (NEVER stand in the middle). Because right after plume ifrit will dash pass the center. if u are at the outer now and u realise ifirt is coming. Run into the plume after it exploded.


    Thing to note, The AOE always come after tank purge, is advisable for healer to run to side instead of the opposite direction of the tank. this result your heal to be outside range.

    Ultima Phase: (similar laser, howling sound (Airship missile) )
    This phase is where i say select a Bomb leader. Basically a sphere/Bomb will appear and will move into each other. (A Purple line connected with 2 bomb, which mean they are linked, take out 1 out of 2.)
    When it merge, the dmg is around 8k to 9999.. KO
    So to prevent this. everyone needs to run and knock on to the sphere and it will exploded, dmg is shared
    Healer rush to the middle and spam AOE heal.
    1st Bomb phase: 4 bomb appear. knock out 2 out of 4.

    **Another way of doing this, the OT during this period is to take on the bomb while dps continue dps-ing on the ultima. 1 healer is spam cure on the OT while he is taking on the bomb.

    follow by the green laser and green ball. For the ball, knock it together to share dmg.

    After the green laser phase, it will summon the purple laser(Magitek Bits or surken laser) around 8 to 10 in the middle of the arena. DUN LB IT!!! Even if you had a BLM, u need the lb for tank or healer use... Instead WHM use Holy at them, it will stun them for 3 sec, blm flare, brd AOE..

    Melee try to stay out of it, if you aren't a prefect dodger. Let the range take down a few of them before entering. During this fight, howling sound appear on the ground and is going be in the middle of the arena, so everyone run to the outer of the arena (that why melee stay out of it, till the missile drop)

    2nd BOMB phase: There is a total 6 bomb, take out 3 of them. During this phase, the OT at this period of time take out 1 bomb. So DPS take 2 bombs, OT takes 1 but is still advisable for everyone to take out the bomb together.

    again green laser and 2xgreen ball.

    purple laser (Magitek Bits or surken laser) phase: This time it was summon at the outer circle of the arena. Melee start moving into the middle of the arena and range fight it and slowly move into the middle of the arena.
    WHY? howling (Airship Missile) is coming. It will drop at the outer circle (notice on the North, East, West, South Magitek) . Healer get ready to AOE heal

    Be warn, this happen right after the missile is dropped, Green laser, 1 to 3 green ball(knock the ball together, share the dmg).

    **If you think by using monk/drg LB3 you can kill ultima before the 8 bomb phase, do it.

    8 BOMB phase:

    2 way of doing

    1st way:
    By MisterBob
    Have whichever tank is currently not on the boss pop Sentinel/Inner Beat to eat one of the spheres, then have two groups of three eat the others. MT can pop a bunch of CDs and eat the last one. That's all there is to it. They move fast, so be in the right spot before they spawn if you have slow people.

    2nd way:
    During 8 Bomb phase, ask each dps and OT take 1 bomb each. Yes they will die. Make sure your MT and healer is out of range. After all bombs were to explode. 1 healer use lb3.


    (There is always more than 2 way of doing it)

    GOOD LUCK….
    Sorry for not using proper skill name of Ultima, You can look out on them at
    http://www.bluegartr.com/faqs/ffxiv/...a-extreme-mode
    There is certain skill that i might miss out, Point of reference is from a dps view.
    Those indicated with ** are new way that i found out, please try them out as i find them easier in handing the boss

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    Next phase: Green laser, 3 green ball(knock the ball together, share the dmg).
    BOMB phase: total 8 bomb, u got 3 sec, TANK is to LB now! Then all move in. Some time this work, if u happen to miss the LB. (for percaution whm and MT rush into the middle. keep spamming medica)
    IF WIPE whm can LB3. i dunno why sometime whm survived.
    GOOD LUCK….
    You really don't need to be doing any of that crazy luck-based shit.

    Have whichever tank is currently not on the boss pop Sentinel/Inner Beat to eat one of the spheres, then have two groups of three eat the others. MT can pop a bunch of CDs and eat the last one. That's all there is to it. They move fast, so be in the right spot before they spawn if you have slow people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterBob View Post
    You really don't need to be doing any of that crazy luck-based shit.

    Have whichever tank is currently not on the boss pop Sentinel/Inner Beat to eat one of the spheres, then have two groups of three eat the others. MT can pop a bunch of CDs and eat the last one. That's all there is to it. They move fast, so be in the right spot before they spawn if you have slow people.
    You have your point, i paste it at the thread too. But i feel most pple freak out there. i went in with a few party. During that phase they just went knocking on all those sphere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterBob View Post
    You really don't need to be doing any of that crazy luck-based shit.

    Have whichever tank is currently not on the boss pop Sentinel/Inner Beat to eat one of the spheres, then have two groups of three eat the others. MT can pop a bunch of CDs and eat the last one. That's all there is to it. They move fast, so be in the right spot before they spawn if you have slow people.
    Pretty much this. On our win, one of my DPS sacced himself on the last orb because the MT had too little HP to handle an orb. Either way the DPS was raised and we ended up killing Ultima really easily.

  7. #7
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    Updated FAQ since I've tried this battle. Ability patterns appear more clearly and with detail.

    Edit: Still have issues placing Magitek Ray and Diffractive Laser. PC crashed before properly reviewing XIVAPP.

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    As far as I know, the tethered spheres only go up to 4, in the square pattern, and then he begins the Ultima cast a while after, which makes the entire final phase somewhat of a DPS check. I've had a group make it that far while being mostly wiped for a large majority of the time, and he went into casting Ultima with almost 20% HP.

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    Casting ultima I believe is the rage timer, I have seen it at 50% and have seen it at 3%, on the one I finally killed it never used it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDirtyHobo View Post
    As far as I know, the tethered spheres only go up to 4, in the square pattern, and then he begins the Ultima cast a while after, which makes the entire final phase somewhat of a DPS check. I've had a group make it that far while being mostly wiped for a large majority of the time, and he went into casting Ultima with almost 20% HP.
    This seems to be some sort of rage timer? We had this happen once while keeping him in a certain phase to recover from deaths. On the win he used 8 balls which we had one of the tanks eat to help out and he did not even begin to cast ultima

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    Yeah the Ultima cast seems to be a timed thing. We also had couple wins where he didn't start casting it.

    Fight is so much fun!

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    whats the general strategy for the light balls? We had the off tank eating one on the first set, but werent sure what to do with the other. Then when there are three or four Im not sure. Do you have the DDs split and duo explode them so they dont get one shotted?

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    Tank LB does not block the bomb damage, neither does manaward, manawall or hallowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kujah2010 View Post
    Tank LB does not block the bomb damage, neither does manaward, manawall or hallowed.
    Consulted the video recordings: You are wrong, at least on the bolded part.

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    The offtank can eat them all, just cure them in between. The first two sets don't move fast enough to have to sacrifice anyone. For the last set I'm not sure any more if Hallowed Ground works or not, but just have the offtank pop all their buffs and bolt through them.

    Also seems to apply stacks faster as its HP gets lower, but that never really posed a problem.

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    Our group has a warrior with huge HP that would off tank and eat/explode the Booms. If the MT starts the fight we always seemed to hit the Aetheric Boom at the correct time for the Warrior to just eat them. The Boom damage is split between other characters if they are close enough to the explosion. That being said we have a Summoner that would place his pet near the Boom and split it with the tank. On the 3rd set of Booms we had the MT paladin hallowed ground and eat the entire set right after they pop to avoid any damage by them.

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    Are there two Ultima battles or am I reading this wrong? I thought Ultima Extreme was coming in 2.2.

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    I don't know if Ultima Extreme is ever coming, but this is technically Ultima Hard, as one party-pooping FC member pointed out last night right after someone's first win.

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    I've watched at least 3 streams try the same thing and fail (incl Mr Happy), it does not work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    I don't know if Ultima Extreme is ever coming, but this is technically Ultima Hard, as one party-pooping FC member pointed out last night right after someone's first win.
    I think Yoshida mentioned it for 2.2 but I'd have to watch one of the Live letters again.

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