Stun overwriting Breakga?

[Isildur]

Okay so normally i wouldnt make a topic on these forums but due to the abnormal nature of this subject, i had to see if anyone else has heard about this or inform people of it lol. I didnt actually SS the chatlog because i forgot to after the pull died, so fair warning on this.

So last night my LS was doing an attestation run in glacier, the main group was down by the Quadav area, i pulled a group with a Beastender + NIN NM and some other shit....it linked so most of the pull was awake for this crazy incident to occur. What really happened im not so sure, but it might've been Shell Bash that Stunned me or an AoE cause i didnt see it in the chat log......anyways long story short: Scorpion started casting Breakga on me about 10 seconds after i got to camp, most of the pull was still awake, something Stunned me (100% sure it wasnt Wild Rage), Breakga went off on me and petrified everyone like clockwork except for one thing....i was still Stunned when Breakga went off so somehow i didnt get petrified.

Instead i got the "no effect" message that you normally get if Breakga lands after you're already petrified, except i was stunned and not petrified and i was just wondering if anyone else had any history with this or hearing about it cause this is the first time i've ever seen this happening. I assumed that since this is such a weird occurence under some pretty off-the-wall circumstances that it'd be thread worthy.

[Lockecole]

Im like 99% sure the game recognizes stun, (terror?), and petrify all as the same thing. Its why WHM mobs in Dynamis cast Stona on themselves if you stun them, they think they're being petrified. So yeah, essentially if you were already stunned by something, you couldnt be petrified during that duration.

[izembo]

stun and petrify share the same icon spot i believe for disabling a character, so sounds reasonable to me.

[Sci]

Yup, you guys have it correct. A couple of times on Ouryu I've seen Terror followed by Breakga, and the Breakga has no effect. It's actually very much in your favor heh.

[Kilik]

stun and petrify share the same icon spot i believe for disabling a character, so sounds reasonable to me.

Nah stun shares the same icon as bind. Petrify is like a gray skull thing im pretty sure.

[Carbon]

Im like 99% sure the game recognizes stun, (terror?), and petrify all as the same thing. Its why WHM mobs in Dynamis cast Stona on themselves if you stun them, they think they're being petrified. So yeah, essentially if you were already stunned by something, you couldnt be petrified during that duration.

Too bad they fixed this in the last update. :/

[Seditedi]

stun and petrify share the same icon spot i believe for disabling a character, so sounds reasonable to me.

Nah stun shares the same icon as bind. Petrify is like a gray skull thing im pretty sure.

Yea, its a grey skull thing.

[jibini]

I'm 97% sure I've been bound and stunned at the same time though.

I think "icon spot" referred to the position relative to the other icons (like how Utsusemi is always to the left of Protect, and Shell is always to the right of Protect), rather than the actual icon (picture).

[Isildur]

I'm 100% sure I've been bound and stunned at the same time though.

9/10 Aura Statues agree

[Kaylia]

I'm 100% sure I've been bound and stunned at the same time though.

9/10 Aura Statues agree

That's what I was about to say


Is it possible stona remove stun effect then? Or you get no effect? I supose you do or we would know by now >_>

[Delekii]

Stun and petrify dont use the same icon slot, because when you use an updated icon pack, they are different. They may use the same icon in an unmodified game, but so do a lot of things. In the updated pack, terror is a green arrow up thing, petrify is a grey skull and stun is... what? Cant remember. Maybe stun is also the green up arrow..

[Lordwafik]

Stun and petrify dont use the same icon slot, because when you use an updated icon pack, they are different. They may use the same icon in an unmodified game, but so do a lot of things. In the updated pack, terror is a green arrow up thing, petrify is a grey skull and stun is... what? Cant remember. Maybe stun is also the green up arrow..

They don't mean it like that, they mean you can only be stunned or petrified.

[aurik]

One time I was fighting Biast and got petrified. Then he hit me and proc'ed add:terror, which replaced petrification. Thank god, too, because their petrification lasts for a long fucking time.

[Isildur]

One time I was fighting Biast and got petrified. Then he hit me and proc'ed add:terror, which replaced petrification. Thank god, too, because their petrification lasts for a long fucking time.

i see a heirarchy forming...maybe Petrify > Stun > Terror, could be useful info for BLUs in ballista lol

[izembo]

Stun and petrify dont use the same icon slot, because when you use an updated icon pack, they are different. They may use the same icon in an unmodified game, but so do a lot of things. In the updated pack, terror is a green arrow up thing, petrify is a grey skull and stun is... what? Cant remember. Maybe stun is also the green up arrow..

They don't mean it like that, they mean you can only be stunned or petrified.

precisely, not that they use the same icon, they dont, the same slot on the bar, you can only have one of them active.

[Killgannon]

One time I was fighting Biast and got petrified. Then he hit me and proc'ed add:terror, which replaced petrification. Thank god, too, because their petrification lasts for a long fucking time.

i see a heirarchy forming...maybe Petrify > Stun > Terror, could be useful info for BLUs in ballista lol

other way around < not >

Terror > Stun > Petrify

and reading this thread made me remember

"By the power of grey skull..." but anway<.<

edit: too bad theres no way to stun yourself for a short time... to avoid breakga on jailer of faith and dynamis mobs =/ stun potions anyone? lol

[Alistaire]

One time I was fighting Biast and got petrified. Then he hit me and proc'ed add:terror, which replaced petrification. Thank god, too, because their petrification lasts for a long fucking time.

i see a heirarchy forming...maybe Petrify > Stun > Terror, could be useful info for BLUs in ballista lol

How? There's no petrify in ballista, so a blu could take advantage of this to...Terror one of their own people to overwrite a stun? Wouldn't work, and would be dumb if it did. Stun someone then Terror them? Blu physical stuns already overwrite other stuns so no biggie there either.

[Isildur]

it'd be useful info in time, no one knows what Blue Magic is gonna get released....didnt know BLU stun overwrites BLM / DRK stun either, i just assumed knowing when to Terror + Stun would be useful that was all

[Suiram]

Blu physical stuns already overwrite other stuns so no biggie there either.

Forgive me if this was confirmed and posted somewhere obvious, but I'm curious as to the method and circumstances involved in arriving at this assertion. It just feels to me like the kind of thing that might not actually be true that people come to believe (like the martial weapons giving +50% TP thing).